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I'd like on my Hub: - To who who ban phone use - by Preston Brock

  1. imortalone profile image60
    imortaloneposted 6 weeks ago

    Hi Hubbers,

    I'd like some help with passing the Quality Assessment Process. Will you please give feedback on my Hub Politics - To those who try and ban phone use - by Preston Brock (must be signed in to view). What can I do to improve? Thanks!

    1. theraggededge profile image93
      theraggededgeposted 6 weeks ago in reply to this

      It's a personal opinion piece and really should be in a blog, not a magazine site like HubPages. It's also in the wrong category - 'Capitalism'.

      Your title is not really a title. https://hubpageshelp.com/content/Learni … ndly-Title

      Big blocks of text should be broken up and some relevant, legal-to-use images included.

      As far as the content is concerned, I expect you will have a hard time to get the parents and relatives of people killed by careless phone-using drivers to agree with you. And I see no mention of the number of people who are the victims of distracted-by-phone drivers. Have you done any research on the statistics? http://www.icebike.org/texting-and-driving/

      Personally, I think if a cell-phone ban at the wheel (as in the UK) saves one life then it's worth it. What could possibly be so important that a person is unable to park up to use their phone? Pokemon Go? http://www.getreading.co.uk/news/readin … h-12002142

      1. imortalone profile image60
        imortaloneposted 6 weeks ago in reply to this

        Well miss. There are paragraphs. The text is broken up. As for the title... I don't want the same title as you. There are millions of tittles...

        Yes I have seen the statistics. I've been in driving school.

        1. imortalone profile image60
          imortaloneposted 6 weeks ago in reply to this

          But I can meet the standard requirements for the title. Its not a big deal. I'll revise.

          1. imortalone profile image60
            imortaloneposted 6 weeks ago in reply to this

            I just used my photos title and moved the other title down to a subtitle.

    2. firstcookbooklady profile image81
      firstcookbookladyposted 6 weeks ago in reply to this

      I looked at the page. I agree with the points you stated. Why ban phones when people are just as distracted by radios, other drivers, etc. However, when I do a page, I try to complete the suggested works offered by Hubpages.. the progress check marks... Which is multiple texts, several photos. I use snipping tool if I google something... use a picture of my search... You have one paragraph. One photo.

  2. SmartAndFun profile image91
    SmartAndFunposted 6 weeks ago

    You asked, theraggededge answered. She is giving you good advice. If you take that advice, you might see your article published. HP has certain requirements; don't take it personally.

    You might also run your article through a grammar checker. I see lots of little typos, for example, "day in age" should be "day and age," "should-not" should be "should not" or "shouldn't," "self driving cars" should be "self-driving cars," etc. There are missing commas here and there, etc.

    I think it would also help to take your name out of the title.

    Best of luck to you.

    1. imortalone profile image60
      imortaloneposted 6 weeks ago in reply to this

      Thanks for the comment guy.
      But I did say I would change the title.

      As for spelling. Those suggestions are extremely minor. Some people think shouldn't isn't an appropriate word for essays too. It's a sort of matter of opinion. Like yourself I think, 'shouldnt' is correct. If there's a - between two word instead of a _. The world isn't coming to an end.. I am not an English teacher. Just trying to post the issue.

      1. psycheskinner profile image80
        psycheskinnerposted 6 weeks ago in reply to this

        If you want more feedback, lose the attitude.  Use the advise or don't use the advice, but skip complaining about or critiquing it.

        1. imortalone profile image60
          imortaloneposted 6 weeks ago in reply to this

          Well it's not new advice. I get it all the time and I use the same sort of answers. As replies.. Basically, I'm saying the grammar isn't that bad even if you need to grade it by the highest standards. I probably get a C and I'm good with that.

          In addition by the time it would take to go through and edit everything I have written I could have wrote quite a few more articles... Instead of trying to debate the most proper way to write the two words, 'should not'. That whole thing is for the professional English professors to debate about..

          Perhaps finally, this is just a professional online site... it's not like I am submitting something to the New York Times..

          1. psycheskinner profile image80
            psycheskinnerposted 6 weeks ago in reply to this

            If you get a gift you don't like, you don't explain to the giver why it was crap and they are dumb.  You quietly get rid if it while they aren't looking.  That is, if you want anyone else to give you any gifts in the future. 

            (Or maybe you keep it in a cupboard somewhere.  I have been given a lot of stuff I didn't appreciate at the time but turned out to be super useful later.)

            The reason you keep having to discuss advice you don't like is because you keep posting about it.  Focus on what you can use, and ignore the rest, and the thread will work better for you.

          2. theraggededge profile image93
            theraggededgeposted 6 weeks ago in reply to this

            Why am I not surprised? You sound like someone who has a closed mind and doesn't want to learn because you think you know it all already.

            1. imortalone profile image60
              imortaloneposted 6 weeks ago in reply to this

              Are you talking about the article? About protecting people's rights against authorities or the common grammar argument? That relates to how people are strict and closed minded about little things in Grammer such as the word: shouldn't?

            2. imortalone profile image60
              imortaloneposted 6 weeks ago in reply to this

              (I'm not sure if my comment posted) Are you referring to the article about protecting people's rights against authorities? Or are you referring to the grammar topic on this thread? About how people are to strict and closed minded about words such as: shouldn't.

              1. theraggededge profile image93
                theraggededgeposted 6 weeks ago in reply to this

                Look up to the top right corner - click 'Chronological'. Then you will see who is responding to what.

                1. imortalone profile image60
                  imortaloneposted 6 weeks ago in reply to this

                  Umm?

                  1. psycheskinner profile image80
                    psycheskinnerposted 6 weeks ago in reply to this

                    What part of that didn't you understand?  Using chronological view prevents one from getting confused about who posted about what.

      2. SmartAndFun profile image91
        SmartAndFunposted 6 weeks ago in reply to this

        I get what you're saying that these are minor issues, but yet these minor issues will keep your piece from being published. A C might be good enough for you, but HP wants it to be better than that. Again, these are HP's standards. If you don't want to follow their rules, you can publish your work elsewhere. No big deal.

        If you don't want help with your article to get it published, you shouldn't have posted it here, asking for help to get it published.

        1. imortalone profile image60
          imortaloneposted 6 weeks ago in reply to this

          I posted it to see why it wasn't published yes. I also have left my 2 cents because those little things in my opinion is an out dated rule that this site follows.

          1. SmartAndFun profile image91
            SmartAndFunposted 6 weeks ago in reply to this

            K

            1. imortalone profile image60
              imortaloneposted 6 weeks ago in reply to this

              Yes. After all this site is definitely not an A+ article site like the New York Times. If I was grading. Many of these articles from what I have viewed do not have original content in their article. As for originality this site would get a C.

              1. sallybea profile image97
                sallybeaposted 6 weeks ago in reply to this

                If I were you I would take the advice which was so generously and freely given and download the free Grammarly app and change the hub where indicated.

                1. imortalone profile image60
                  imortaloneposted 6 weeks ago in reply to this

                  Didn't know there was an app that just fixes all supposed spelling errors.. Ill check into that right now. Since I haven't gotten around to fixing this yet.

              2. SmartAndFun profile image91
                SmartAndFunposted 6 weeks ago in reply to this

                Yet they will not publish your work...

                1. imortalone profile image60
                  imortaloneposted 6 weeks ago in reply to this

                  Well this is the questionable point that I raised in this discussion. Smartandfun. Why worry soooo much if a _ or a - is used. People actually worry about it sooo much it's the difference between publishing something or not..

                  1. Marisa Wright profile image92
                    Marisa Wrightposted 6 weeks ago in reply to this

                    The reason is that if you write badly, your articles will get lost in the millions of other articles online and no one will ever see it.

                    Over 90% of visitors to HubPages come from Google search results.  So, if you want to get readers on HubPages, your Hub needs to be included in those search results.  Google runs spelling and grammar checkers over articles before deciding whether to include them or not. So, continue on your current path and your articles will never make it into the SERPS and no one will ever read your work. 

                    If you don't mind writing articles no one will see, that's up to you.

                  2. psycheskinner profile image80
                    psycheskinnerposted 6 weeks ago in reply to this

                    So, decide if you want to make the changes you need to, to get published. We can help you do that.
                    Or if you are in fact not going to use this site.  One or the other, dude.

              3. psycheskinner profile image80
                psycheskinnerposted 6 weeks ago in reply to this

                Look, if this site isn't good enough for you, don't participate.  That's your choice.  If it is, conform to the style requirements of the site.  That's all there is to it.

                1. imortalone profile image60
                  imortaloneposted 6 weeks ago in reply to this

                  I think the conversation flew over your head... No offense.
                  However i'm not some A + writer.

  3. theraggededge profile image93
    theraggededgeposted 6 weeks ago

    From the OP's profile, "I dont like this site. It is filled with to much censorship and malware..."

    I presume he's referring to HubPages. It makes me wonder why he's bothering to attempt to write here?

  4. calculus-geometry profile image87
    calculus-geometryposted 6 weeks ago

    Mort, I think your frustration stems from your belief that only a site like the NYT can set and enforce quality standards for its contributors.  But, in fact, any website that accepts submissions can set whatever standards the owner wants.  We are all well aware that HP is not the NYT.   You could start a site called Mort Alone's Thoughts and require that all submissions contain a minimum of ten spelling errors.  Your site, your rules. 

    You can save yourself a lot of stress by publishing these articles on your own blog.  On your profile page I see you already have a YouTube channel, so why not convert these articles to videos and publish them there?

    Also, I am not sure how old you are, but HP requires that contributors be at least 18.

    1. imortalone profile image60
      imortaloneposted 6 weeks ago in reply to this

      That second paragraph is the most ridiculous thing I've read all week.

      1. calculus-geometry profile image87
        calculus-geometryposted 6 weeks ago in reply to this

        k

  5. Marisa Wright profile image92
    Marisa Wrightposted 6 weeks ago

    I notice he's ignored my post.

    1. imortalone profile image60
      imortaloneposted 6 weeks ago in reply to this

      Just didn't have anything to say. I am online right now.

      1. imortalone profile image60
        imortaloneposted 6 weeks ago in reply to this

        Okay, so I thought about it... And I think articles just get lost anyways.. I am not a google programmer or anything like that...

        1. Marisa Wright profile image92
          Marisa Wrightposted 6 weeks ago in reply to this

          No, they do not disappear.   I have articles that are still getting lots of visitors, eight years after they were first published. 

          We achieve that by understanding the craft of writing, AND understanding how the internet works.  It sounds like you just want to throw your opinions out there, and you're not willing to do the work to learn how to get them noticed.  That's fine, but it does mean your articles will never be good enough to get published here. 

          I get the feeling you don't care, and the only reason you're here is to highlight how "ridiculous" HubPages' rules are.  You're not succeeding in that, honestly, because most Hubbers are writers who care about the English language and find your arguments juvenile.

          1. imortalone profile image60
            imortaloneposted 6 weeks ago in reply to this

            Well the oldest writing I have Online is only a couple years old at best

            Umm made the site like months ago and as a result have gained the knowledge while taking to you 3-4 people that the sites rules are very strict for little reason. 

            I'm sure the 2 articles would have over 1000 views by now. If not separately then added together. if they were allowed to be viewed. That's a lot of people if you ask me and that's it.

            1. psycheskinner profile image80
              psycheskinnerposted 6 weeks ago in reply to this

              This site is what it is.  You take part or you don't.

            2. theraggededge profile image93
              theraggededgeposted 6 weeks ago in reply to this

              1000 views on two brand new hubs? No. Not unless you could tap into some magical social media stream that was supremely interested/moved/inflamed by your topics. Given what they are - nah.

              Edit: you are not the first newbie to come in here stating that you know better and HubPages is wrong. Like all the others, you will give up because you haven't got the determination to show us that you can write a decent hub or 50. Unless....?

              1. psycheskinner profile image80
                psycheskinnerposted 6 weeks ago in reply to this

                Well he could start his own site, live up to his claims there, and that would totally show us.  But until then I'll go by what I've seen happening online for the last 20 years, and on this site 6 years.

                1. imortalone profile image60
                  imortaloneposted 6 weeks ago in reply to this

                  You two have the attention span of a rat.. why don't you two talk to each other else where. This is supposed to be about this hub.

                  1. Marisa Wright profile image92
                    Marisa Wrightposted 6 weeks ago in reply to this

                    It started out as being about this Hub, but by your atttitude, you've made it all about you.

                  2. psycheskinner profile image80
                    psycheskinnerposted 6 weeks ago in reply to this

                    Rats have attention spans and episodic memory that is better than humans, as it happens. Using abstract language reduces both abilities.

  6. Will Apse profile image91
    Will Apseposted 5 weeks ago

    I think you should change your name to Preston Block.

  7. SmartAndFun profile image91
    SmartAndFunposted 4 weeks ago

    I realize this entire thread is basically hopeless and Preston is perhaps simply trolling, but for posterity, I want to add the main reason why correct punctuation and grammar is required here, despite this site being well below the professional status of the New York Times.

    Preston, it is because of Google. Those of us (HP admin is included in this group) who want our pages to be found and read by the public -- as opposed to our articles simply existing online for the sake of being posted online -- are slaves to Google. Google sends most of us the bulk of our traffic. What Google says goes, and Google wants correct spelling, punctuation and grammar; therefore HP requires correct spelling, punctuation and grammar. It is as simple as that. I should have mentioned this sooner. My apologies for not doing so.

    The success of this site is dependent largely upon Google. Each article here which contains poor spelling, punctuation and grammar lessens the chances of all other articles here being successful. Years ago this wasn't so much the case, and you can still find plenty of poorly written articles from the old days, although there is at least some effort going on by HP to get these removed. There were so many poor articles posted in years gone by that finding and removing them a huge task, which is taking years. If you find poorly written material on this site, please flag it for removal.

    If you're not concerned about gaining readership from Google or other search engines, you'll be better served posting your work elsewhere.

    1. sallybea profile image97
      sallybeaposted 4 weeks ago in reply to this

      +++

    2. Marisa Wright profile image92
      Marisa Wrightposted 4 weeks ago in reply to this

      I said the same thing on his other thread, though I didn't have the patience to explain it so thoroughly and politely!

      1. SmartAndFun profile image91
        SmartAndFunposted 4 weeks ago in reply to this

        LOL. It was a rainy Sunday morning, I was sitting at the kitchen table with a full cup of coffee, and I was looking for any excuse not to deal with the huge pile of dirty laundry in the next room.

        I'm sure this post is pointless anyway. lol

        1. Marisa Wright profile image92
          Marisa Wrightposted 4 weeks ago in reply to this

          You've just summed up why I spend so much time on these forums.  Avoidance!

          1. SmartAndFun profile image91
            SmartAndFunposted 4 weeks ago in reply to this

            lol

            Just about anything is better than mopping the floor!

 
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