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God vs The Law and no it's not a WWE smack down event

  1. Stump Parrish profile image60
    Stump Parrishposted 7 years ago

    I am often asked why I have a problem with christians in this country and here is another reason. Every six months or so a chistian somewhere gets a little too deep into their bible study classes and start believing that their belief in their god entitles them to ignore the laws the rest of this is subject to.

    Pennsylvania Man Vows to Keep 24-Foot Cross Despite Ordinance Violation


    http://www.foxnews.com/us/2011/02/16/re … ordinance/


    BALDWIN, Pa. –  A 24-foot illuminated cross on a western Pennsylvania man's front lawn is in violation of a local ordinance, but the structure isn't going anywhere, he told FoxNews.com.

    Carl Behr, 45, of Baldwin, Pa., said he was told during a borough council meeting late Tuesday that he needed a permit to build the structure. He plans to apply for such a permit Wednesday or Thursday, he said, but won't be disassembling his cross anytime soon.

    "I'm not removing the cross regardless," Behr said as to whether the permit would likely be approved. "No man is going to tell me about God.//

    From the local WTAE news website you can watch the entire story. This man claims that god told him to build the cross.

    http://www.wtae.com/r/26814102/detail.html

    //Behr said the giant cross is an act of faith, but one neighbor claims it's an act of revenge.

    Next-door neighbor Lisa Fera said she contacted police and the borough because she felt Behr purposely built the large cross facing her home.

    Behr runs a contracting company out of his house, and Fera claims he frequently violated zoning regulations by parking construction vehicles in front of her house. Fera claims every time she went to police to complain, Behr built a new cross, each one bigger than the last.

    "This is a faith thing. I'm trying to spread the Lord's word," said Behr. Why do some feel that spreading the lord's word give them the right to break any law they feel like while doing so?//

    This is not the mentality of all christians I know. I also know that it is these types of people who are causing many of the problems we face as a society. By ignoring it and not trying to put a stop to this kind of crap, the majority of christians are offering their silent approval. This silent approval is offered to a host of violations from signs like this to the murder of doctors to the picketing of funerals.

    1. Cagsil profile image81
      Cagsilposted 7 years agoin reply to this

      A perfect example of a religious individual not knowing their place. lol

    2. profile image0
      Brenda Durhamposted 7 years agoin reply to this

      Well, maybe if the liberals' agendas didn't keep us Christians hopping trying to fight against their assault on the FUNDAMENTALS,  we'd have time and opportunity and energy to fight against those who commit atrocities in the name of Christianity.
      As it is, and as it has progressed up to now, calling out the extreme "Right" onto the carpet has only given the liberal activists more leeway to claim false persecution under the guise of "civil rights".  Notice the whiners have succeeded in twisting our Laws into a maze of hog swill.

      So.....why doesn't the extreme Left (all those gay activists and pro-baby-killing advocates) stop whining about how they're so persecuted?   Then maybe the extremists on the "Right" would be so ashamed of themselves, or so shamed by society, that they'd stop their carp.

    3. graceomalley profile image85
      graceomalleyposted 7 years agoin reply to this

      I am a Christian, and I don't approve. Plenty of Christians don't approve. This guy is clearly using Christianity as an excuse. A gigantic cross does not "spread the message of the gospel." If anything it drives people away. If my neighbor put a gigantic swastika on their lawn it would not make me anymore inclined to become a nazi.

      I agree that civil Christians should not placate rude, obnoxious Christians. I think it is unfortunately like a family dynamic where loud, nutty Uncle Ernie's behavior is tolerated b/c he is family and everyone thinks he will get even worse if someone tries to rein him in. The more no one draws the line with him, the bolder he gets.

      Time to stand up to Uncle Ernie.

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    just_curiousposted 7 years ago

    Hey stump. I agree with your statement about silent approval. Christians need to stop tip toeing around the fanatical behavior and either knock some sense into them, or drum them out of the organization.

    A good first step might be to talk to this guy. What a schmuck.

    1. Pcunix profile image91
      Pcunixposted 7 years agoin reply to this

      Thank you for that. Too many jump to the defense of any idiot who will  bleat the right words.

      1. profile image0
        just_curiousposted 7 years agoin reply to this

        Like I've been telling you you don't know me. I hate the far religious right. Leery of the slightly right too.

        1. Pcunix profile image91
          Pcunixposted 7 years agoin reply to this

          As well you should, but that doesn't mean that your beliefs arent ludicrous.

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            just_curiousposted 7 years agoin reply to this

            lol  I would say the same to you, but that would be unchristian

            1. Pcunix profile image91
              Pcunixposted 7 years agoin reply to this

              And untrue.

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                just_curiousposted 7 years agoin reply to this

                Ok, we really have to stop this back and forth. Once again, we're like a couple of women. No, what you said is not true. You are wrong. End of discussion for me. I will once again bow, be the bigger 'man' and let you have the last word.

                Please proceed.

                1. Cagsil profile image81
                  Cagsilposted 7 years agoin reply to this

                  lol

            2. Mikel G Roberts profile image79
              Mikel G Robertsposted 7 years agoin reply to this

              I'll say it.

              Pcunix's beliefs are unprovable, unfounded, as improbable as an invisible pink unicorn and very very similar to the guy who has an illuminated cross on his front lawn... Pcunix just comes from the opposite extreme.

              My opinion.

              1. Cagsil profile image81
                Cagsilposted 7 years agoin reply to this

                Since it's an opinion and not supported by facts, then apparently it cannot be true. tongue

                1. Mikel G Roberts profile image79
                  Mikel G Robertsposted 7 years agoin reply to this

                  Deleted

                  1. Cagsil profile image81
                    Cagsilposted 7 years agoin reply to this

                    You're the one saying my post was an opinion. I didn't. So please. hmm

                    Too bad you don't know the difference between opinion and fact. hmm

              2. profile image0
                just_curiousposted 7 years agoin reply to this

                Hey. You're a smart guy. Good post.

                1. Pcunix profile image91
                  Pcunixposted 7 years agoin reply to this

                  Clap, clap, applause, applause. As usual. You are so predictable.

                  1. profile image0
                    just_curiousposted 7 years agoin reply to this

                    I try to be nice. If that's predictable, sue me. I'd be nice to you, if you were nice. smile

              3. Pcunix profile image91
                Pcunixposted 7 years agoin reply to this

                Another one unable to refute the proof without magic.

                1. profile image0
                  just_curiousposted 7 years agoin reply to this

                  There is no proof.  Give it up. Have fun. You only live once pcunix.

                  1. Pcunix profile image91
                    Pcunixposted 7 years agoin reply to this

                    Oh, how quickly they forget..

                    Another well known characteristic of theists:  they forget the battles they already lost.

  3. superwags profile image78
    superwagsposted 7 years ago

    Land of the free, home of the brave.... What the hell is up with the USA?!

    Why not climb on board with the rest of the western world?

  4. stilljustwonderin profile image59
    stilljustwonderinposted 7 years ago

    The Bible also says that we are to also follow man's law.  By not following the ordinances, they are breaking man's law.  Maybe they should be reminded.

 
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