I've been watching and playing American Football for most of my life and have seen many a quarterback play the game. I can honestly say that Peyton Manning is the best I've ever seen...bar none! And I'm not even a Colts fan...unfortunately I'm a Redskin fan believe it or not we do still exist.
This has been asked already many times.
There have been many great quarter backs. There will never be a best as each generation has their own to worship.
It's just a game.
The sad question has been asked multiple times, and my same words will again come forth.
NO! He is the not the best ever to play the game. He still has a ways to go, to obtain that title.
Cagsil,
I'm curious how you rate them? I look more at how he plays the game and the result of it as opposed to stats. There are many players with great stats that you can make this assertion .
The problem is, each of the greats: Unitas, Starr, Baugh, Montana, Favre etc. Played in different eras with very different rules. NFL rules are now highly skewed to favor the offenses in order to generate fan interest.
Nevertheless, Manning is the greatest of all time simply because I say he is.
Thank you. Once again I am comforted by the fact that you disagree with me.
Have got to agree with A Texan here. .Manning is good . .you can even say great but he aint the Best of all time
But I said he is. Why are you not understanding this concept? If I say it, it is so.
P.S. I agreed with Tex a couple weeks ago on something. I'm still having nightmares.
Hey Ron, Peyton is a legend in your mind and his own. At least there is two on one side.
You are dead wrong.
I know for a fact that his mom feels that way too.
I told you about football players from Texas! Brees is an Austin boy, hell Ron, his uncle was a pretty good quarterback for Texas. Manning's from Nawlens, and that ain't Texas!
Brees may be from Texas, but he learned to play football in Indiana.
Really? He won a a class 5A State Championship in Texas, I doubt that Purdue University could do that even if they were allowed to play! Indiana, sheeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeesh
A high school championship? That's about as impressive as claiming to be the smartest guy at the TeaBaggers convention.
All right, let's just throw this out there, shall we?...Texas fans are a little biased when it comes to........TEXAS. Why don't y'all just annex yourselves and become your own damn country for crying out loud? If this happens, we may even prevent another "Bush-type" from entering the oval office! OOoooooooo.. Maybe...
Now, back to the topic...Manning is amazing, but I wouldn't want him in a clutch situation. When it comes the 'killer instinct' Montana stands on top.
And, let me throw this out there, now that I'm ranting (might as well get it all out)...Why does everyone put Bradshaw in any top list? He was a mediocre quarterback at best...with amazing hall-of-fame backs and receivers...not to mention, the Steelers probably had the best defense of all time! Hell, I can win 4 rings with that type of cast. While we are at it, let's put Troy Aikman or Trent Dilfer in there as a top 10 quarterback!...Give me a break!
"with amazing hall-of-fame backs and receivers...not to mention, the Steelers probably had the best defense of all time! Hell, I can win 4 rings with that type of cast"
No, you couldn't.
And I'm from nowhere near Texas and I'm damn proud to have my brothers and sisters there as fellow Americans, thank you very much.
"no you couldn't"
Wow, you really 'got' me on THAT one! (applause)
And I was just ranting, Sab, don't take the Texas comment personally (or seriously for that matter).
No need to apologize...It obviously struck a cord, but that wasn't my intention.
Hell, this is a sports thread. I was just giving 'A Texan' crap because he does the same thing...give people crap, that is. It's all in good fun. I'm sure if he reads my post, he'll have a response or two.
montana is the best all around qb becasue he could do it all, peyton is the best at reading defenses. Peyton is a top 3 alltime its individualised by who you think is all time best. As long as well all agree top 6 are montana unitas,peyton,favre,elway, bradshaw it doesnt matter what order there in.
Favre?
IMO, not in the Top 20 of all-time let alone Top 5.
Brett Favre is barely in the top 5 of current quarterbacks. In fact, by the time he finally does retire (permanently), Aaron Rodgers will probably knock him out of it.
Rodgers top 5 all time wtf, hes good but not that good! you must be a packer fan, i will says he's top 5 now!
I didn't say all time, I said current QB's. And you don't have to be a Packers fan to realize that they made the right decision two years ago.
He couldn't pull it off yesterday so i guess he is not the best ever.
As a Canadian who really doesnt watch NFL football that much I watched 2 absolutely great quarterbacks play last night.
Not sure what others will say but it was a tremndous game in my books.
Manning and Brees were a treat to watch. They are only human but yesterday they were something else.
Many will say Manning lost the game by throwing the interception but I think the Saints won the game with the onside kick.
Kudos goes to you Americans because after last nights game I will be watching more NFL football from now on.
Cheers
Dale
He's obviously not anymore... since he couldn't *best* the Saints!!
Can I state he is the best of this generation of football players? How about that? Do you think that is fair?
He probably is. Look at what the Colts were before Peyton. Look at how the Colts play now when Peyton isn't leading the offense. I think Peyton makes everyone around him look better than they are, and not vice versa. The major exception is Jeff Saturday, who I consider one of the best centers of all time, with or without Peyton Manning.
He made it a lot harder to make that case with the way the Super Bowl ended.
Im sorry, but how you think he the best when he only got one super bowl ring. There's terry bradshaw and joe montana that have 4 rings then you got tom brady and troy aikman that have 3. I know that he's good and will be one the greatest now and when he decides to step away from the game.
ok for one there is Bart Starr - The only quarterback in history who has a ring for every one of his fingers on his throwing hand
and yes then we must go back to Texas. . .and Roger Staubach who took a team that lost 5 playoff games in 5 straight seasons. In his first year at the helm he turned the Cowboys into a championship team and it was then that Dallas became. . . “America’s Team” .
Peyton has one superbowl ring. . .and it took him 8 seasons to get it.
Great point, Shari. Let me also include Johnny Unitas:
* Super Bowl Champion (V) (1970)
* 2x NFL World Champion (1958, 1959)
* NFL 75th Anniversary All-Time Team
* NFL 1960s All-Decade Team
* 10× Pro Bowl selection (1957, 1958, 1959, 1960, 1961, 1962, 1963, 1964, 1966, 1967)
* 6× First-team All-Pro selection (1957, 1958, 1959, 1964, 1965, 1967)
* 1× Second-team All-Pro (1963)
* 1× Second-team All-Conference (1970)
* 3× AP NFL MVP (1959, 1964, 1967)
* 3× UPI NFL MVP (1959, 1964, 1967)
* 2× NEA NFL MVP (1957, 1967)
* 3× Pro Bowl MVP (1959, 1960, 1963)
* 3× Bert Bell Award (1959, 1964, 1967)
* 1970 NFL Man of the Year Award
* Colts #19 retired
Sorry. I didn't feel like writing all of this out
You stuck your finger up your ass and pulled this gem out
"All right, let's just throw this out there, shall we?...Texas fans are a little biased when it comes to........TEXAS. Why don't y'all just annex yourselves and become your own damn country for crying out loud? If this happens, we may even prevent another "Bush-type" from entering the oval office! OOoooooooo.. Maybe..."
Why wouldn't I be a fan of Texas? Its obvious you are quite jealous of the fact that you are not a Texan, and just so you know, George W Bush was born in Connecticut and educated at the best schools the N. East has to offer! So sorry about your luck, but no need to continue whining.
haha...true true, 'A Texan'...I do whine, I'll admit to that...but don't try to pawn Bush as a Northeast brat because of where he was born or where he went to school (btw, he did go to public school in Houston for a couple of years). He was governor of Texas and owned the freakin Rangers (great team there, btw!). And, he currently lives in Texas!..face it, man, he's Texan...he's all yours! We don't want him!
In my opinion he has been the most consistent over the last number of years. If I owned the team I would definitely want him or Tom Brady to build a team around.
Well, albeit this is a matter of opinion, there are many facts leading to my conclusion that Peyton IS "ONE" of the best QB's of all time. I couldn't state conlusively that he is the best however, because he didn't win the last super bowl. IF he would have won by a landslide I'd have more evidence, but as of right now he is only on my LIST of great QB's along with Brett Favre, John Elway, Joe Namath, and so forth. I can't right now honestly say that he is above any of those QB's, but he is right along side them as of right now, come a few years down the road, however, I may be singing a different tune.
I think I used to think so until I heard him utter words like, "I treally thought we were the better team. I thought we were going to win..." (paraphrased!)at an interview after he and his team lost....
After that I thought good for the Saints for winning. They deserve the honor!
He's not even the best quarterback right NOW. He has great skills but comes up short in some big games. I would still say Tom Brady is the best right now.
Then why can't Brady beat Manning (either one)? It's been a while.
Brady didn't play in 2008 due to injury. He beat Peyton in 2007. Besides, I measure greatness by winning the BIG ONE. Brady has won more big games.
Peyton Manning has some of the most impressive statistics for any NFL quarterback but as far as labeling him the best quarterback ever, that is ridiculous. He has choked many times throughout the playoffs and is constantly surrounded by amazing offensive talent. Amazingly talented / awesome numbers? Yes. Best ever? Hardly.
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