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Do you know what makes mormonism different from other religions?

  1. mio cid profile image65
    mio cidposted 5 years ago

    All religions are different in some ways ,but there's one characteristic that makes mormonism unique and that is the fact that you are introduced to the religion in a very gradual way  it's almost like concentric circles and it literally takes years until they feel you're prepared to go from one circle of knowledge to the next.Almost like a secret society in a way.

    1. Disappearinghead profile image84
      Disappearingheadposted 5 years agoin reply to this

      Slowly slowly catchy monkey!!

      Sorry I couldn't resist. No bad intended. smile

    2. getitrite profile image79
      getitriteposted 5 years agoin reply to this

      And then after years of preparation, I could be made completely brainwashed...enough to believe I possess magic underwear.

    3. A Troubled Man profile image60
      A Troubled Manposted 5 years agoin reply to this

      There's a term for that, it's called brainwashing.

      1. Shanna11 profile image91
        Shanna11posted 5 years agoin reply to this

        Yes. We are terribly, terribly brainwashed.

        We also sacrifice goats on Tuesday, and until recently, small children. Unfortunately, we were threatened with arrest, so we're just back to goats now.

        Also, if you'd like to come, bring The Princess Bride. Mormons love The Princess Bride.

        I don't though, which means the brainwashing may not quite have worked there...

        1. A Troubled Man profile image60
          A Troubled Manposted 5 years agoin reply to this

          Where would you get the notion brainwashing has anything to do with sacrificing goats and small children?

          Brainwashing is nothing more than the acceptance of ideals without question or thought.

          1. Shanna11 profile image91
            Shanna11posted 5 years agoin reply to this

            Oh dear.... I was joking. I always see you being so serious and grumpy. All work and no play....

            1. A Troubled Man profile image60
              A Troubled Manposted 5 years agoin reply to this

              lol <--- me being grumpy

              Yes, I know you were joking and I know you don't believe you were brainwashed.

              1. Shanna11 profile image91
                Shanna11posted 5 years agoin reply to this

                I have no idea what your face looks like at any given moment, so I take your words as a reflection of your demeanor. It's not unreasonable.

                Also, I don't believe I'm brainwashed because I don't fit your definition of brainwashed. I ask questions all the time as I've already told you, and I don't think I've ever accepted anything in my life without questioning it. Not even gravity. But on reflection, I don't think testing it was the wisest thing I've ever done.

                1. A Troubled Man profile image60
                  A Troubled Manposted 5 years agoin reply to this

                  So, you don't grant me the same reasonable reflection of you?



                  Okay, what questions do you ask about your religion and what answers do you get?

                  1. Shanna11 profile image91
                    Shanna11posted 5 years agoin reply to this

                    I'm eighteen, have mercy on me-- I have no idea what you're asking in that first question.

                    I ask the basic questions "Is this true? Is any of this true? Is God even real?" Mostly I just get the same response "You have to figure it out for yourself." So that is what I'm currently doing. Figuring it out. And annoying people with my myriad questions.

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            JaxsonRaineposted 5 years agoin reply to this

            Mormons have a silly method of trying to brainwash people then.

            Step 1 - Listen to the message
            Step 2 - Read the Book of Mormon
            Step 3 - Think about it and ask questions
            Step 4 - Pray about it

            Where in there is anything related to accepting without question or thought?

            1. getitrite profile image79
              getitriteposted 5 years agoin reply to this

              See Step 4.

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                JaxsonRaineposted 5 years agoin reply to this

                That doesn't fit with the idea of accepting something without thinking about it. Are you suggesting people would logically and intellectually not think something is right, but accept it anyway because they prayed to a God that doesn't exist?

                1. getitrite profile image79
                  getitriteposted 5 years agoin reply to this

                  But what could you possibly be thinking?  Real thinking requires critical analysis-something surely lacking in people primed for brainwashing.



                  YES...YES...YES!!!!

                  You have figured it out.

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                    JaxsonRaineposted 5 years agoin reply to this

                    Circular logic. You say Mormons are brainwashed because they don't think for themselves, and they don't think for themselves because they are primed for brainwashing.

                    Analysis of history, archaeology, and teachings of the Bible to start with.

                    Too bad, that's not how it works. You seem to have some idea of what happens when people become Mormons that doesn't fit with what I have seen.

            2. A Troubled Man profile image60
              A Troubled Manposted 5 years agoin reply to this

              Where would you get the notion there is a step 3 in religious indoctrination.

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                JaxsonRaineposted 5 years agoin reply to this

                Mormon theology teaches step 3. How is it brainwashing then? It contradicts your own definition.

            3. Philanthropy2012 profile image90
              Philanthropy2012posted 5 years agoin reply to this

              See step one. It's so obviously a con. Search for something with the knowledge that you have failed if you have not found it.

              The Loch Ness monster is not given enough credit for exactly how susceptible the human mind is to expectation. Almost everyone that visits Loch Ness seems to come back with photo's of it's evidence. All different evidence of course. It's truly magical.

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                JaxsonRaineposted 5 years agoin reply to this

                Listening to a message has nothing to do with accepting it without thought. I was asking for evidence of brainwashing.

        2. wilderness profile image92
          wildernessposted 5 years agoin reply to this

          I fear you will never get even close to Kolob unless you change your ways.

          Not even sacrificing children any more!  For shame!  You definitely need a refresher in the brainwashing class. smile

          1. Shanna11 profile image91
            Shanna11posted 5 years agoin reply to this

            I know. sad I need to humbly submit, get married and live in peace with my husband's six other wives. Maybe that will save me!

            Oh hooray! My order of Cult Garb came in. Mormons are a cult,  you know. We decided to stop spending millions and millions of dollars as a church toward humanitarian service, and instead bought each Mormon a nice set of cult clothes. We're going to seal ourselves into a cave below ground soon and not emerge until Dec 21, 2012.

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              JaxsonRaineposted 5 years agoin reply to this

              Haha. Going to camp out in the Mormon vault under the mountains between Salt Lake and Park City... I think that's where Mormons are hiding the Golden Plates too.

              Crazy water-drinkers.

              1. Shanna11 profile image91
                Shanna11posted 5 years agoin reply to this

                Yep, that about sums it up. We are demonic, brainwashed people with no sense of right or wrong. Forget educations and thinking for ourselves. Forget BYU and all that nonsense!

                Hmm. My hood's a little bit big.

                1. A Troubled Man profile image60
                  A Troubled Manposted 5 years agoin reply to this

                  No one is saying you're demonic.

                  1. Shanna11 profile image91
                    Shanna11posted 5 years agoin reply to this

                    No one here is. I've heard it before though.

                    The mother of my childhood best friend swore up and down at a school function in front of everyone else that I was a heathen child and that I was most certainly not dragging her daughter down with me. She then stormed out of the cafeteria. I think at some point she may have shrieked over her shoulder that I had the devil in me.

                    Needless to say, it was quite the friendship-ender.

                2. getitrite profile image79
                  getitriteposted 5 years agoin reply to this

                  Go right ahead and evade the real issue with flippant nonsense.  The fact of the matter is that these beliefs are absurd...just be honest.



                  Education does not exempt one from brainwashing.  This is apparent.



                  Which proves that religious beliefs are based on willful ignorance.



                  ?????????

                  1. Shanna11 profile image91
                    Shanna11posted 5 years agoin reply to this

                    I've heard this all before.... Don't you guys have anything new?

                    You're not going to change anyone's minds... you know that, right?

                    It's like abortion. People are pretty stuck in their opinions on it, and you can argue all you want, but precious few will change.

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                    JaxsonRaineposted 5 years agoin reply to this

                    What beliefs are absurd?

                    Do you believe in the OT and NT?

                    Let's talk about it smile

        3. Onusonus profile image87
          Onusonusposted 5 years agoin reply to this

          You don't like the princess bride? Back to the reeducation camps!

          Repeat after me;
          Anybody want a peanut?

    4. LewSethics profile image61
      LewSethicsposted 5 years agoin reply to this

      Their lack of a believable prophet?

  2. Madurai profile image56
    Maduraiposted 5 years ago

    Mormonism?- first time I am hearing this word..

    1. mio cid profile image65
      mio cidposted 5 years agoin reply to this

      I'm sorry, churchofjesuschristofthelatterdaysaintsiism

    2. LewSethics profile image61
      LewSethicsposted 5 years agoin reply to this

      A man named John Smith said he discovered some gold tablets that told him that native americans are the lost tribes of israel, and that John Smith is the new prophet of the lord, etc.

      1. mio cid profile image65
        mio cidposted 5 years agoin reply to this

        Joseph Smith not John

        1. LewSethics profile image61
          LewSethicsposted 5 years agoin reply to this

          Thanks, you're right.

  3. A Troubled Man profile image60
    A Troubled Manposted 5 years ago

    @Shanna11

    Found this too...

    "Walters's second find was a bill by the local constable, Philip DeZeng, dated 1826, which indicates that not only was a warrant issued for Joseph Smith's arrest but also a mittimus, which Walters believes must have been issued after the trial ordering the sheriff to escort Joseph out of the county. Walters contends that the mittimus thus proves that Joseph Smith was found guilty."

    1. Shanna11 profile image91
      Shanna11posted 5 years agoin reply to this

      So I had to look up what mittimus meant-- google says it's a "Law or warrant of commitment to prison or a command to a jailer directing him to hold someone in prison."

      Why would he be simply escorted out the county instead of jailed? Jailing him would have been a lot easier. Sounds like he wasn't found guilty, but I know nothing of the history or laws during that time period, so that's pure conjecture.

      That's interesting, thank you. Walter's is the one who researches this stuff right? Can I have the link?

      1. A Troubled Man profile image60
        A Troubled Manposted 5 years agoin reply to this

        If you had noticed, the paper indicated "Misdemeanor" which did not warrant jail time.



        Actually, it was the Tanners who spent the good part of 50 years researching Joseph Smith. Of course, leaders of the LDS outright denied everything they produced.

      2. mio cid profile image65
        mio cidposted 5 years agoin reply to this

        Isn't it amazing that nobody picked up the fact that Romney being a mormon is forbidden from betting, and his ten thousand dollar bet offer to perry is one of his most highlated moments of his campaign?

        1. Shanna11 profile image91
          Shanna11posted 5 years agoin reply to this

          I think it's just gambling, like lottery cards and slots and stuff, not necessarily betting. I could be wrong- it's generally the same principle. Betting happens, but I'm sure it's frowned upon. Just because Mormons aren't supposed to do it doesn't mean they'll follow it. It's sad, but I know plenty of Mormons who do drugs and drink, despite knowing they aren't supposed to.

  4. mio cid profile image65
    mio cidposted 5 years ago

    it is also claimed that the angel moroni came from a distant planet

  5. Mighty Mom profile image87
    Mighty Momposted 5 years ago

    Back to the OP,
    Is that the only thing that makes mormonism different from other religions?
    If an outsider looks at any religion it's going to look bizarre.
    Especially when the onlooker doesn't look below the ritual level with prejudice.

    The presumed inferiority of all other forms of worship to one's own has provoked and continues to provoke wars.
    How crazy is that!?

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    Emile Rposted 5 years ago

    I would think the main thing that makes the Mormons different is the magic underwear.

    Not to sound flippant, but I've never understood these odd sects that originated in America. There is always a  charismatic guy who starts the sect, claims supernatural knowledge or visions and builds a following. Each one of these founders are subsequently proven to be frauds, but the sect lumbers on; completely ignoring the fact that the founder lied repeatedly.

    I just don't get it.

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      JaxsonRaineposted 5 years agoin reply to this

      It's not 'magic underwear', and calling that is just a method of boosting your statement by making the topic seem more ridiculous than it really is... appeal to ridicule.

      It's a temple garment, and why is that any more ridiculous than the priestly garments of the Bible?

      'Proven' to be a fraud is subject to debate in this case.

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        Emile Rposted 5 years agoin reply to this

        Proven to be a fraud. Well, he did lie about translating the egyptian hieroglyphics. What is it the Bible says? Isn't that the test of a prophet? If he lies, he isn't a prophet of God.

        Don't take it to heart. He wasn't the first, or the last, to attempt to convince people he had a special line on God.

        And, yes. The magic underwear is different from priestly garments. Imo. But, I can see we disagree. smile

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          JaxsonRaineposted 5 years agoin reply to this

          No he didn't. You're talking about a few damaged papyrii which were only a part of a larger collection, and they weren't the ones which were claimed to be translated into the book of Abraham.

          It's not magic underwear. You are either purposefully trying to make it something it isn't or you are simply ignorant. It's a temple garment, or the garment of the priesthood. How is that different than priestly garments?

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            Emile Rposted 5 years agoin reply to this

            Well, your assessment of the debacle with the papyri is at odds with published facts. But, it is certainly acceptable to believe what you like.

            As to the underwear, I call them magic because that is what they were called when I first heard of them. That's what the Mormon kids called them. Their parents had gone to Utah to get their underwear blessed and the kids were staying over while the parents were away. It was a fascinating evening, listening to the tale.

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              JaxsonRaineposted 5 years agoin reply to this

              Published facts?

              Where are you getting your published facts? Just because you read something on the internet doesn't make it true.

              The facsimiles are in the Pearl of Great Price, but they aren't the pictures Joseph translated the Book of Abraham from. Really, do some reading on it.

              So, you not only hold on to a childish understanding of what they are, but you assert that same childish understanding as some kind of fact?

              Here, I'll do you a favor.

              http://en.fairmormon.org/Book_of_Abraha … ith_Papyri

              Joseph Smith had a lot more papyri than we have today, and it is ludicrous to say that the facsimiles in the pearl of great price are what it was translated from. The PoGP itself shows them as depicting other subjects.

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                Emile Rposted 5 years agoin reply to this

                I don't have a problem with you believing what you want. I find it a curiosity. I couldn't do it, but there is freedom of religion here.

                I do find it odd, considering your obvious belief, that you would attempt to call me childish. Kind of like the pot wishing everyone else was a black kettle. So it would feel like it fit in.

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                  JaxsonRaineposted 5 years agoin reply to this

                  It's not about my beliefs, it's just something I happen to know about. I don't like to see people misrepresenting the beliefs of others.

                  I'm saying, you accepted the childish understanding of a concept, apparently haven't bothered to figure out what the concept really is, and you pass on that same childish understanding. You admitted to it... 'it's what some Mormon children said'.

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                    Emile Rposted 5 years agoin reply to this

                    I can see the light of reality has hit a nerve. I am sorry that my  assessment of the underwear has caused you strife. But, let's be honest. It isn't a misrepresentation. It is simply not giving an odd practice the respect you, personally, have decided it deserves.  It is worn to provide protection from the evils of the world. Kind of like a talisman. A talisman is magical. Is it not?

 
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