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Does human reason tell us the only thing we should believe?

  1. Kyle Payne profile image60
    Kyle Payneposted 6 years ago

    Does human reason tell us the only thing we should believe?

    1. profile image60
      paarsurreyposted 6 years agoin reply to this

      Yes to some extent.

  2. knolyourself profile image60
    knolyourselfposted 6 years ago

    The human body tells you the only thing you should and must believe. After that human reason can tell you anything.

    1. mischeviousme profile image59
      mischeviousmeposted 6 years agoin reply to this

      There it is.

    2. Kyle Payne profile image60
      Kyle Payneposted 6 years agoin reply to this

      Could you expand on that a little bit more, maybe by example, for sake of my understanding you?

      1. mischeviousme profile image59
        mischeviousmeposted 6 years agoin reply to this

        In trying to understand, the word become of no use. It is not in the words, it is in the meaning and what ever you think it means, is an illusion.

        1. Kyle Payne profile image60
          Kyle Payneposted 6 years agoin reply to this

          By an illusion do you mean an erroneous mental representation?

          1. mischeviousme profile image59
            mischeviousmeposted 6 years agoin reply to this

            Yes. "I" is what is the problem. If we can live now, the past becomes unimportant and the "I" gets left behind, clinging to a past that does not exist.

            1. Kyle Payne profile image60
              Kyle Payneposted 6 years agoin reply to this

              I do not understand how that could even be fuctionable.

              1. mischeviousme profile image59
                mischeviousmeposted 6 years agoin reply to this

                It doesn't have to be and it will not be if the mind tries to grasp at meaning. The words are words and the meaning is only as deep as you think it is.

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    Emile Rposted 6 years ago

    Human reason kind of negates the idea of blind faith. Doesn't it?

    1. autumn18 profile image65
      autumn18posted 6 years agoin reply to this

      I would think so.

    2. mischeviousme profile image59
      mischeviousmeposted 6 years agoin reply to this

      It can if we let it. The only true "truth" is now. There is no other truth than the experience. What ever the mind decides it is, is an illusion.

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        Emile Rposted 6 years agoin reply to this

        But the now is an illusion. Where's the truth?

    3. Kyle Payne profile image60
      Kyle Payneposted 6 years agoin reply to this

      Yes it does.

  4. knolyourself profile image60
    knolyourselfposted 6 years ago

    If someone points a gun at you and says your money or your life,
    you can believe the gun will kill you, or not and reason he won't kill me. Which will you believe your body or your mind?

    1. Kyle Payne profile image60
      Kyle Payneposted 6 years agoin reply to this

      The body is merely a representation of the will of the mind, the recognizable character of a person, and the sustainer of the ability to communicate with other minds.

      1. mischeviousme profile image59
        mischeviousmeposted 6 years agoin reply to this

        If one is willing to kill for money, then they probably need it more than I do and I am glad to help them.

      2. Pcunix profile image90
        Pcunixposted 6 years agoin reply to this

        Nope.  Your body is quite real.  You'll learn  more about that as you get older smile

  5. Pcunix profile image90
    Pcunixposted 6 years ago

    Absolutely not.   There are some decisions that can only be made by emotion, either because they have no facts to rationalize or because there are so many factors that reasoning is impossible.

    1. Kyle Payne profile image60
      Kyle Payneposted 6 years agoin reply to this

      Interesting, do you have an example of what you are speaking of?

      1. Pcunix profile image90
        Pcunixposted 6 years agoin reply to this

        There are hundreds.   For the "too much", we even have evidence from brain damage where the emotional response has een lost - these poor people can't decide anything of any complexity - they just dither back and forth.

        For the more direct, think of deciding whether you like someone or trust them or love them.  Those are emotional decisions.

        1. Kyle Payne profile image60
          Kyle Payneposted 6 years agoin reply to this

          Just curious, do you believe that faith should be disregarded in light of the fact that we can make decisions based on reason and emotion?

          1. mischeviousme profile image59
            mischeviousmeposted 6 years agoin reply to this

            If we make them based on those terms, then we have missed the boat completely and the illusion will continue.

            1. Kyle Payne profile image60
              Kyle Payneposted 6 years agoin reply to this

              What terms should decisions be made on then, if it is not reason and emotion?

              1. mischeviousme profile image59
                mischeviousmeposted 6 years agoin reply to this

                That we can no more control now as we can a sneeze. The world does as it does and we are a part of it, like it or not.

                1. Kyle Payne profile image60
                  Kyle Payneposted 6 years agoin reply to this

                  We can control the now.

                  1. mischeviousme profile image59
                    mischeviousmeposted 6 years agoin reply to this

                    We can do all sorts of things, that does not mean we are in control.

          2. Pcunix profile image90
            Pcunixposted 6 years agoin reply to this

            Faith can be comforting to those who need it.  It's not real, but that doesn't mean it has no value.

            1. mischeviousme profile image59
              mischeviousmeposted 6 years agoin reply to this

              Yes.  But the value is intrinsic and is part of the individual journey. It won't make now any easier either. Now is just now and I cannot avoid it.

            2. Druid Dude profile image61
              Druid Dudeposted 6 years agoin reply to this

              A pill can be coforting to those who need it. It's not real, but that doesn't mean it has no value. smile

              1. mischeviousme profile image59
                mischeviousmeposted 6 years agoin reply to this

                Though it won't stop the pain when it becomes real. The future is not real and we all need to understand that, the things we do now are only in time with now. The future is an instant that has yet to be revealed.

                1. Pcunix profile image90
                  Pcunixposted 6 years agoin reply to this

                  Not true.  Placebos can cure pain and disease sometimes.

                  The future is dependent on the past.  Cause and effect.

                  1. mischeviousme profile image59
                    mischeviousmeposted 6 years agoin reply to this

                    Causality is what's holding us back from now. We tend to see the future as a result of the past, when in truth it actually results in our current situation, not the future.

                  2. lone77star profile image82
                    lone77starposted 6 years agoin reply to this

                    Faith is far more potent than placebos. In fact, placebos may seem to work because of faith.

                    Most things in the universe depend upon natural causes, but faith trumps all such cause and effect. Creation sets the foundation upon which cause and effect take place.

        2. Druid Dude profile image61
          Druid Dudeposted 6 years agoin reply to this

          Good example. Sometimes the brain can tell you something is, reason can tell it isn't. Sometimes reason can escape you, too. Another thing about reason, is that it developed and continues on.

          1. Kyle Payne profile image60
            Kyle Payneposted 6 years agoin reply to this

            It was a extremely useful and helpful example.

            1. Druid Dude profile image61
              Druid Dudeposted 6 years agoin reply to this

              I think that controlling our now is an illusion. The illusion is fed by the world around us. To ride a wave, you don't control the wave. You become one with it. Control, if we have it at all, is momentary.

 
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