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   Marseiposted 13 years ago

   Although i have read about and know others who use this practice, I would be so 
   interesting in a hub about it.  Anyone out there game?

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      klarawieckposted 13 years agoin reply to this

      Marsei, just go ahead and write a hub about it. I'll read it.

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         Marseiposted 13 years agoin reply to this

         Thank you and I wish I knew enough to do it.  I'm still hoping that someone with more knowledge (personal knowledgge) will take it on.  It facinates me.  I read recently about birdseeds being used to make a person leave a vcinity.  Just really interesting.  Surely someone has some personal knowledge or a relative that does.
         Thanks for your vote of confidence, though!
         marsei

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            klarawieckposted 13 years agoin reply to this

            I have a related hub. I'm from Cuba and I drew up in the religion. What do you want to know?

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               Marseiposted 13 years agoin reply to this

               I will read your hub and start researching.  Might be fun.

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               Marseiposted 13 years agoin reply to this

               Klarawieck,
               I think you should write it.  You have the personal experience and could do it justice.  Here's what drew my interest.
               http://politicsmiami.com/north-miami-be … seed-plot/

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                  klarawieckposted 13 years agoin reply to this

                  That's pretty funny! I happen to live in North Miami Beach . Look, there are a lot of symbolic spells done within santeria and espiritismo, which can't really be traced to the religion itself. Like I said, they are symbolic. If you fill your hand with seeds, you'll have birds eating from the palm of your hand. It's a spell and it can probably be linked to one of the Orishas parables, but its not a religious ritual. It's spiritual in nature, very much like any Wicca ritual.
                  I remember a few years ago they had to call the bomb squad because they found a goat roaming around an apartment building with a brown bag wrapped around his neck. Lol The Americans were panicking while the Cubans were going: "No! It's not a bomb! Its for a Santeria ritual!" Well, I was glad that the goat got saved at least.
                  Marsei, I think you should write it. That way you learn about it. You're welcome to run it by me if you want to confirm that your info is accurate. I'll be happy to help.

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                     Marseiposted 13 years agoin reply to this

                     Thanks!  Let me plow through these depositions.  Hopefully there's an
                     end and I can begin to write again.  I LOVED the goat story!

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                        klarawieckposted 13 years agoin reply to this

                        Great. I look forward to it!

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      Greekgeekposted 13 years agoin reply to this

      I've studied Santeria for my mythology MA ("mythology is what we call other people's religion" -- Joseph Campbell), but I am not a practitioner. I, too, would love to see an informative hub by someone who's been raised in or converted to the religion instead of just looking in! *reads further on* ooh, Klarawieck, coming to look at what someone who really knows it has to say!
      
      I've got a soft spot for Santeria because it was such a clever way to keep one's cultural traditions alive: slaves yanked from their home using Catholic saints that matched the iconography and/or spiritual significance of their own native "saints", fusing the two. Of course, it's no longer just a secret code of the oppressed, but a beautiful, rich religion in its own right.

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         Marseiposted 13 years agoin reply to this

         Oh, God, I love Joseph Campbell! 
         
         This is what piqued my interest in Sateria if you're interested.
         
         http://politicsmiami.com/north-miami-be … seed-plot/

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   Druid Dudeposted 13 years ago

   I would also read it.

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   Marseiposted 13 years ago

   All right, guys, I'll do it.
   
   Let me start reading!  This will take a while to put a story together.  It will be interesting research, though.
   
   marsei

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      klarawieckposted 13 years agoin reply to this

      Email me with any questions. There are people out there linking voodoo and palo practices to santeria. Remember santeria was born in Cuba and its the mixture of catholicism and Yoruba religion. Good luck!

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         Marseiposted 13 years agoin reply to this

         Thanks.  I knew about Cuba, but not the mix of Catholicim and Yoruba.
         I'm sure I'll have questions!

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   LuisEGonzalezposted 13 years ago

   Its a mixture of Catholic beliefs and practices, African adaptations of Catholic beliefs and practices and creole beliefs and practices and greatly influenced by beliefs and practices of the Yoruba tribe from the country of Nigeria from where a large numbers of African slaves came from.
   
   Also adding to the mixture is that several traditional Yoruban's celebrations were held during the same days/times of the year as some Catholic celebrations.......

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   Marseiposted 13 years ago

   Thank you for this.  I'm learning a little more every day.  Hopefully, I will know enough to do
   a hub on it soon.  This is the first I have heard about the Creole beliefs being involved.
   It's very, very interesting.
   Thanks again,
   marsei

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      anancelesteposted 13 years agoin reply to this

      Do you want a first hand account or an objective perspective of the practice of Santeria?

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      anancelesteposted 13 years agoin reply to this

      There are a couple of hubs about Santeria, They have an overall explanation of their beliefs and practices. Both personal experiences and an outside perspective of this african/ catholic  religion.
      
      But if  there is something specific that you want to know or clarify, then ask away.

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         Marseiposted 13 years agoin reply to this

         Klaraweick said she has a comparable hub.  I'm going to read it and find the others you mentioned.  Thanks for that; didn't know there were any.  I'm hoping to write something that hasn't already been done, perhaps a new perspective.  Right now, the depositions are piling up so it's going to
         be a lot of editing time before I write anything.  Thanks for your help.  I may have questions as I get into it.   I enjoy your writing anaceleste, especially the poems.   marsei

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            anancelesteposted 13 years agoin reply to this

            Thanks

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   Eric Newlandposted 13 years ago

   What I really want to know...my baby.
   
   What I really want to say, I can't define.

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      Eric Newlandposted 13 years agoin reply to this

      Ok, whew, got that out of my system.
      
      Anyway, this does sound like an interesting subject. All I know about actual Santeria is what I just read in this thread.

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   klarawieckposted 13 years ago

   The slaves hid their deities (which were symbolized by rocks, metals, shells among other things) behind the imagery of Catholic saints that had similar characteristics. So when they were worshipping St. Barbara, they were in fact praying to their Orisha "Chango". But both St. Barbara and Chango (although one female and the other male) share similar symbology - the sword, the color red, the thunder and lightning. The slaves hid their deities inside ceramic soup casseroles that their owners displayed in their fancy cupboards. And since the slaves were the only ones who had the keys and access to these cupboards, their owners never knew that they were doing this. They were glad to see that their slaves were praying to the Catholic saints. Little did they know!
   My mother was a santera and a espiritista, which is very similar to being a Spiritualist in the US. I grew up in Santeria, but after my mother's death I decided it was not my path. Although I've kept my spiritualist tradition. I have written a hub on Espiritismo, which is very closely link to Santeria.
   
   And YES... what everyone wants to know... it's true... there is a lot of chicken beheading going on... which was my main reason to turn away from that practice. If I kill the chicken, I must EAT IT!

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      LuisEGonzalezposted 13 years agoin reply to this

      Arroz con Pollo.....MMmm....Delicious...............

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