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what is wrong in teaching "do unto others like unto yourself?"

  1. davidkaluge profile image73
    davidkalugeposted 6 years ago

    Someone, maybe many others, said that the idea of "live and lets live" is cultic because it is wrong. The person, from her hub, I think she is a Christain. She said is wrong because it means to stop preaching the truth of the bible. I just don't get it.

    1. DoubleScorpion profile image85
      DoubleScorpionposted 6 years agoin reply to this

      I would have to say...Jesus said Love your neighbor as yourself...that sounds alot like "do unto others" at least it does to me.

    2. mohitmisra profile image55
      mohitmisraposted 6 years agoin reply to this

      Double Scorpion has already answered your question and so have you in your title.Many from all religions do not understand their religion and prophet properly

    3. Cristen Rodgers profile image81
      Cristen Rodgersposted 6 years agoin reply to this

      I think that a person who thinks 'live and let live' is cultic is really just living in fear thinking that there is only 'one right' and 'one wrong'.  They don't mean to be that way they are just victims to their environments....I have a lot of family who believe that way and it just takes a lot of time and understanding to help them see differently smile

    4. profile image0
      kimberlyslyricsposted 6 years agoin reply to this

      It doesn't matter what she thinks

      every morning I ask that people treat me today as I treated them yesterday, same kinda

      nothing wrong with wanting to do good to other people, at the end of the day, how could that hurt?

  2. earnestshub profile image87
    earnestshubposted 6 years ago

    I have a problem with this.
    What if someone is psychotic or has some other mental disease?

    Doing "unto others" may include some pretty nasty "Like unto yourself" and could get warped well out of shape.

    Or what if that doing unto self meant being delusional such as with religion?

    1. Jerami profile image72
      Jeramiposted 6 years agoin reply to this

      I have wanted to post something similar to what you just said ....     to you more than a couple of times.

          Happy to hear you say it.

      1. earnestshub profile image87
        earnestshubposted 6 years agoin reply to this

        lol lol lol
        Nice! lol lol lol

        1. Jerami profile image72
          Jeramiposted 6 years agoin reply to this

          Ya made me smile some more



             Thanks

    2. Greek One profile image76
      Greek Oneposted 6 years agoin reply to this

      obviously the Bible does not mean this phrase to apply to those who do not love themselves.....

      or to Australians

    3. mohitmisra profile image55
      mohitmisraposted 6 years agoin reply to this

      Doing "unto others" may include some pretty nasty "Like unto yourself" and could get warped well out of shape.

      There are two side to a coin or as you know Ying-Yang, you are looking at the negative aspect while the positive aspect exists as well .
      So please dont squash it totally smile

      Spiritual words can be taken in different contexts.

      1. Beelzedad profile image58
        Beelzedadposted 6 years agoin reply to this

        Wouldn't that then make them utterly useless for any form of effective communication or understanding between people? smile

        1. mohitmisra profile image55
          mohitmisraposted 6 years agoin reply to this

          In the way you are thinking you are correct, but this is spirituality we are talking about or poetry or parables,they have depth and need to be interpreted properly. Here again I am sure you can see there are atheists, agnostics and believers.
          Where God or spirituality is concerned words are limited ,it all depends on the human consciousness level.

          The human is divided into different categories or consciouses or awareness level and each believes, thinks differently .The Holy Vedas puts the Human species  as a couple of thousand as there are many such categories in us.
          Each will interpret differently .

          1. Beelzedad profile image58
            Beelzedadposted 6 years agoin reply to this

            Isn't that a contradiction? If spiritual words are useless in understanding, how can anyone properly interpret them and who is to say what is the correct interpretation? Would that be you?



            That sounds like a lot of baloney only meant to confuse and obfuscate any intention of meaning.



            Again, how useful is that? smile

            1. Cristen Rodgers profile image81
              Cristen Rodgersposted 6 years agoin reply to this

              Your point is valid; more valid than most would care to admit.  The problem is the communication lexis, not the material involved.  Because we can share things such as thoughts, we can precisely validate the accuracy of its communication.  However, not all things originate in thought, some originate in feeling or experience.  Because we cannot 'share' feelings or experiences, we must rely on the limited vocabulary available to us.  This will always present problems.  I must give you credit though because your point is and always will be valid.

            2. mohitmisra profile image55
              mohitmisraposted 6 years agoin reply to this

              The ying yang yang is inevitable in this dimension as humans.
              Only after enlightenment can one understood the context properly, God is a personal experience.
              There are many consciouses levels, each will interpret differently and then many will understand very clearly.

              I repeat explain chi or prana what yogis, mystics martial artists  meaning humans have know for a very long time.Look it up please.

              1. Beelzedad profile image58
                Beelzedadposted 6 years agoin reply to this

                Sorry, I can't see anything there but more baloney. smile

            3. mohitmisra profile image55
              mohitmisraposted 6 years agoin reply to this

              Yes and there are others, God is not limited to few humans.

              Truth .

        2. Cristen Rodgers profile image81
          Cristen Rodgersposted 6 years agoin reply to this

          It's a concept being spoken, not a commandment...regardless of which religion it comes from.  Concepts don't break down in scientific form as easily and will always appear to have some inconsistencies because they are not meant to be obeyed so much as just meant to spark a new way of seeing things.....

          1. mohitmisra profile image55
            mohitmisraposted 6 years agoin reply to this

            beautiful.

          2. Beelzedad profile image58
            Beelzedadposted 6 years agoin reply to this

            Are those the kind of spiritual words referred, in which the context exhibits ineffective communication and understanding?

            It worked. smile

            1. Cristen Rodgers profile image81
              Cristen Rodgersposted 6 years agoin reply to this

              In answer to your question, no.  If you do not understand the concept, I will reword it into a commandment.  It may be that you respond better to external than internal regulation since you desire communication that lacks the probability of misunderstandings.....It means that we should consider the experiences of all beings as important as we do our own.  Considering this, we should attempt to effect a positive experience on our surroundings.  Undoubtedly, you will find error in this statement as well since the idea of 'positive' is subjective.  It might be helpful to note, however, that such subjectivity and inconsistency can be found in all aspects of communication so long as the subjects involved are imperfect.

      2. Cristen Rodgers profile image81
        Cristen Rodgersposted 6 years agoin reply to this

        I agree.  Logic is a friend to those who search for truth....until it betrays its original intent.

    4. mecheil profile image60
      mecheilposted 6 years agoin reply to this

      you never fail to amaze me earnest. every time you are able to see the negative side of a supposedly positive passage, i can't help but think that you really are a funny guy.

  3. SandyMcCollum profile image71
    SandyMcCollumposted 6 years ago

    If everyone takes an eye for an eye, everyone would be blind.

  4. kess profile image60
    kessposted 6 years ago

    "Love your neighbor as yourself"
    "Do unto other as you would like them to do unto you"


    These are the one perfect thought.....

    Who so ever criticizes it excludes themselves from Life.

    Careful now that in trying to be wise you become something else......

  5. Greek One profile image76
    Greek Oneposted 6 years ago

    i like to have sexual relations with others, yet if i try to do that unto myself, they tell me it's a sin

    sad

  6. thisisoli profile image54
    thisisoliposted 6 years ago

    Do unto others as you would havethem do unto you works right up until the point you look at the self harming statistics in some countries tongue

  7. profile image70
    paarsurreyposted 6 years ago

    what is wrong in teaching "do unto others like unto yourself?

    There is nothing wrong with it; but inspite of its being useful people do evil to others.

  8. brimancandy profile image83
    brimancandyposted 6 years ago

    My favorite responce to this was made by a comedian.

    I would do onto others as I do onto myself, but I don't think people would like it too much when I tried to jerk them off! hey, I'm just trying to spread the love! I guess I took do onto others as you do onto yourself a little to seriously!! LOL!!!

  9. knolyourself profile image60
    knolyourselfposted 6 years ago

    ""do unto others like unto yourself?"
    Wouldn't much care for someone suicidal doing onto me as them-self.

    1. Jefacity profile image57
      Jefacityposted 6 years agoin reply to this

      isn't it more for YOU to treat others like how YOU would like to be treated. Lets say you enjoy living, so you would be in support of all those who wish to live and don't commit suicide.

  10. profile image58
    SEEKER OF TRUTH57posted 6 years ago

    I`ve spent two days working on a friends car for free.I have refused payment in light of friendship.That is doing unto others as you hope they would do unto you.

  11. Jefacity profile image57
    Jefacityposted 6 years ago

    I treat others how I'd like to be treated. I show them respect and courtesy. I don't get angry or impatient. See others as your self reflected in a mirror

    1. profile image70
      paarsurreyposted 6 years agoin reply to this

      It is good

  12. knolyourself profile image60
    knolyourselfposted 6 years ago

    Once had a drill Sergeant who had us march to chow at six am on Sunday morning screaming the march songs as loud as we could. His reason was since he had to be up everyone else should also.

  13. earnestshub profile image87
    earnestshubposted 6 years ago

    How does one know how others want to be treated? The obvious way is to ask them, but this cannot be done if one assumes they have not reached a particular and relevant understanding.

    The ethic of reciprocity was present in certain forms in the philosophies of ancient Babylon, Egypt, Persia, India, Greece, Judea, and China

    George Bernard Shaw:

    "Do not do unto others as you would that they should do unto you. Their tastes may be different"

  14. knolyourself profile image60
    knolyourselfposted 6 years ago

    "Do not do unto others as you would that they should do unto you. Their tastes may be different"
    Beautiful. Nicely sums up the point I was trying to make.

    1. earnestshub profile image87
      earnestshubposted 6 years agoin reply to this

      I have another way of looking at this.

      I would love a new Porsche 911.

      So I should buy one each for the 5 year old twin girls, I know if I asked them, they would be keen, but the outcome would be another matter. smile

  15. knolyourself profile image60
    knolyourselfposted 6 years ago

    "but the outcome would be another matter."
    Yes but you would have to Porsches to use for eleven years.

    1. earnestshub profile image87
      earnestshubposted 6 years agoin reply to this

      You make a good point.
      The biggest problem would be stopping the dreaded Asha (half hour older than her sister) who would probably talk her way in to a driving license by time she's 7.

      smile

  16. knolyourself profile image60
    knolyourselfposted 6 years ago

    "driving license by time she's 7".
    So is she going to be smarter than you and are you going to have your hands full?

    1. earnestshub profile image87
      earnestshubposted 6 years agoin reply to this

      We have our hands full already! lol

      She carries the sword of logos, and is not afraid to use it.

      Logical to the bone this one!

  17. davidkaluge profile image73
    davidkalugeposted 6 years ago

    I think laws are made based on acceptable moral standards. Secondly, laws are not made for insane people so anyone that thinks of killing others because he wants others to kill him must be insane. It is not normal. Therefore, " do unto others... " is the golden rule which virtually all religious founders thought. Those that oppose it as cultic claim it will stop them from preaching and converting people to their. That was the situation I asked the question not when insanity is involved or out of order.

 
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