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   onixxposted 12 years ago

   what life afterlife?

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      Castlepalomaposted 12 years agoin reply to this

      You will know when you get there

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      Cagsilposted 12 years agoin reply to this

      What afterlife?
      
      Any assumption of an afterlife is just that....pure assumption.

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      paarsurreyposted 12 years agoin reply to this

      There is surely an afterlife when we die.

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   Dave Mathewsposted 12 years ago

   We are all created first as spirits. We become human to learn and experience different things. When it is time, our human form dies and we revert back to being spirit beings once again.

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   A.S.K.Preacherposted 12 years ago

   Not unless you have experienced it. Not through drugs. Not through stress related pressures, but as a child in love. It is real - not imagined. Notice I am not citing scripture. That is a big thing for me.

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      Cagsilposted 12 years agoin reply to this

      Love is a human emotion. It has nothing to do with spirituality or an afterlife. And, to think it does, is foolish.

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         Castlepalomaposted 12 years agoin reply to this

         Why would call most people fools? spiritual love connects everything.

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            Cagsilposted 12 years agoin reply to this

            Hey Castle,
            
            Love is a connection, however, it isn't pre-established within everyone. Love is an emotion that needs to be built. It's people(fools) who refuse to understand it.
            
            Nothing spirituality about it either.

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               Castlepalomaposted 12 years agoin reply to this

               Well spiritual  almost connect everything, defining spiritual being  the 99% unknowns.

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                  Cagsilposted 12 years agoin reply to this

                  Not such address(spirituality). Go learn something about reality.

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                     Castlepalomaposted 12 years agoin reply to this

                     Oh! Three times as many spiritual books than science books. Then it's all a mis print and will be dammed by Cagsil reality.

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                        Cagsilposted 12 years agoin reply to this

                        Read my other reply to with regards to this statement. I'm not going to repeat the same thing, I just said to you in another thread. It goes to show that you have a comprehension problem or just cannot keep up? One of the two.

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                           Castlepalomaposted 12 years agoin reply to this

                           mis print and will be dammed by Cagsil reality, did I say that before?
                           
                           There is no reality only perspective keep in mind that what you consider reality is really, an accumulation of what your senses have picked up.
                           
                           There's no Truth, only perspective, our greatest time in North America is lying, there is degrees of truth, and my aim is to have high degree of truth

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                              Jeramiposted 12 years agoin reply to this

                              YOU'R   perseption jusyt may become YOU'R reality in the other world.
                              
                              
                                  SOooooo   be careul what you wish fore.

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                              Cagsilposted 12 years agoin reply to this

                              Yeah, you've said that before. It's not my reality.
                              Perspective has nothing to do with reality. What part do you not understand?
                              No truth? Only perspective? You keep thinking that.
                              
                              I am now reminded of an old saying- "it's not worth arguing with an idiot, because they will only bring you down to their level and beat with experience".
                              
                              We're done.

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                                 Castlepalomaposted 12 years agoin reply to this

                                 it's not worth arguing, disagreeing would be fine or a simple no
                                 
                                 Downing people really sucks the big one

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   A.S.K.Preacherposted 12 years ago

   I disagree. Love - true love is an action. 1 Corinthians 13:4-8 Love is patient, kind, is not envious, does not boast, is not proud, is not rude, is not self seeking, is not easily angered, keeps no record of wrong, does not delight in evil, rejoices with truth. Always protects, trusts, hopes and perseveres. Love never fails.

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      Evolution Guyposted 12 years agoin reply to this

      So - god never punishes?

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         A.S.K.Preacherposted 12 years agoin reply to this

         Yes God punishes, but He does not delight in it. Ezekiel 18:32 He would prefer you would allow Him to reason with you. Isaiah 1:18 How can He reason with you if you refuse to take a look at life with a different perspective?
         Even Darwin had to use some science and view different areas of science in order to come to the theory he did, though it was wrong.

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      Cagsilposted 12 years agoin reply to this

      Oh, now you're quoting scripture.
      
      Love is nothing more than emotion. It can be seen in the actions of people. Do try to learn things in the proper context.

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   Greek Oneposted 12 years ago

   "After life" is a term that is used to describe a marriage after the honeymoon

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   A.S.K.Preacherposted 12 years ago

   Evolution Guy - In order to receive love you must believe. He is willing to forgive and give you His love. Are you willing to go out on a limb and seek Him out?
   
   Cagsil - You must really be uptight. To hold all that emotion in and never let it out! How sad.

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      Cagsilposted 12 years agoin reply to this

      Who is holding in emotion? Boy is your perception skewed. WOW!

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      Evolution Guyposted 12 years agoin reply to this

      Rubbish. Please stop speaking trite nonsense at me. I am nowhere near as uneducated as yourself.
      
      Are you willing to accept reality?

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      Cagsilposted 12 years agoin reply to this

      Untrue. In order to receive love, one must first demonstrate they know how to love, by loving themselves, so love is in their actions for others to see. No god required.

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      Castlepalomaposted 12 years agoin reply to this

      What rigit view of the word God and of love, there are plenity of people who think they are mentally ill , when its mainly the fact that many of us have this big of emotion we carry around.

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         Cagsilposted 12 years agoin reply to this

         Really? Those who kill and murder people for no reason at all, are they really feeling love?

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            Castlepalomaposted 12 years agoin reply to this

            Those are the one who are mentally ill and will be locked up
            
            Not to be kill them to prove to all of us killing is wrong
            
            Double moral don't you think?

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               Cagsilposted 12 years agoin reply to this

               Nice to see you have no complete understanding of a worldview. You must be proud of yourself.

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   A.S.K.Preacherposted 12 years ago

   You both deny the very thing that gives you life! If the breath that is in you were gone they would say at your funeral, "That isn't him/her." They would be right. What would be left is thought and feeling. Those electrical impulses that keep you going. You do not die when you die, but there is a death after death worse than dying. Are you really so sure about what you do not know to take that chance?

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      Cagsilposted 12 years agoin reply to this

      I have never denied my parents of anything they asked.
      Untrue.
      How would you know? Did you die and come back with further information that no one on the planet has available? Death is the complete destruction of consciousness.
      Again, are you stating that you have further evidence no one else has?
      This statement is completely foolish. I understand that there's a lot I don't know with regards to knowledge. However, with that said, there's absolutely nothing about understanding my life that I don't know. Too bad you don't know the difference.

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         A.S.K.Preacherposted 12 years agoin reply to this

         I was talking about the essence that keeps you alive, not your parents.
         I do not know if you would call it dying but yes I have been to the other side and I am not the only one who has been given such an experience.
         It is you who is blinded my friend. Your conscience does not die it expands when free of fleshy bonds. But those who refuse to accept God and continue in understanding that His way is right and good are kept in the prison of their own making.

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            A Troubled Manposted 12 years agoin reply to this

            That's impossible considering the conscience is the brain, so if the brain dies, so does the conscience.

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            Cagsilposted 12 years agoin reply to this

            Excuse you? The essence that keeps you alive has nothing to do with spirituality. It does however have to do with consciousness and will.
            You wouldn't have any recollection if you died.
            Oh really? Like I haven't heard that before.
            Untrue and pure conjecture. The human conscience dies when human consciousness completely ceases to exist.

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               paradigmsearchposted 12 years agoin reply to this

               But I don't want to die!!!

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                  A.S.K.Preacherposted 12 years agoin reply to this

                  If it were will that kept you alive I am sure there are a great many people who would still be alive. They would simply will it.
                  When you go to someone's funeral people will say that just wasn't him/her. Everybody REALIZES that body is not the person it once was. The conscience is very much alive! You will find that out.

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   A.S.K.Preacherposted 12 years ago

   Reality is again a matter of perspective. You are most definately not a Bengal Tiger. I will bet you knew more than your parents at one time. We all do it. Then you grew up and found out you did not know nearly as much as you thought. Even if this is not the case; there has to have been a point in your life that you learned something you did not know.
   How then can you so adamantly affirm that which you have not seen or heard?

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      Cagsilposted 12 years agoin reply to this

      Untrue. Reality exists free of thoughts, dreams, desires, will or wishes.

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         Castlepalomaposted 12 years agoin reply to this

         limited

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            Cagsilposted 12 years agoin reply to this

            Actually, it's not. It's proper.

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               crazyhorsesghostposted 12 years agoin reply to this

               I truly believe and know that their is a after life. I have seen enough in my 62 plus years here on this planet that I know for a fact that life does not end with death. Now I'm not sure what comes next and I'm in no hurry to find out but I know that life continues after death.

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                  Cagsilposted 12 years agoin reply to this

                  Interesting statement.
                  And I'm sure that you've attributed things to other things, not knowing the difference too.

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         A.S.K.Preacherposted 12 years agoin reply to this

         Thoughts, dreams, desires, will and wishes are reality.

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            Cagsilposted 12 years agoin reply to this

            Are ideas perceived. Which have no effect on reality, until you either speak them or put actions into making real.
            Are sub-conscious thoughts. Again, have no effect on reality, until action is put forth to make them real.
            Desires are wants or emotional urges, which do not effect reality until action is to fulfill.
            Will has no effect on reality without action.
            Again, no action, then no effect.
            Just proved to be untrue.
            
            Thank you and have a nice day.

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               A.S.K.Preacherposted 12 years agoin reply to this

               Didn't I just see a post of yours that insinuated a person could WILL themselves to live? Thought is real. No thought no action.

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                  jomineposted 12 years agoin reply to this

                  Real???

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                     A.S.K.Preacherposted 12 years agoin reply to this

                     But each one is tempted when by his own evil desires he is enticed and dragged away. Then when desire has conceived it gives birth to sin and sin when it is full grown gives birth to death.
                     I tell you that if a man looks at a woman with lust in his heart he has already committed adultery.
                     The beginning of action is thought. The reality is thought. Without thought nothing happens. This is why intelligent design is my belief. Nothing did not come from nothing unless intelligence made it so.

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                        jomineposted 12 years agoin reply to this

                        The first part is meaningless babble, which makes no sense. What is sin? What is death? They are entirely different and have no relation what so ever.Thoughts are not real. Real means having a physical presence. It is the chemicals that mediate thought that is real. So your first premise is faulty. Again another question will be who conceived the thoughts for the intelligent designer? Your own reasoning says thought has to be there before, then it goes on and on incessantly.

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                           A.S.K.Preacherposted 12 years agoin reply to this

                           It isn't meaningless if you see the progression in the words. Thought is a process as is anything. A process suggests intelligence. Sin is a progression away from life, peace, truth, light. Fulfilling selfish desires draws you into darkness. Those desires may seem good at first, but eventually you ask yourself, "Why am I here?"
                           Thoughts are real. Every animal on this planet has a form of intelligence. Some of that is considered instinctual. A lion feels hunger. A toad instinctively seeks a burrow during dry weather. These are workings of the environment upon those creatures and the brain recognizes those influences to pass the necessary information along to the body so that it reacts appropriately.
                           Man, who can reason intelligently, is the only creature that reasons intelligence out of action. Chemicals do what they are supposed to do. Why is it reasonable to believe chemical reactions happen by chance and so formed life and not believe there is something bigger than all of us who has intelligently designed every single thing in the universe?
                           Intelligence was here before anything. This is the old question, "Which came first the chicken or the egg?" I can tell you the answer. Genesis 1:21
                           God always was. Just because humans cannot comprehend this does not make it false. This is a matter of faith, but proof is all around those who seek the truth. We who are believers have become new creatures! WE are amazed at every turn within us as well as outside ourselves because we see the intelligence of our creator all around us.
                           Remember those computer generated pictures? Some people no matter how hard they try, just cannot seem to see the picture. They are missing out on an amazing creation by man, by God. If you cannot see the tree - maybe it is because you are looking at the forest.

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