Sign of Jonah by Jesus; the essence was not the time

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   paarsurreyposted 13 years ago

   The essence was that Jonah was a truthful messenger prophet like Jesus was; the Creator-God saved Jonah so would the Creator-God Allah YHWH save Jesus from the cursed death on Cross. If Jesus was a truthful prophet, he would not and must not be killed on the Cross; like Jonah was not killed in the belly of the fish.
   
   If Jesus was killed on the Cross he would be a false prophet in terms of Torah.
   
   Jesus survived death on Cross; that makes him a truthful prophet messenger of the Creator-God.

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      Dave Mathewsposted 13 years agoin reply to this

      Jonah was a prophetic messenger of God who spent 3 days and 3 nights in the belly of a whale, before God freed him
      
      Jesus is the son of God who spent 3 days in the grave and then was raised by God.

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      Cagsilposted 13 years agoin reply to this

      Story only, more like myth.

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      SirDentposted 13 years agoin reply to this

      The Bible never states that Jonah remained alive in the belly of the fish.  You should at least get a few facts straight before going off on a topic.
      
      Do you think you could survive in the belly of a whale?  Even the pressure alone would kill a man when the whale went to the bottom of the ocean.

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         paarsurreyposted 13 years agoin reply to this

         Please quote from the OT where it states that Jonah was dead in the belly of the fish.

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            SirDentposted 13 years agoin reply to this

            
            
            Please quote from the Old Testament that he remained alive in the belly of the fish.

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               DoubleScorpionposted 13 years agoin reply to this

               In Jonah Chapter 2: Jonah prayed to the Lord while in the fish and was vomited out at the end of that chapter after the prayer.
               
               This would imply he was alive and well during this time.

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                  SirDentposted 13 years agoin reply to this

                  
                  
                  Not neccesarily alive.  Remember the rich man and LAzarus that Jesus spoke about?  The rich man spoke with Abraham.  Abraham heard the man and talked with him.

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      CollBposted 13 years agoin reply to this

      Both Jesus and Jonah are truthful prophets.  Jonah survived living in the fish and came out praising God's name.  Jesus rose from the dead and proves he is the Son of God.  Both are incredible figures in the Bible and why many Christians believe in God and Jesus. 
      
      Yes, I agree both were truthful prophets who have shown the will of God and His mighty works.

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         paarsurreyposted 13 years agoin reply to this

         Jesus gave example of Jonah; the same process could not make Jonah a god or son of god; why give example of Jonah then?

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         SirDentposted 13 years agoin reply to this

         
         
         Both came out alive.  If they are comparable, both had to have died.  As I stated before, a man cannot live after being eaten by a fish.  God can raise him from the dead, just as Jesus rose from the dead.
         
         
         
         I have heard  that Jonah was the boy who Elijah raised from the dead in the Old Testament.  The son of the Shumanite woman.  I haven't really searched it out to find out for sure.

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            Disappearingheadposted 13 years agoin reply to this

            A man cannot live if he is thrown into a fiery furnace ala the three amigos in Babylon. However God preserved them from the flames.
            
            Similarly God preserved Jonah from death in the belly of the fishy whale, hence Jonah was able to pray.
            
            Jesus draws the parallel not because of the death component but because both would be hidden for three days and come out alive. Jesus was dead in the tomb, Jonah was considered by observers to be dead in the belly.
            
            Simples.

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               paarsurreyposted 13 years agoin reply to this

               Jesus was not dead in the tomb, he was alive there and was under treatment of his friends; a lot of ointments made from a huge amount of aloe and myrrh were put on his wounds; that is why his injured body was wrapped in the wrappings mentioned in the Bible. They hurriedly took him to the tomb for the treatment.
               
               What was the need of a hurry if he was already dead?

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               SirDentposted 13 years agoin reply to this

               True but they saw one like the Son of Man in the fire with the three. 
               
               
               
               Was the Son of Man in the belly of the whale with Jonah?  Nothing in scripture says so. 
               
               Just for clarification, God can hear those who cry out to Him from the grave also.

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   paarsurreyposted 13 years ago

   Let it be noted that though Christians believe that Jesus (peace be on him) after his arrest through the betrayal by Judas Iscariot, and crucifixion -- and resurrection -- went to heaven, yet, from the Holy Bible, it appears that this belief of theirs is altogether wrong. Matthew (chapter 12, verse 40) says that just as Jonah was three days and three nights in the belly of the fish, so the Son of Man shall be three days and three nights in the bowels of the earth.
   
   Now it is clear that Jonah did not die in the belly of the fish; the utmost that happened was that he was in a swoon or a fit of fainting. The holy books of God bear witness that Jonah, by the grace of God, remained alive in the belly of the fish, and came out alive; and his people ultimately accepted him.
   
   If then Jesus (on whom be peace) had died in the belly of the 'fish', what resemblance could there be between a dead man and the one who was alive, and how could a living one be compared with one dead? The truth rather is, that as Jesus was a true prophet and as he knew that God, whose beloved he was, would save him from an accursed death, he made a prophecy in the form of a parable, revealed to him by God, in which he hinted that he would not die on the Cross, nor would he give up the ghost on the accursed wood; on the contrary, like the prophet Jonah, he would only pass through a state of swoon.
   
   In the parable he had also hinted that he would come out of the bowels of the earth and would then join the people and, like Jonah, would be honoured by them. So this prophecy too was fulfilled; for Jesus, coming out of the bowels of the earth, went to his tribes who lived in the eastern countries, Kashmir and Tibet, etc. viz. the ten tribes of the Israelites who 721 years1 before Jesus, had been taken prisoner from Samaria by Shalmaneser, King of Assur, and had been taken away by him. Ultimately, these tribes came to India and settled in various parts of that country. Jesus at all events must have made this journey; for the divine object underlying his advent was that he should meet the lost Jews who had settled in different parts of India; the reason being that these in fact were the lost sheep of Israel who had given up even their ancestral faith in these countries, and most of whom had adopted Buddhism, relapsing, gradually into idolatry.
   
   Dr. Bernier, on the authority of a number of learned people, states in his Travels that the Kashmiris in reality are Jews who in the time of the dispersal in the days of the King of Assur had migrated to this country.
   
   http://www.alislam.org/library/books/je … a/ch1.html

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