Salvation a Mere Recitation?

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   TheAshleyDailyposted 13 years ago

   I have heard many say, confessing with your mouth & believing in your heart, and asking God to come into your constitutes you're saved. If this is all to take to be saved, why doesn't it work when I confess with my mouth & believe in my heart, I'm a millionaire, but yet my bank account still sit at $0.00?

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      mischeviousmeposted 13 years agoin reply to this

      In the end, people that choose a religious path, believe that salvation is granted not earned. No one can rescue me from this world, all I can do is learn to live with it.

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         TheAshleyDailyposted 13 years agoin reply to this

         I do believe salvation is granted not earned. And I do believe there is a God who will rescue you from this world. ...with all that aside, i just keep trying to figure out if its so easy to make a verbal confession that contains so much power that you change, then why don't other verbal confessions invoke the same response?

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            mischeviousmeposted 13 years agoin reply to this

            People can only change when they can see the problem. If I don't want to truly change, no amount of confession will change the behavior.

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               TheAshleyDailyposted 13 years agoin reply to this

               Truth! And thats exactly my point! Grasped it very well. I just want to know where this theory came from.

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                  mischeviousmeposted 13 years agoin reply to this

                  The Catholic diocese had alot to do with it. During the refermation, if one did not confess the sin of heresy openly, they were sentenced to one of many gruesome deaths. The Salem witch trials used the same tactic to weed out potential threats to the chirch and it's patrons.

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      pylos26posted 13 years agoin reply to this

      Cus ya have to pay money to buy that ticket to salvation…no cash transaction…no millionaire status.

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      kessposted 13 years agoin reply to this

      From the belief state of the heart the mouth confesses.....
      
      So whatsoever a man believes in his heart, the confession of it will come from his mouth and by such its reality is establihed.
      
      Whether it be Salvation or a million dollars....whatsoever.
      
      Where it get confused is that many interpret confession of the mouth to be be belief of the heart.. It is not quite so.
      
      
      Since the mouth is also able to confess the unbelief of the heart,
      How then can you diffrentiate one from the other?
      
      Those who care about numbers mind the multitude of words thus they are big on confessions.
      
      Those who mind the things of the heart, understand belief and unbelief, These are the ones who understands enough so that their words are effective.

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   psycheskinnerposted 13 years ago

   The difference is that 'believing in your heart' is the same as faith. It is not the same as money.

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   AngieMedinaposted 13 years ago

   Haha.  I was just asking my husband the same question sort of.  He says I have to think positive and positive things will come my way, and that I shouldn't speak negatively because negative things will come. I told him that in my life, the negative does come to pass but when I speak "positive" things, they don't come true. 
   
   It's easy to get discouraged when your bank account is not reflecting your level of faith.  What I am learning is that God is not here to grant our every wish and desire but rather we are troubled so that we can grow in our faith and become more like him.  Having money in your bank account isn't going to help you to be more like Him.
   
   I think tithing is an important way to start seeing financial growth. I'm not saying tithe to any old church, but rather giving of the little you have, because God loves a cheerful giver.
   
   Comparing salvation with money are two way different things, because salvation is supernatural and money is...well, money.

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   independentwriterposted 13 years ago

   Confessing and believing, is an act of faith that you are applying the work that God did through Calvary to your life.  This would be the start of a relationship with the son of God.  God desires for us to be with him in heaven.  He died on the cross and took the penalty for our sin.  He died so that we can live.
   
   Unfortunately confessing and believing that your bank account is going to grow astronomically because you believe it will is probably not going to happen.  Hard work, dedication, and wisdom will help you grow your bank account to acceptable levels. 
   
   Good luck, and I hope this helps.

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   TheAshleyDailyposted 13 years ago

   Loving the responses. I like to see where other people thoughts are at. Just fot clarification, I was posing the money part hypothetical, although, it would be nice to be rich.
   Reason why I ask the question is because I do that you indeed must confess with your mouth and believe in your heart, but I believe those are just first steps towards getting you to salvation-not salvation itself.
   Now my example may not have been a rich one for the point I was making, but I just don't understand how just reciting a prayer and giving God an invitation to your heart and thats all is real indictative of salvation. We recite so much everyday and lots of what we say, we mean only for a moment and the next moment we could care less. So i just don't see the real transformation with just using words...

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      independentwriterposted 13 years agoin reply to this

      When you are ready to confess and believe in the redemptive work on the cross, it is a condition of the heart.  God has to grant you Godly sorrow that leads to Godly repentence, that leads to life. You don't just wake up one morning, and say I am going to accept what God has to say.  You have to be drawn.

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   SanXuaryposted 13 years ago

   I thought this when I was young but found out it was much more then this. Becoming saved is only a first step. We invite Jesus into our life and we find out how messed up we are and he has to fix us and at the same time we have to serve his purpose. We then struggle with that battle for a while. I found that If  I read the Bible and applied Sanctuary to it that it finally made sense to me. I ask myself how does this effect my sanctuary, the sanctuary of my home and the sanctuary of others. I discovered that the recognition of sin is only the recognition of a problem that must be over come. We are first selfish because we must protect our soul. Then we find someone else to become one and build a family and finally we provide sanctuary for others. I consider each one as a level of spiritual maturity. I separate the Earthly problems from the Heavenly ones and discover that I only have challenges in my life and not problems. Tapping into Heaven first changes my complete view of the World. I think you can be saved but also believe that we have to grow every day to complete our journey to Heaven.

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