Those that want to learn from me should pay attention to nothing I say

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   mischeviousmeposted 11 years ago

   Follow the actions and the teachings, but pay no attention to the words.

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      Michele Travisposted 11 years agoin reply to this

      

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      Apostle Jackposted 11 years agoin reply to this

      What we say set the stage for what followers . What we do verify what we have said. So it is important to let it be known so as your worth can be measured by your actions ,and what you have said.
      
      It is a product of poor leadership to show bad examples and lack of quality.

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         mischeviousmeposted 11 years agoin reply to this

         What I said was meant to make no sense, for because if we think we know something, it becomes nonsense. I must admit that I know nothing before I am open to any form of knowledge or teaching. If you pay too much attention to me, you will not be paying enough attention to yourself. To know that you are here and that I am speaking, is more reallistic than leaving your life behind and blindly following me. One must have open eyes to see what I'm doing and then the same can be said for another. If their eyes are closed all of the time, they will walk into walls and again, learn nothing.

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      kessposted 11 years agoin reply to this

      To know understand Life you must listen to the things I say...
      
      The things I say are Truth and I can tell you no Lie..
      
      Since knowing Life is knowing Truth and knowing you and these are the things I would show to you.
      
      ...So therefore you should not ignore anything I say otherwise we cannot be ONE which demands Truth.

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   Emile Rposted 11 years ago

   Those who seek to lead are usually the least qualified for the task.

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      mischeviousmeposted 11 years agoin reply to this

      Exactly. I am basically telling the readers that what I have to say is nonsense. So are the words of all teachers and while you may learn something from them, the truth is, the words are meaningless.

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         Emile Rposted 11 years agoin reply to this

         I wouldn't say the words are meaningless. I would agree that they shouldn't be taken as gospel. No one should follow anyone else's spiritual journey. It will always lead to a dead end.

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            mischeviousmeposted 11 years agoin reply to this

            Exactly. One should learn from it, not be controlled by it.

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      couturepopcafeposted 11 years agoin reply to this

      IMO, that's not always true.  I guess it would depend on the situation.  Clearly there are leaders and followers.  Sometimes the child leads, sometimes the warrior and sometimes it's just the person who is the most capable in a given situation. A qualified person should step up and offer to lead when leadership is called for.

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         mischeviousmeposted 11 years agoin reply to this

         I want none to follow me, I am just pointing out a form of truth. Many christians and others alike that haven't, should read the upanishads. They are the oldest religious texts that exist today and are said to date back 25,000 years or so, to just before the last ice age, when they were still an oral tradition. Many can learn from them but they aren't for everybody, an aquired taste.

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            Apostle Jackposted 11 years agoin reply to this

            Action speak louder than words,that is a fact. But my word is my bond, and that is also a fact. So I speak...so I do.Action without description is hard to understand,and makes one wonder without explanation . Prophecy,is words given that first must be told and then fulfilled. I am not speaking about false prophets, but the true ones among the few. Both are important,one is just more revealing than the other.

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               mischeviousmeposted 11 years agoin reply to this

               I do not prophess anything, I only say it how I see it and I was inspired by the suffering of the world. I want people to find peace in my words, if they don't, I'm sorry I failed you. I know that for the attempt that I am right with the world and that is all that matters. The same can be said for all of those before me. If their words fell on deaf ears, I'm sorry for those that missed it.

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                  Apostle Jackposted 11 years agoin reply to this

                  You have said not to believe anything you say,so why should I believe what you are saying now? I am not saying that you are a prophet,I was just using that for an example. My point is,...my word is my bond,that is equal to confidence in the occurrence  and statement of it.
                  
                  One can depend on my words as well as my actions because I will go the measure to make my words good.And too, concerning my self as a true prophet,my words are PREDESTINE and not just by chance.
                  Many have came before me,and many have proven to be fake all the way and not appointed by God.
                  
                  But let us not forget that not all the apples in the barrel was rotten,and that God have reserve a time for His true anointed to come forth that God may have the last word.

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                     mischeviousmeposted 11 years agoin reply to this

                     I speak on behalf of the one. I am the many and I am the one that has become the many. I am like you but I am not you and I can no more make you see my way, as I can see your's. I reallize that I speak in riddles and idioms, but this is a hard subject to explain, especially in human terms. You can no more understand this than I can make you understand. I point out the truths that are evident in todays stressful world. I am pointing out how I escaped and am now sitting on high, if only in my own mind. This is enlightenment, an escape from this and all it has to offer. I see the beauty of the world as only my eyes can see it and it is grand.
                     
                        We suffer the world, we do not embrace it. We see suffering and fear it for ourselve's. I have accepted this as it is and I am free. I am not trying to get you to come over, I am trying to show you that it can be easier than we make it. I am human and I will not be able to reach everyone and it pains me that I desire to do so. I agree with everyone and I see the flaw in it, but I have no choice, for I walk the path that I have chosen.

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         Emile Rposted 11 years agoin reply to this

         Yes. But,  the statement was made in a religion and philosophy forum. More often than not, it's ego that drives the footsteps to the front when it comes to spirituality. Any spiritual leader that actively seeks to lead, or enjoys the limelight, is automatically suspect. Imo.

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            mischeviousmeposted 11 years agoin reply to this

            Why not say that to me? I like to talk and it helps me to learn of what "I" should be doing. Do you fear me or do you fear that I may be right?

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               Emile Rposted 11 years agoin reply to this

               I was responding to another hubber. I wasn't directing the comment toward you. But, trust me, I have no  reason to fear anyone that I am aware of.

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                  mischeviousmeposted 11 years agoin reply to this

                  The context of your words corralated with what I had just said and if I was mistaken, I appologize.

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                     Emile Rposted 11 years agoin reply to this

                     No worries. She had replied to my post and I was simply pointing out you'd posted this in religion and philosophy. I agreed with her assessment in the context of other arenas.

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   Druid Dudeposted 11 years ago

   Don't believe a single word that I, or anyone else tells you. Believe no one. Seek the truth. It really is all around us. If you don't look for it, it is impossible to find. If you don't believe that people can fly, there would be no airplanes. One man's impossible is another man's possibility. That's the way it works...that's how we got to where we are. The truth really is out there. It is as much an internal truth as an external one. We are of the universe, and the universe is of us. To observe the experiment...changes the experiment. We are creatures of energy, and on the subatomic level, we are like a universe unto ourselves. In this fractal place, patterns endlessly replicating, points to the idea that all things follow a pattern, endlessly replicating, no beginning and no end. These patterns are discernable, and hold true from the smallest to the greatest. There are no accidents. Everything is mathematically predictable. Everything. It is called the universal language. Why does the universe have a perfect language, the use of which is able to predict everything in creation? The evidence is all around us. Don't take my word...or anyone else's. Look for it.

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      mischeviousmeposted 11 years agoin reply to this

      I said that, but you said it better. Thanks again my friend...

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         Apostle Jackposted 11 years agoin reply to this

         That don't exclude the fact that some knowledge is given and not discovered.
         You can't find spiritual concepts in scientific equations, because it is given and cannot be discovered by world education and is one of the reasons why science have many holes in it. You forgot to include SPIRITUALITY in your assessment. Your cannot have a completed work,without including all the parts.

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            A Troubled Manposted 11 years agoin reply to this

            Some people are special, others are not.
            
            
            
            You can't find reality in religion.
            
            
            
            
            
            You forget that some knowledge is given and not discovered hence religion does not allow for completed works, but only some parts.

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               Apostle Jackposted 11 years agoin reply to this

               I think that we are on the same page about religion . It don't have all the parts.
               Religion is from below.Christianity is from above. Some people have to go through a lot more trials and tribulation to bring forth quality to the table of truth and progress than others do.
               They are the ones that clear the path for others.... The ones that take the first step in battle.... The unsung hero's, and the ones that stand in the face of opposition and numbers. They are special. They are the true leaders.

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                  A Troubled Manposted 11 years agoin reply to this

                  Obviously not on the same page, Christianity IS a religion.
                  
                  
                  
                  We don't want any more religious battles or religious fanatics opposing anymore. Thanks.

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            mischeviousmeposted 11 years agoin reply to this

            Modern religion has just as many holes as any other belief. I can only say that I believe something for myself and no one else. This why I say it is a personal venture. My version will always differ from your's, no matter who I may be at the time.

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               Apostle Jackposted 11 years agoin reply to this

               Not everyone will believe the same thing in this world. Christianity is not a religion.Region is pagan and from beneath. Christianity is Divine and from above.It is the salvation of God for spiritual deliverance to gain eternal life.
               
               Don't miss the boat.

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                  mischeviousmeposted 11 years agoin reply to this

                  I have no misconceptions as to what God is and no religion will help me realize this. My mother once stopped me from killing a pill bug because it was a "Living extension of God". All things are God, but without the observer to say so, I'm not sure if "it" exists at all. The main problem is, that God is an extension of the need to know and hence, every religion is an extension there of.

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                     Brenda Durhamposted 11 years agoin reply to this

                     Do you think she'd let you kill a roach?
                     Or a mouse?
                     Or a poisonous snake?
                     
                     I do want to learn your answer to this, even though you said pay no attention to what you say! haha.  See, people's spoken word does mean something.  Sometimes it even means a LOT.

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                        mischeviousmeposted 11 years agoin reply to this

                        My mother, being a sufi. Believed that all life is divine, even that of the asp. Don't hate the snake, for you only hate what the snake does. But the snake is only performing a task as it has for eons. All life is divine in the universe and is part of it. If one should want to learn of something, it is probably better that they not get it from me, I can only tell you what I know for myself and opinions vary.

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   Retrohawaiiposted 11 years ago

   Good One !!!!

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