what is wrong in teaching "do unto others like unto yourself?"

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   davidkalugeposted 14 years ago

   Someone, maybe many others, said that the idea of "live and lets live" is cultic because it is wrong. The person, from her hub, I think she is a Christain. She said is wrong because it means to stop preaching the truth of the bible. I just don't get it.

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      DoubleScorpionposted 14 years agoin reply to this

      I would have to say...Jesus said Love your neighbor as yourself...that sounds alot like "do unto others" at least it does to me.

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      mohitmisraposted 14 years agoin reply to this

      Double Scorpion has already answered your question and so have you in your title.Many from all religions do not understand their religion and prophet properly

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      Cristen Rodgersposted 14 years agoin reply to this

      I think that a person who thinks 'live and let live' is cultic is really just living in fear thinking that there is only 'one right' and 'one wrong'.  They don't mean to be that way they are just victims to their environments....I have a lot of family who believe that way and it just takes a lot of time and understanding to help them see differently

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      kimberlyslyricsposted 14 years agoin reply to this

      It doesn't matter what she thinks
      
      every morning I ask that people treat me today as I treated them yesterday, same kinda
      
      nothing wrong with wanting to do good to other people, at the end of the day, how could that hurt?

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   earnestshubposted 14 years ago

   I have a problem with this.
   What if someone is psychotic or has some other mental disease?
   
   Doing "unto others" may include some pretty nasty "Like unto yourself" and could get warped well out of shape.
   
   Or what if that doing unto self meant being delusional such as with religion?

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      Jeramiposted 14 years agoin reply to this

      I have wanted to post something similar to what you just said ....     to you more than a couple of times.
      
          Happy to hear you say it.

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         earnestshubposted 14 years agoin reply to this

         
         Nice!

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            Jeramiposted 14 years agoin reply to this

            Ya made me smile some more
            
            
            
               Thanks

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      Greek Oneposted 14 years agoin reply to this

      obviously the Bible does not mean this phrase to apply to those who do not love themselves.....
      
      or to Australians

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      mohitmisraposted 14 years agoin reply to this

      Doing "unto others" may include some pretty nasty "Like unto yourself" and could get warped well out of shape.
      
      There are two side to a coin or as you know Ying-Yang, you are looking at the negative aspect while the positive aspect exists as well .
      So please dont squash it totally
      
      Spiritual words can be taken in different contexts.

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         Beelzedadposted 14 years agoin reply to this

         Wouldn't that then make them utterly useless for any form of effective communication or understanding between people?

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            mohitmisraposted 14 years agoin reply to this

            In the way you are thinking you are correct, but this is spirituality we are talking about or poetry or parables,they have depth and need to be interpreted properly. Here again I am sure you can see there are atheists, agnostics and believers.
            Where God or spirituality is concerned words are limited ,it all depends on the human consciousness level.
            
            The human is divided into different categories or consciouses or awareness level and each believes, thinks differently .The Holy Vedas puts the Human species  as a couple of thousand as there are many such categories in us.
            Each will interpret differently .

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               Beelzedadposted 14 years agoin reply to this

               Isn't that a contradiction? If spiritual words are useless in understanding, how can anyone properly interpret them and who is to say what is the correct interpretation? Would that be you?
               
               
               
               That sounds like a lot of baloney only meant to confuse and obfuscate any intention of meaning.
               
               
               
               Again, how useful is that?

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                  Cristen Rodgersposted 14 years agoin reply to this

                  Your point is valid; more valid than most would care to admit.  The problem is the communication lexis, not the material involved.  Because we can share things such as thoughts, we can precisely validate the accuracy of its communication.  However, not all things originate in thought, some originate in feeling or experience.  Because we cannot 'share' feelings or experiences, we must rely on the limited vocabulary available to us.  This will always present problems.  I must give you credit though because your point is and always will be valid.

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                  mohitmisraposted 14 years agoin reply to this

                  The ying yang yang is inevitable in this dimension as humans.
                  Only after enlightenment can one understood the context properly, God is a personal experience.
                  There are many consciouses levels, each will interpret differently and then many will understand very clearly.
                  
                  I repeat explain chi or prana what yogis, mystics martial artists  meaning humans have know for a very long time.Look it up please.

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                     Beelzedadposted 14 years agoin reply to this

                     Sorry, I can't see anything there but more baloney.

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                  mohitmisraposted 14 years agoin reply to this

                  Yes and there are others, God is not limited to few humans.
                  
                  Truth .

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            Cristen Rodgersposted 14 years agoin reply to this

            It's a concept being spoken, not a commandment...regardless of which religion it comes from.  Concepts don't break down in scientific form as easily and will always appear to have some inconsistencies because they are not meant to be obeyed so much as just meant to spark a new way of seeing things.....

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               mohitmisraposted 14 years agoin reply to this

               beautiful.

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               Beelzedadposted 14 years agoin reply to this

               Are those the kind of spiritual words referred, in which the context exhibits ineffective communication and understanding?
               
               It worked.

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                  Cristen Rodgersposted 14 years agoin reply to this

                  In answer to your question, no.  If you do not understand the concept, I will reword it into a commandment.  It may be that you respond better to external than internal regulation since you desire communication that lacks the probability of misunderstandings.....It means that we should consider the experiences of all beings as important as we do our own.  Considering this, we should attempt to effect a positive experience on our surroundings.  Undoubtedly, you will find error in this statement as well since the idea of 'positive' is subjective.  It might be helpful to note, however, that such subjectivity and inconsistency can be found in all aspects of communication so long as the subjects involved are imperfect.

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         Cristen Rodgersposted 14 years agoin reply to this

         I agree.  Logic is a friend to those who search for truth....until it betrays its original intent.

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      mecheilposted 14 years agoin reply to this

      you never fail to amaze me earnest. every time you are able to see the negative side of a supposedly positive passage, i can't help but think that you really are a funny guy.

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   SandyMcCollumposted 14 years ago

   If everyone takes an eye for an eye, everyone would be blind.

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   kessposted 14 years ago

   "Love your neighbor as yourself"
   "Do unto other as you would like them to do unto you"
   
   
   These are the one perfect thought.....
   
   Who so ever criticizes it excludes themselves from Life.
   
   Careful now that in trying to be wise you become something else......

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   Greek Oneposted 14 years ago

   i like to have sexual relations with others, yet if i try to do that unto myself, they tell me it's a sin
   
   

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   thisisoliposted 14 years ago

   Do unto others as you would havethem do unto you works right up until the point you look at the self harming statistics in some countries

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   paarsurreyposted 14 years ago

   what is wrong in teaching "do unto others like unto yourself?
   
   There is nothing wrong with it; but inspite of its being useful people do evil to others.

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   brimancandyposted 14 years ago

   My favorite responce to this was made by a comedian.
   
   I would do onto others as I do onto myself, but I don't think people would like it too much when I tried to jerk them off! hey, I'm just trying to spread the love! I guess I took do onto others as you do onto yourself a little to seriously!! LOL!!!

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   knolyourselfposted 14 years ago

   ""do unto others like unto yourself?"
   Wouldn't much care for someone suicidal doing onto me as them-self.

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      Jefacityposted 14 years agoin reply to this

      isn't it more for YOU to treat others like how YOU would like to be treated. Lets say you enjoy living, so you would be in support of all those who wish to live and don't commit suicide.

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    SEEKER OF TRUTH57posted 14 years ago

    I`ve spent two days working on a friends car for free.I have refused payment in light of friendship.That is doing unto others as you hope they would do unto you.

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    Jefacityposted 14 years ago

    I treat others how I'd like to be treated. I show them respect and courtesy. I don't get angry or impatient. See others as your self reflected in a mirror

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       paarsurreyposted 14 years agoin reply to this

       It is good

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    knolyourselfposted 14 years ago

    Once had a drill Sergeant who had us march to chow at six am on Sunday morning screaming the march songs as loud as we could. His reason was since he had to be up everyone else should also.

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    earnestshubposted 14 years ago

    How does one know how others want to be treated? The obvious way is to ask them, but this cannot be done if one assumes they have not reached a particular and relevant understanding.
    
    The ethic of reciprocity was present in certain forms in the philosophies of ancient Babylon, Egypt, Persia, India, Greece, Judea, and China
    
    George Bernard Shaw:
    
    "Do not do unto others as you would that they should do unto you. Their tastes may be different"

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    knolyourselfposted 14 years ago

    "Do not do unto others as you would that they should do unto you. Their tastes may be different"
    Beautiful. Nicely sums up the point I was trying to make.

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       earnestshubposted 14 years agoin reply to this

       I have another way of looking at this.
       
       I would love a new Porsche 911.
       
       So I should buy one each for the 5 year old twin girls, I know if I asked them, they would be keen, but the outcome would be another matter.

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    knolyourselfposted 14 years ago

    "but the outcome would be another matter."
    Yes but you would have to Porsches to use for eleven years.

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       earnestshubposted 14 years agoin reply to this

       You make a good point.
       The biggest problem would be stopping the dreaded Asha (half hour older than her sister) who would probably talk her way in to a driving license by time she's 7.
       
       

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    knolyourselfposted 14 years ago

    "driving license by time she's 7".
    So is she going to be smarter than you and are you going to have your hands full?

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       earnestshubposted 14 years agoin reply to this

       We have our hands full already!
       
       She carries the sword of logos, and is not afraid to use it.
       
       Logical to the bone this one!

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    davidkalugeposted 14 years ago

    I think laws are made based on acceptable moral standards. Secondly, laws are not made for insane people so anyone that thinks of killing others because he wants others to kill him must be insane. It is not normal. Therefore, " do unto others... " is the golden rule which virtually all religious founders thought. Those that oppose it as cultic claim it will stop them from preaching and converting people to their. That was the situation I asked the question not when insanity is involved or out of order.

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