Christians, How does Homosexuality have anything to do with you..

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   peeplesposted 12 years ago

   Personally that is? Since NC voters have made it clear marriage is between a man and a woman all I hear about is god made a man and a woman, It's a sin, and so on. Even if that were all true how does it have anything to do with you? Why do you care who someone else wants to marry? I don't understand!

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      HarperDavisposted 12 years agoin reply to this

      Christians are not a monolith.
      
      Muslims, Hindus, Buddhists, ect...are not a monolith.
      
      Atheists, Freethinkers, Brights, ect...are not a monolith.
      
      Some Christians feel personally invested in the issue, others do not. Some use Christianity to fuel how they feel, others do not.

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         peeplesposted 12 years agoin reply to this

         I want to make it clear I am not implying only Christians seem to feel this way, or that all Christians feel this way. In my area it is only Christians speaking out against it, and there are more Christians than any other religion in this country which is why it is directed at Christians.

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      Disappearingheadposted 12 years agoin reply to this

      I have no idea why so many Christians condemn homosexuality whilst turning a blind eye to remarriage in the church which Jesus called adultery. We may or may not accept their different views on homosexuality but certainly not the hypocrisy.

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         Druid Dudeposted 12 years agoin reply to this

         The church 'fathers' just don't want guys checkin' out their butts when they're doin' their groove thing. Besides, they want the little boys for themselves! What? You thought it was a free-for-all?

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      kessposted 12 years agoin reply to this

      Since they are in the business of saving people from the abhorance of sin it becomes neccessary part of their living to point out these situation....
      
      They are yet to learn that the world is perfect just as it is.

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      Jason Marovichposted 12 years agoin reply to this

      If the United States truly wants separation of church and state, this becomes a non-issue.  There can be no law that guarantees rights to one group, while withholding them from another.
      
      As for the spiritual, I doubt Jesus would put much stock in anything ceremonial.  His command, to love each other as we love ourselves, says it all.  How would any of us feel about being told by man, and not God, how we can or cannot love?
      
      God reserves such judgement for Himself, anyway.

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      EinderDarkwolfposted 12 years agoin reply to this

      I think Foamy The Squirrel has better perspective on it then most of the "adults" or "law" makers in this country. I find it sad that Christians claim to follow the bible, and claim that being gay is such an issue, yet they obviously don't follow the bible because they don't try to kill the gay community. This country was founded on religious freedom, yet they feel it necessary to force their religious views on others. I personally say screw it. 50% of the American Population right now thinks it's ok for Gays to be married. 47% has a problem with it, and 3% is undecided. Numbers like that means that either the federal government is going to have to step and over turn the state laws, or there will end up being another civil war over the issue.
      
      Just my 2 cents worth

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      jdflomposted 12 years agoin reply to this

      I realize you are addressing Christians, and I am an atheist so I shouldn’t be responding, but I felt compelled to express what I believe is going on and how I see it.
      
      First, in the most basic sense, their interpretation of the bible has a few quotes here and there to support the idea that homosexuality goes against Christianity as it is considered a sin – well, really it’s acting on the feelings that is the sin, not just simply having the feelings; as well as sodomy (also a sin), which I THINK most of the outspoken-anti-homosexuality Christians believe is the only way that gays have sex. And, the bible, to them, is the ultimate authority and the word of god.
      
      In addition to that, there is a flurry of misinformation going on in a lot of Christian’s heads. They feel America is a Christian-only nation, so of course what they believe should be legal and illegal comes from their xenophobic viewpoints. Because of that notion, I’m going to leap to the possibility that certain Christians feel they need to be the morality police. This has come true with certain religious politicians in power with religious agendas. Now, the question is, why make such a big deal out of just homosexuality? What about rapists, racists, murderers, adulterers, thieves or pedophiles? Or even some of the ridiculous things like shellfish or menstruation?
      
      The violent or harmful sins are already illegal and shunned upon; and the others are too ridiculous to be taken seriously and have been deemed okay or not that big of a deal – from what I have been told or have read. In addition, there are so many “interpretations,” of the bible that no one person understands everything the same way from the bible. There is some picking and choosing going on, but the bottom line is: it’s not illegal to be a homosexual. They still don’t have equal rights and liberties, though. I believe I last read that there are about 1400 things that are not equal for homosexuals in the U.S.
      
      Homosexuals are very easy targets because for some reason for some people it’s still a big deal and taboo. A certain amount of brainwashing has to happen for the amount of bigotry against homosexuals to take place, akin to the Westboro Baptist church, albeit not nearly as extreme with the hate-filled speech. Others are most likely homosexuals or bisexual/bi-curious and therefore hypocrites, but know they will be shunned if they say or act on anything and refuse to be true to themselves; and, also believe they will go to hell, so they turn into bullies, condemning it. Lastly, I believe that some Christians are just a bit overzealous and honestly believe they are helping a fellow man by informing them how wrong they are by being a homosexual. They clearly don’t understand that they have a bigoted way of thinking and likely never will.
      
      These are just my observations and opinions and I'm sure many will disagree with me. At any rate, if I go any longer, this should probably be a hub; so, I'll end it.

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         peeplesposted 12 years agoin reply to this

         You mentioned something that got me thinking. I wonder how many of these gay hating Christians practice sodomy in their straight marriages? Thanks for your input.

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            Disappearingheadposted 12 years agoin reply to this

            This is why I asked on the other thread on homosexuality just what is it about gay relationships is the problem? Is it the emotional love that's the issue, or is it the physical acts? No Christian was prepared to answer.
            
            So if anal sex between a heterosexual couple is not a sin then........

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               jdflomposted 12 years agoin reply to this

               It probably depends on which Christian you ask, some will say that it is sodomy and therefore a sin, others who are more liberal will say no.
               
               And as I've even seen on these forums and other facets of life, not all Christians believe homosexuality or gay marriage is wrong/a sin. So, there is no easy answer, unfortunately.

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      Keri OCreeneposted 9 years agoin reply to this

      Third gender person should be allowed to marry because the practice IS lawful by God and man. Here is why...

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   eternals3ptemberposted 12 years ago

   There's a concept in Christianity, "You are your Brother's keeper." So, you have a moral obligation to make sure no one in the flock deviates from the path set down by the Shepard.
   
   Naturally, those who aren't Christian could care less, but still, even they aren't allowed to leave, "according to God."

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      HollieTposted 9 years agoin reply to this

      There's a concept in Christianity, "You are your Brother's keeper." So, you have a moral obligation to make sure no one in the flock deviates from the path set down by the Shepard.
      
      Otherwise known as social control. Women, gay men and women, atheists... Muslims, etc. etc.

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   Ghaelachposted 12 years ago

   I wonder what went on in the world all those years ago before the biggest firm in the world was formed, namely the CHURCH. Did anyone give a monkeys about Homosexuality. I would have thought they where to busy trying to survive. I'm not active in this type of relationship and if they leave me a lone and don't go forcing it on other people then wtf. There are far greater problems on this planet to worry about.
   LOL Ghaelach

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      peeplesposted 12 years agoin reply to this

      Agreed!

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   Jane Errposted 9 years ago

   People should just mind their own business.

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