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It's Better for Non-Believers to be a Diest than an Atheist.

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    jah1zposted 6 years ago

    .....at least you acknowledge a Higher Power and believe that Higher Power is to Supreme to be involved with earthly matters. The Founding Fathers of the U.S. were mostly Deists. And seeing how the U.S. Constitution survived this long and held a civilization in good stead, one have to wonder how blessed the U.S. has become because of it. Not that I am a Deist but it's quite interesting the success of being a First and forging a Constitution based on that.

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      nonto21posted 6 years agoin reply to this

      A deist believes that God is dead. Get your facts straight before you speak.

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        jah1zposted 6 years agoin reply to this

        Wrong!

        Merriam Webster Dictionary---

        A movement or system of thoughts advocating a system of natural religion; emphasizing mortality.

        Denying the interference of the Creator with the Laws of the Universe.



        Get your facts straight.

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          nonto21posted 6 years agoin reply to this

          I was just corrected by another. Read through the thread at least. I admitted I was wrong, so put up or shut up. Prove to me why one is better than the other, then prove to me that it exists.

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            jah1zposted 6 years agoin reply to this

            Then blessed is he who is corrected.

            And I proved why. It's better to be safe than not believing and be condemn in the afterlife.

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              nonto21posted 6 years agoin reply to this

              Prove there's an after life.

              Do it without saying we die. We all already know that death is the end of a life, prove the after part.

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                jah1zposted 6 years agoin reply to this

                Well, considering you are an Atheist and I am a Believer, we are in conflict. We wouldn't be able advance on each others considering you have shut out anything to do with God so, whatever I say would be foreign to you. I rather debate this question with Satan than you. At least he's a Believer, therefore we'd have a "premise" to move forward on.

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                  nonto21posted 6 years agoin reply to this

                  Why would I want to move forward in your tradition? Especially when I've already found fault with it?

                  I went to bible school and was quite indoctrinated. We could have your discussion but then, it wouldn't be me you were talking to.

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                    jah1zposted 6 years agoin reply to this

                    Then if you found fault with it, therefore you understand what the afterlife is. Don't drag me into your frustration according to the way you perceive the afterlife. And if you went to a Bible school and now an Atheist, then repent!

                    Pray to God for understand. If none is given then be patience in your long-suffering and wait for it. If none is still not given, then be patience in your long-suffering to the end. Bless is he that endure to the end!

            2. nightwork4 profile image60
              nightwork4posted 6 years agoin reply to this

              what does safety have to do with it? if i don't believe in god then i don't worry or care about being safe. if i don't believe in god but play it safe, wouldn't this all-knowing god see this? wow

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      jah1zposted 6 years agoin reply to this

      My bad, my mobile phone is putting in the wrong words. In the title, I meant to spell, Deist. And in my last sentence, I meant to say...

      "Not that I am a Deist but it's quite interesting the success of being a Deist and forging a Constitution based on that."

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      Sophia Angeliqueposted 6 years agoin reply to this

      Tell me, why is it so important for people to care about what Atheists think? I really, really don't care what religious people, agnostics, or anyone else thinks about where they came from and where they're going to. It's not something I have any interest in discussing. The moment I meet someone and they start on that topic, I begin to think of ways to say good bye as fast as I possibly can.

      So what does it matter if Atheists don't believe in God??? What's the big deal?

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        jah1zposted 6 years agoin reply to this

        If you don't Believe in God, that is your choice. Disregard what "man" say to you if you tell him/her you don't believe in God. For who is he or her to judge you?  They should know better ---- "Judge not, ye not be judge."

        Other than that, you cannot say you didn't know about God. The "soul" wouldn't allow it nor have you ignorant to the truth. For life comes from God and Man became a living soul.

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          Sophia Angeliqueposted 6 years agoin reply to this

          Joh tz "Other than that, you cannot say you didn't know about God. The "soul" wouldn't allow it nor have you ignorant to the truth. For life comes from God and Man became a living soul."

          Aren't you being a bit of a hypocrite? Here are  you saying 'judge not least he be judged," but you're judging yourself. What on earth makes you think you're right and I'm wrong? Isn't that somewhat arrogant? smile I have never said, "Look, you've been told there is no God, and it's all your imagination, and you just want to believe in God because it makes you feel safe and better about life. It also makes you feel superior to those that don't believe in God, because you can believe you're special." I could have said that. I didn't.

          So what gives you the right to tell me that my soul wouldn't allow me to believe in God? Who are you to judge that?

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            jah1zposted 6 years agoin reply to this

            I'm not judging you. If I did, point out how I judge you? To judge is to condemn, right or wrong. I'm only defending the "soul" for the soul is the truth there is a God.  Your soul knows God, for it is of God and would not have you ignorant to the truth. I'm defending your soul, Sophia, not you: the flesh. Understand this.

            Other than that, I have no right to judge you in the flesh. Who am I to judge you? I am a sinner too. So, be great and peace be with you, Sophia.

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              Sophia Angeliqueposted 6 years agoin reply to this

              jahtz, you are making an assumption with no evidence that my 'soul knows God." That is religious dogma. You cannot look into my soul - whatever that is. Nor can you look into the soul of anyone else. Incidentally, I truly doubt that you can look at your own soul. How do you define soul? Where is it situated in the body?

              Jahtz, I don't know how old you are, but I'm 60, and for you to quote all this dogma (as it has been repeated to you over and over again) indicates that you are probably either a recent convert or very young. My knowledge of the bible, of Christianity, and of religion as a whole is based on 30 years solid daily experience.

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                jah1zposted 6 years agoin reply to this

                Sophia, you speak about things you do not understand. I don't have to know your soul, personally, to see that you are alive, moving about and functioning as a rational human being. Are you not?

                I only need to know that you are a Human, in the flesh. Therefore you have a soul for God breathe into the nostril of Adam and Man became a living soul. Woman came from Man therefore Woman is the mother of all living things.

                For this reason, Man should leave his parents and join to his wife and they become One. Of course Man or Woman do not have to enjoin one another for they are souls separately.

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                jah1zposted 6 years agoin reply to this

                Sophia, you speak about things you do not understand. I don't have to know your soul, personally, to see that you are alive, moving about and functioning as a rational human being. Are you not?

                I only need to know that you are a Human, in the flesh. Therefore you have a soul for God breathe into the nostril of Adam and Man became a living soul. Woman came from Man therefore Woman is the mother of all living things.

                For this reason, Man should leave his parents and join to his wife and they become One. Of course Man or Woman do not have to enjoin one another for they are souls separately.

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                  getitriteposted 6 years agoin reply to this

                  And you know this irrefutably. Right?  Lest you wouldn't say it with the silly arrogance that you do.



                  Then why don't men have vaginas?



                  Does that include other species, and plant life, as well.  Wow, I thought women were only here to perform the other half of the reproductive function of the human species.  I have been woefully misinformed.  lol lol lol

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                    jah1zposted 6 years agoin reply to this

                    I have no idea what you talking about.

        2. nightwork4 profile image60
          nightwork4posted 6 years agoin reply to this

          we don't have a soul bud so where are you getting this stuff from. an atheist, at least myself, knows god isn't real and knows a soul is just as made up as god. wow

  2. knolyourself profile image61
    knolyourselfposted 6 years ago

    "Deism (i/ˈdiː.ɪzəm/[1][2] or /ˈdeɪ.ɪzəm/) is a religious philosophy which holds that reason and observation of the natural world, without the need for organized religion, can determine that the universe is the product of an intelligent creator."

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      nonto21posted 6 years agoin reply to this

      Ah! I was misinformed. Thank you for clarifying that for me.

    2. cheaptrick profile image72
      cheaptrickposted 6 years agoin reply to this

      +1

  3. knolyourself profile image61
    knolyourselfposted 6 years ago

    Thanks for being so active. You make me think.

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      nonto21posted 6 years agoin reply to this

      It's a Saturday and it's raining. What else have I to do?

  4. knolyourself profile image61
    knolyourselfposted 6 years ago

    I'll have to take your word that is raining.

  5. knolyourself profile image61
    knolyourselfposted 6 years ago

    Believe without believing has always been my philosophy. Best of both worlds.

  6. knolyourself profile image61
    knolyourselfposted 6 years ago

    Proof is in the pudding. It is personal experience of which only the experiencee can decide whether it comprises real actual proof or not. I am the only one that saw the flying saucer. I can believe or not. But I can't prove to those of my friends who were not there.

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      nonto21posted 6 years agoin reply to this

      How can you prove it, other than saying you can? I could take your word for it but we all know what words are worth.

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    Dachapposted 5 years ago

    Read some C.S. Lewis, listen to Spiritual by Johnny Cash, and think a ton. tongue Afterwards give christianity a REAL try. Commit yourself fully to God and pursue Christ believing that He can work in you and don't be surprised if you find Him or if He finds you. The worst thing that could happen is you waste some time. In todays technologically distracted society I'm sure you've already wasted plenty. tongue Everyone loves a good Cash song anyway. big_smile

 
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