At what point (HubScore) does the nofollow tags take effect?

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Welcome to HubPages. I think you can start with any subject you like. There are not many Hubs here on Music lessons. So I think it will be a good start. All the best.

darkside wrote:

At what point (HubScore) does the nofollow tags take effect?

Currently we apply a nofollow meta tag to hubs with a HubScore below 40, but we may adjust this threshold in the future.

For the uninitiated, basically the nofollow meta tag tells the search engine that we do not vouch for the links on the page.  It does not prevent a page from being indexed, or (to my knowledge) penalize a pages position in the index.

There is some debate in the web master community as to whether a nofollow meta tag (as opposed to adding rel="nofollow" to a link)  prevents the passing of "link juice".   My belief is that, at least for google, it does.

I have some unpublished titles which were not published before. I am currently working on them and I intend to publish them soon. Even though the default score is 50 for all the new Hubs, I can see that the Hubscores of these unpublished Hubs are below 40(in some cases). Why is this so and will it also be tagged with a nofollow tag when I finally publish it. Thanks Paul.

I've also noticed that the hubscore of hubs not yet published drop dramatically--that's why I gather all of my information in another forum before creating a hub I wasn't sure if it would affect the score once it was published.

Hubscores are recalculated frequently, and the past score has no effect on the new score.  So, I wouldn't worry about low scores on unpublished hubs.  Soon after you publish them they will have a new score assigned.

My U.K. Theme Park Hub has fallen from 96 to 17. I have deleted some duplicate content and links....how long will it take for my score to improve?

Paul, is it possible to add a dohicky of some kind to let us apply nofollow to outgoing links as we build pages. I always use them on affiliate links on my own sites and I'd be happy to use them here as well.

pauldeeds wrote:

For the uninitiated, basically the nofollow meta tag tells the search engine that we do not vouch for the links on the page.  It does not prevent a page from being indexed, or (to my knowledge) penalize a pages position in the index.

There is some debate in the web master community as to whether a nofollow meta tag (as opposed to adding rel="nofollow" to a link)  prevents the passing of "link juice".   My belief is that, at least for google, it does.

I disagree with you, Paul. The meta tag prevents robots from spidering new links, while rel="nofollow" prevents link juice from passed to that URL. Details can be found here on Wikipedia, here on robots.txt and here on Googleblog. There are a whole lot more referrences out there...

So, at the moment, I'm still getting link juice from my Hub with a score of 2. If you're really not convinced, then you should implement both here at HubPages, so that it can't be used for PageRank or new links.

Jason or Paul,

Yesterday I asked why my Hub went from a score of 99 (2 days ago) to 27. I explained that ALL the content on my site is fresh, original content that was written specifically for this Hub and does not appear anywhere else on the Internet.

I was told that the reason for the drop was that I had too many links pointing to the same URL. In light of that I have removed all the links from my Hub, yet my score now hovers between 26 and 33.

Why is my Hub being penalized?

Thanks for the answers Paul!

I'm basing my belief primarily on this Matt Cutts interview.

http://battellemedia.com/archives/002917.php

Matt Cutts wrote:

The W3C decided to add a "INDEX, NOFOLLOW" meta tag to their sponsor page, which has the benefits that the sponsor page can show up in search engines and that users receive nice static links that they can click on, but search engines are not affected by the outlinks on that page. All of these approaches are perfectly fine ways to sell links, and are within our quality guidelines.

I see in the pages that you linked to affirmation that rel="nofollow" in a link does not pass juice, but they don't say explicitly that the meta tag nofollow does not have the same effect.

Morgan Hamilton wrote:

I was told that the reason for the drop was that I had too many links pointing to the same URL. In light of that I have removed all the links from my Hub, yet my score now hovers between 26 and 33.

Why is my Hub being penalized?

Some of the components of HubScore refresh more slowly than others.  Since it takes considerable resources to scan and analyze the internal content of a hub (when you have to do 30,000+ of them), it can take 48 hours or more for changes to be reflected.  Be patient the score will update.

Fair enough Paul... thanks for your speedy response.

One final question:

Does using the RSS and News capsules trigger duplicate content red flags or are they excluded in your algorithm?

Does using the RSS and News capsules trigger duplicate content red flags or are they excluded in your algorithm?

They are excluded.

gaylemart wrote:

Paul, is it possible to add a dohicky of some kind to let us apply nofollow to outgoing links as we build pages. I always use them on affiliate links on my own sites and I'd be happy to use them here as well.

That's a good idea, we'll throw that into our feature queue.

pauldeeds wrote:

I'm basing my belief primarily on this Matt Cutts interview. http://battellemedia.com/archives/002917.php

You missed off the sentence that immediately preceded the bit you quoted:

Matt Cutts wrote:

You could add the rel="nofollow" attribute to a link, which tells search engines that you can't or don't want to vouch for the destination of a link.

Meanwhile, Wikipedia says:

Wikipedia wrote:

nofollow is a misnomer in this case since it actually tells a search engine "Don't score this link" rather than "Don't follow this link." This differs from the meaning of nofollow as used within a robots meta tag, which does tell a search engine: "Do not follow any of the hyperlinks in the body of this document."

This perhaps doesn't really answer the real meaning of the NOFOLLOW meta tag, and there is a lot of confusion and mis-information on the web. It's impossible to prove too. I would err on the side of caution, and stick with the documented effect of rel="nofollow".

For right now, my individual Hub Page scores have remained pretty steady, maybe dropping a point or two. However, overnight my individual total Hub Score has dropped almost 20 points! And just when I was getting close to that coveted 95+ score.

I don't understand- I've been consistently adding hubs, getting decent amounts of comments, have hubs rated up, and my traffic is higher than it's ever been. Yesterday I had a hub with traffic that was pretty impressive- the highest traffic day I've ever had for a single Hub.

Why such a dramatic overnight drop? Is it because my Hubs are mostly informational links to other websites?

Angela you won't believe it. I brought 300000 hits for one of my hubs. And it is rated below 30 now!!! Can anyone explain it. I was the first to break it here, I mean the news or whatever. I feel hurt. and disappointed. Something isn't right