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   Jeramiposted 12 years ago

   I just had a thought and would like to know what others think.
   
     It is much easier or us to see those faults that other people have.
     It also seems that we can see them much easier and quicker when we share that trait, though it is certainly to a lesser degree (HA).
   
     Now to the point  ...   When/IF  we recognize THOSE faults exibited from others, are we somehow immediately infected by them in some fashion and/or degree?
   
       I know,  silly question,   posted it anyway....
   Now I gotta go take care of todays business.   Later.

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      kessposted 12 years agoin reply to this

      ok..
      It always easy to see the fault that is in your own self in another.
      
      So therfore if you are able also to find a way to excuse that one then in so doing you also able excuse your ownself.
      
      Thereby you can remain perfect, free from all sin.

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   SEEKER OF TRUTH57posted 12 years ago

   Kess, i`ve admired some of your imputs.But if you can nullify a fault in another that is a sin,how can forgiving another the sin cleanse the sin from you? Doesn`t work that way.

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      Druid Dudeposted 12 years agoin reply to this

      Forgive my trespasses, as I have forgiven others trespasses against me. Sounds pretty cut and dried.

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         SEEKER OF TRUTH57posted 12 years agoin reply to this

         Druide,we do not have the power to cleanse our own sin.We may forgive another for hurt against us but the ultimate and final forgiveness comes from God.He must forgive.

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   knolyourselfposted 12 years ago

   "When/IF  we recognize THOSE faults exibited from others, are we somehow immediately infected by them in some fashion and/or degree?"
   As I remember it, I hide my faults from myself so they are unconscious. When I see them in others I don't like them, 'cause it reminds me of my hidden ugly self.

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      Jefacityposted 12 years agoin reply to this

      if you hide something aren't you letting it control you as opposed to controlling it?

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   Jeramiposted 12 years ago

   Thank you SEEKER OF TRUTH57  kess and  knolyourself and Druid Dude !   thoughtful answers.
   
     The second part of the question.  What if we do not see "their" faults within ourselves and though we may not run out and commit that fault ourselves ...   is it posible that somehow; are we affected/infected when we become aware of it in someone that we have come into contact.? 
   
      I know !  this is far fetched ...   But how do we know how much we have been affected by it.

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      Brenda Durhamposted 12 years agoin reply to this

      I don't understand.  Are you asking if faults are contagious?

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         Jeramiposted 12 years agoin reply to this

         just another ott the cuf answer.
         
            I once heard that regardless of what your thoughts are;
         If Ya sit in a tatoo parloe long enough you will come out with a tatoo.
         
            Another example ...  about 35 years ago I went into a topless bar a couple of times ... didn't do anything wrong ... but was forever changed for having the experience.
         Not saying that is a fault or not  just saying.
          
            I think that sometimes we are forever changed (somehow) by simply knowing that some people do the things that they do.
         
            Had we not known that some other people do the things that they do   ...   we wouldn't have conceived doing it ourselves.   Don't mean that we will ....   just saying ????

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         SEEKER OF TRUTH57posted 12 years agoin reply to this

         Miss Brenda, I do not think faults are contagious. Therefore we could blame our sins on someone else. This , in the eyes of God can`t happen, as each individual will give account to God respectively. Bless you Miss Brenda . I`m sure you didn`t have opportunity to ponder the question.

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            Jeramiposted 12 years agoin reply to this

            Would you say that one rotten apple at the bottom of the barrel is contagious?

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            Brenda Durhamposted 12 years agoin reply to this

            I agree.

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      kessposted 12 years agoin reply to this

      No Jerami....
      
      You can only recognise that which is yourself in another...
      
      If it not a fault in you, you are unable to see it as a fault in another.
      
      
      Remember it is not that which is without (in another) that defiles, it is that which is within.
      
      Sin is not contagious ...
      Sin cannot be transferred from one to another.
      
      A man cannot sin unless that which he allows, he believes to be sin...
      
      And as long as you create sin for another you also create it for yourself....
      
      it is possible that the one youve created sin for maybe walking in freedom from the sin by His Faith.. while you remain bound.

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         Jeramiposted 12 years agoin reply to this

         I wasn't speaking about "Sins" of another.
           How did "Fault" suddenly turn into "sins"
         
            Fault or weakness, shortcomings etc ...  Are these sins ?
         
            
            suddenly the meaning of my question has been infected ???
         
            Something happened to it.
         
            And I was only asking a question ...  NOT making an accertion.

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            kessposted 12 years agoin reply to this

            Jerami, I can use five different terms and still not deviate from the point.
            
            Every single despicable sinful Action that you can even think another is already present in you...
            
            The way of Life which fulfills the purposes of God is this....
            
            How can you use this nature of Sin unto Life for yourself and others instead of death. Remembering all have sinned as intended by the father.
            
            So as long as you look at actions(works) to determine a person's righteousness...You operate by the sinful nature and exclude yourself from the way of Life....
            
            For no man shall boast of Works.
            
            Life has always been and still is in "How you think"  (Faith) and not what you do(works)....
            
            For where there is the right thinking there can be absolutely no wrong action....

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   zampanoposted 12 years ago

   Let the one who has never sinned throw the first stone...

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   aka-djposted 12 years ago

   There is no such thing as cotanimation!

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   Jeramiposted 12 years ago

   Not to seem arguementive just expressing it a different way.
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   kess wrote
   Jerami, I can use five different terms and still not deviate from the point.
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   me   ....   And with each different term used the origional message is preceived to have taken on a different intent. Ever so slightly.
   
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   kess  wrote   ..  Every single despicable sinful Action that you can even think another is already present in you...
   
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      Yes ,  the fact that we have thought of it is in itself indication that it is present within us.  OR  ..             Does our becoming aware that that "fault" exists manifest its presence within us?  Just a question.
   
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   kess  wrote   ..
   The way of Life which fulfills the purposes of God is this....
   
   How can you use this nature of Sin unto Life for yourself and others instead of death. Remembering all have sinned as intended by the father.
   
   So as long as you look at actions(works) to determine a person's righteousness...You operate by the sinful nature and exclude yourself from the way of Life....
   
   For no man shall boast of Works.
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   Me
   I am not sure as to your intended message here.  There a number of different terms I could use which would bring forth as many different understandings from your statement.
      I do all that I can to NOT judge that which I perceive  as weaknesses in others upon them, but use them for self examination that I might become more knowledgeable of myself.
   
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   kess  wrote   ..
   Life has always been and still is in "How you think"  (Faith) and not what you do(works)....
   
   For where there is the right thinking there can be absolutely no wrong action....
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     Very true ...  It would seem that each and every one of us are a universe in and of ourselves. Truth (to a degree) seems to have been created differently within each universe, and yet each share in common a higher set of laws.
      Confusion seems to be created when two worlds collide.

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   Jefacityposted 12 years ago

   "You see the mote which is in your brother's eye; but you do not see the beam which is in your own eye. When you cast out the beam from your own eye, then you will see (clearly) to cast out the mote from your brother's eye." -Gospel of Thomas
   
   Thought it applied quite nicely here.
   
   Maybe, you're only influenced if your ego has a strong attachment to it.

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