I am only filling in this box because I am required to. I think that people are closer, while a person's conclusive actions best display his/her spirituality by way of an action itself, per say, such as chasing a squirrel from the road instead of it getting hit and injured. If the suggestive attitude agrees w/ a form of resolve close to self-admiration, the feeling and the action may very well be dismissed, unless of course it is selfless. This is the contradictory question.
The church is only a building while the people are the body of Christ. Without people, a church means nothing.
If churches remained and mankind were extinct, then what? What if churches are full of animals, instead of people as its inhabitants?
Who represent God, or Jesus for that matter is very old question. Until 18th century it was thought Church represented the Lord. But now people think good people represent the Lord.
the word 'good' is what is operable- without that descriptive adjective, it almost like saying we are all equal in the eyes of the Lord, dependent upon personal belief...
I couldn't tell you the exact words but I know in the bible somewhere it mentions that Jesus calls a church any place where 2 people meet to talk of the lord. It does not have to be a building and the advent of creating churches in a building form and making people to believe they must attend them to properly worship is the biggest scam our world has ever known and will continue to know.
Love that answer man, really. Talk of the Lord- cool! I suppose in theology one could say just the reading and the writing of texts is like two people, so an arguement there could be 'is the one who wrote the Bible the other?' Hmmm lol. Here's another premise- what if animals were here and we were extinct? Would that mean that (for the believers) the innocents were a frog and a possom and a squirrel? It's interesting stuff- thanks man!!!
No one needs to, but people do. The "church"? Is all about control of and over the masses.
The "church" has purposely used "religion" for purely selfish reasons, preaches it's own hypocrisy and expects a consciously active individual to buy into it.
It purposely shows people it is a "do as I say, not as I do" model, which no longer works, as any type of authority. It brings chaos to the world, instead of ridding the world of it.
The first two paragraphs- off topic altogether. That's like saying the first church was created to 'take-over' the masses, which I assume is logically incorrect. World domination, not in the beginning.
The third part is a debate- do as I say... Okay, well human interpretation had led you to conclude that it is wrong, and so it must be a book with some interest in being biased, right? That sorta makes sense, only the interpretation is more likely to be biased because it is what was concluded, if that makes sense. Knowing fire is hot without addressing it is the closest thing to asking a question, or being the actual writer of a book, as opposed to being a reader, where an opinion is developed. Even if an opinion is stated in a text, holy or otherwise, our conclusion follows, thus making it more important (we've seen a million revisions of many holy and spiritual texts, like a game of telephone...)
You've conclude it is an authority. I have heard this one before and it's interesting. I think we limit ourselves, even when jailed or ridiculed. It's our thoughts and feelings that rotate the world's axis, and give influence to power and all surrounding the human mind and its conclusions. If it is an authority, it is because you have concluded it is, whcih is an opinion, blahblahblah.
Off topic, Cagsil, don't you just HATE governments where the religion is the governing and dictating power lol? Basically, is has been interpreted, yes interpreted, as an authority and a ruler.
Actually, I wasn't off topic. Nothing in my statement is off topic.
I answered your "Does 'church' represent the Lord, or do people", question. If you don't like the answer, then don't ask questions you are unwilling to accept answers to.
It's not saying that at all. What would be the best way to dominate another person? It would be to make them think they are inferior and must answer to a high authority.
The book, if it's religion based and written, then it is biased and it promotes "do as I say, not as I do". Not only does the "church" encourage that specific statement, it's people live it. If it's not "God's word" or "God's Will", then it is wrong. It promotes people become separated from others and it even tells you, those who are not with you, in your belief, then they are against you.
And, your point? If there is one.(and you talk about me being off topic?)
You making a point?
What is an authority? The only authority I concede is my own authority over myself. There cannot be a higher authority. It's irrational to say so.
Know thy self and You are you're own worse enemy, are two sayings that best fit humans.
Wrong again as it seems. But, to answer your question- religion brought politics. Government is just another layer of controlling the masses. Since the "church" knows "god" is a joke, it must protect the species and installed man-made governments and laws.
I think you need to get out more.
we best represent ourselves, although a spiritual entity has a belief within it represented by us, so either one does, us, or both, we and what we have created...
think about that!
-johnathan-
the curb + I: the art of the homeless on amazon.com lol
an arguement or debate must has two sides to it, and posted earlier there is comment claiming that the first churches were built for two people to discuss the Lord, so that establishes that a church is a place for discussion
second, if the good book has inspired discussion, it is open to arguement and debate, therefore open to interpretation...
null and void- the concept (originally, as is in my own opinion) was to provide a discussion, whereby churches were originally created---
this idea that the Bible or Torah was made as an authority or a world-domination scheme is outlandish and discerning, basically, I get out plenty!
Do you think, atheist or otherwise, that the Lord would consider this conversation to be a great discussion, or that it is our interpretive plot to lead us to conquer the world?
It's an opinion, and it is, so far, arguementative and justly incorrect-
-johnathan-
New Englanders, like myself, are the liberal version (usually) of what the Bible-telephone game has become. I find it saddening that there are educated people out there with a ranking score such as my own. I guess you have to be sort of a loser to really increase your HubScore, and answer questions with little or no interest to really get involved.
Kind sir, and I am assuming you are a man, I find you quite impulsive. You have not stuck to the topic and ranted like a drunken fool. The debate at hand has been treated far too lightly from your side, and your conclusions are as far off as a stranded sailor. You think the Bible is a device, when it is a book, and not one to be disrespected. I have had plenty of good conversations w/ non-believers and have never been insulted. I do not understand your point, only that (it seems) your values are that of a communist german soldier from the early forties w/ the intent to dominate everything, and this expressed opinion, from my side, of course, takes that pathetic stance and tramples on it.
I find you to be somewhat socialist, not educated, boring and outspoken to top it off right. A debate has two equal sides to it, with each other side eschanging thoughts and ideas. I have not found that at all in your answers, and hope your ideas of world-domination work out for you. I, on the other hand, am going to have some iced cream (not 'ice cream lol).
Enjoy, whatever your name was. Maybe you need some too...
here's a spoon- 'dig' in
Really? It sounds like your OP to begin with.
Sounds like you have bigger issues to work through than finding me impulsive.
You must have a comprehension problem. Good to know for future communications.
Conclusions? You seem to love making assumptions more than gather answers.
Really? Not to be disrespected. Yes, it IS a book and YES, it IS a device. The book itself doesn't EARN respect, it EXPECTS it.
YOU don't get respect automatically. It is EARNED on an individual level, when YOU associate with others.
I'm sure that's untrue as well. But, apparently you have no problem attempting to insult others.
And, like I said. Apparently, you have a comprehension problem.
Why am I not surprised by your statement.
That's nice. I don't debate things. I already see clearly from an objective point of view I learned to create for myself, so I wouldn't be normally viewing things subjectively.
I am able to evaluate both sides and follow the path which is best, to it's end. I don't think your mind works that well, but you could at least try it once in a while, just to expand your mind.
Johnathan, it's not world domination I seek. And, for you to think that is absurd and shows your reading comprehension is worse than mine.
Anger Issues - How to Deal With Anger
anger-issues.org
get this....
It would be great if God, being omnipotent and all, could just represent HIMSELF. But that would be asking religion to come out of the Dark Ages.
by Jerad Maplethorpe 12 years ago
What we forget so quickly is our past. Our past leads us to the present and the present is not good.This article isn't posted by me but gives a very good look back through the United States struggle with debt. I'd like you to notice the quotes given by many of our founding fathers:...
by ngureco 8 years ago
Why Do Women Go Against The Word Of God And Seek To Preach In Churches? (1 Corinthians 14:34-36)
by Sarah C Nason 6 years ago
Why are people hateful for no reason?I've noticed now on Hubpages, instead of just straight up answering a question, people will attack other people in their answer. For example, they start criticizing religious people when the question has nothing to do with religion. It's like their answer is...
by Del Banks 6 years ago
Is it right for our churches to start "selling out" to the fear of government persecution?Our pastor, the founder of our small country church has ordered all signage taken down that identifies us as a church to any passers by. His fear is that with all of the "up coming persecution...
by Kathryn L Hill 8 years ago
I believe freedom to choose one's religious path must be granted universally. Muslims should not expect others to become Muslim. Christians should not expect others to become Christian or criticize others for not being/becoming Christian.Religions are like a a box of assorted chocolates. God...
by Cortney McCarty 10 years ago
If your views conflict with the teachings of the church, how can you still practice Christianity?If your views conflict with the teachings of the Bible or church, how can you balance those things to practice Christianity or any other religion you choose?
Copyright © 2023 The Arena Media Brands, LLC and respective content providers on this website. HubPages® is a registered trademark of The Arena Platform, Inc. Other product and company names shown may be trademarks of their respective owners. The Arena Media Brands, LLC and respective content providers to this website may receive compensation for some links to products and services on this website.
Copyright © 2023 Maven Media Brands, LLC and respective owners.
As a user in the EEA, your approval is needed on a few things. To provide a better website experience, hubpages.com uses cookies (and other similar technologies) and may collect, process, and share personal data. Please choose which areas of our service you consent to our doing so.
For more information on managing or withdrawing consents and how we handle data, visit our Privacy Policy at: https://corp.maven.io/privacy-policy
Show DetailsNecessary | |
---|---|
HubPages Device ID | This is used to identify particular browsers or devices when the access the service, and is used for security reasons. |
Login | This is necessary to sign in to the HubPages Service. |
Google Recaptcha | This is used to prevent bots and spam. (Privacy Policy) |
Akismet | This is used to detect comment spam. (Privacy Policy) |
HubPages Google Analytics | This is used to provide data on traffic to our website, all personally identifyable data is anonymized. (Privacy Policy) |
HubPages Traffic Pixel | This is used to collect data on traffic to articles and other pages on our site. Unless you are signed in to a HubPages account, all personally identifiable information is anonymized. |
Amazon Web Services | This is a cloud services platform that we used to host our service. (Privacy Policy) |
Cloudflare | This is a cloud CDN service that we use to efficiently deliver files required for our service to operate such as javascript, cascading style sheets, images, and videos. (Privacy Policy) |
Google Hosted Libraries | Javascript software libraries such as jQuery are loaded at endpoints on the googleapis.com or gstatic.com domains, for performance and efficiency reasons. (Privacy Policy) |
Features | |
---|---|
Google Custom Search | This is feature allows you to search the site. (Privacy Policy) |
Google Maps | Some articles have Google Maps embedded in them. (Privacy Policy) |
Google Charts | This is used to display charts and graphs on articles and the author center. (Privacy Policy) |
Google AdSense Host API | This service allows you to sign up for or associate a Google AdSense account with HubPages, so that you can earn money from ads on your articles. No data is shared unless you engage with this feature. (Privacy Policy) |
Google YouTube | Some articles have YouTube videos embedded in them. (Privacy Policy) |
Vimeo | Some articles have Vimeo videos embedded in them. (Privacy Policy) |
Paypal | This is used for a registered author who enrolls in the HubPages Earnings program and requests to be paid via PayPal. No data is shared with Paypal unless you engage with this feature. (Privacy Policy) |
Facebook Login | You can use this to streamline signing up for, or signing in to your Hubpages account. No data is shared with Facebook unless you engage with this feature. (Privacy Policy) |
Maven | This supports the Maven widget and search functionality. (Privacy Policy) |
Marketing | |
---|---|
Google AdSense | This is an ad network. (Privacy Policy) |
Google DoubleClick | Google provides ad serving technology and runs an ad network. (Privacy Policy) |
Index Exchange | This is an ad network. (Privacy Policy) |
Sovrn | This is an ad network. (Privacy Policy) |
Facebook Ads | This is an ad network. (Privacy Policy) |
Amazon Unified Ad Marketplace | This is an ad network. (Privacy Policy) |
AppNexus | This is an ad network. (Privacy Policy) |
Openx | This is an ad network. (Privacy Policy) |
Rubicon Project | This is an ad network. (Privacy Policy) |
TripleLift | This is an ad network. (Privacy Policy) |
Say Media | We partner with Say Media to deliver ad campaigns on our sites. (Privacy Policy) |
Remarketing Pixels | We may use remarketing pixels from advertising networks such as Google AdWords, Bing Ads, and Facebook in order to advertise the HubPages Service to people that have visited our sites. |
Conversion Tracking Pixels | We may use conversion tracking pixels from advertising networks such as Google AdWords, Bing Ads, and Facebook in order to identify when an advertisement has successfully resulted in the desired action, such as signing up for the HubPages Service or publishing an article on the HubPages Service. |
Statistics | |
---|---|
Author Google Analytics | This is used to provide traffic data and reports to the authors of articles on the HubPages Service. (Privacy Policy) |
Comscore | ComScore is a media measurement and analytics company providing marketing data and analytics to enterprises, media and advertising agencies, and publishers. Non-consent will result in ComScore only processing obfuscated personal data. (Privacy Policy) |
Amazon Tracking Pixel | Some articles display amazon products as part of the Amazon Affiliate program, this pixel provides traffic statistics for those products (Privacy Policy) |
Clicksco | This is a data management platform studying reader behavior (Privacy Policy) |