After the Great Flood, How Was The World Populated
Works for me.
That's nice, but that still doesn't answer the question of where did they come from?
I believe some Muslims believe Cain married his sister. Females aren't always named in lineage in the old book because they were considered lesser than the male heirs. Still are in some areas of the Middle East I believe.
But the flood myth is just that. there isn't enough water to flood the world much less hoist a theoretical ark on Ararat. The story was stolen from an earlier saga. It makes no sense at any rate.
Thanks Maita, good to see you!
Is that where the term "Ham-strung" came from?
Honestly, the ridiculous dependence on texts which were written thousands of years ago is dragging our modern world backwards. Surely we can find the intelligence to work out what is best for all of us, here and now, in this century.
When even a layman, like myself, reads those verses in Genesis 9, it's very obvious that it is speaking of families or tribes. No man can live physically for 350 years. Also it is probably metaphor, therefore not really understandable by we who do not live in that culture. The nakedness of Noah is probably a reporting of an actual incident, but after that it's used somehow as an analogy and expanded into prophesy, to include the tribes which flourished after the flood. As someone in an earlier post has said, the "World" to people of those days was all they could imagine in terms of the eastern Mediterranean.
There will be historians who can expand or correct this, I am not educated in such matters, but simply applying common sense human experience we can see the verses are not to be taken literally, certainly not for the 21st century.
Essentially, a woman could begin baring children at age 14. By the age of 24 would have 10 children, average. In fact, by that age were considered old-wombs. So, having 10 children and equally splitting boy-girl for two additional generations from Shem, Ham, Japeth would allow marriages.
Shem Ham Japheth
g1 their kin (30 offspring)
grand parent - g2 kin of g1 (3000 offspring) :probable, but unlikely
great grand parent - g3 kin of g2 (30000 offspring) :acceptable
great great grand parent - g4 kin of g3 (300,000 offspring)
great great great grand parent g5 kin of g4 (3 million offspring) **
** this would be about 50 years of lineage, respectively **
right click to view full sizeYep, almost every woman nursed their children at the time in question. JChas shows how gender may affect one's reasoning abilities. I doubt he considered the nursing aspect of the birth rate. And besides, you're pretty smart for a girl, Melissa.
I try. It helps that I was raised around so many guys. You become intelligent as a form of self defense...
As for the considering nursing and birth rate... I'm pregnant and have boobs. I use the boobs apparently for getting pregnant and NOT getting pregnant. They are versatile like that.
(Yep... TMI in response to a sexist comment
Keep going and we'll talk about menstrual cycles for the rest of the thread)Okay, Okay, no need to go there!
Offensive and defensive boobs? Wow,I never drempt...!
Hey James, how many years for the generation? 14 years? If so, 3x14? It's 42.
But, interesting post though.
I'm taking that a generation would be 14 because that would be youngest one would be able to give birth at that time. Today's day and age, they seem to be younger. Just read and article about a week or so ago that a 10 year gave birth. I don't know if that's physically possible or medically possible, unless C-section.
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LOL, took the words right out of my mouth. People continue to rationalize the Bible. It comes from those who are indoctrinated with having a subjective point of view, not an objective one. It's even worse for women.
If they were more objective, they'd see the flaws within the belief. Yet still there is a higher incidence of faith in the world. I think atheism is starting to grow more considering how those who a religious in the extreme are fighting so hard against it. Those are the ones destroying all the 'good work' out there. Frankly I just chill because non believers are in higher numbers due to the lack of 'trust' in the religious clergy.
I'm still surprised at the atrocities committed, like nuns having abortions, lesbianism, and catholic priests and pedophilia, yet people still follow. Nothing is being done to punish them on the same grounds as regular pedos in that they are convicted and put on a list so that if you look them up you'll know where they are.
It's tiresome to see the religious above the law and no justice or action taken against them because they are 'justified by God', ughh good grief!
Have you ever heard of a catholic priest step down and actually admit he did this? No! They get transferred!
MAY ALL OF YOUR BABIES BE BORN NAKED!! Just kidding too..er...not really!
- Pez! Sigh, I miss being a kid.
It was merely considered calculation, not emphatic.
Ten to fifteen kids per family was not uncommon. So, repopulation would have only taken a few generations, based on those three families. Even at 50 or 100 years, reaching 3M+ could easily happen.
Fascinating... I had not heard of that.
Now, would you thing that "nothing" force would be a negative force or a positive force.....
- We know that ancient people defined the "world" as the farthest distance that anyone could travel then get home to tell about it.
Based on that, it makes sense that the "world" did flood. The vast majority of people did not get flooded. The myth worked better when it looked like Noah and his crew were the only humans left.
The world was fine and it was populated with plenty of people.
The science is this: there are such events as "atmospheric rivers". California has had several of them where the volume of 60 Mississippi rivers was dumped on the state over rainy periods that were about 40 days long.
We recently found out about atmospheric rivers because of the NASA satellite arrays that started to catch them in operation.
Massive volumes of water are literally picked up by certain types of storms that start in Asia. Then the water dumped when the storm hits land.
We call them "pineapple express" because milder versions happen every year. But scientists expect another catastrophic atmospheric river to happen any year now. The potential is for the entire central valley of the state to flood to about 20 feet after 40 days or more of straight, heavy rains.
The last catastrophic "atmospheric river" was in the 1800s and forced the the California governor to escape from the state capitol in Los Angeles, to San Francisco. The state capital never moved back to anywhere south of Sacramento for obvious reasons.
This is the one that hit California a few years ago.
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You can always put up a fake picture as many do here. The ladies do it all of the time!
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