What is up with all the red lines?

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   JoannaBlackburnposted 6 years ago

   I got back on here this evening and all of my article titles are underlined red, so I did a violation check and it came back no violations.  I'm looking around for answers and I am seeing an overwhelming amount of red lines.  The red color messes with my eyes and makes it hard to read, so what could be causing all these red underlines?  Is anyone else having this issue?

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      Christy Kirwanposted 6 years agoin reply to this

      Thanks for your feedback, everyone! We have removed the red underlining.

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         TIMETRAVELER2posted 6 years agoin reply to this

         Kristy:
         
         Please go back to the old format.  This one just does not work for me, and I suspect it doesn't work for other people either.  Takes too much time to find info.  Not fun!

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         JoannaBlackburnposted 6 years agoin reply to this

         Thank you for letting us know.

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         Glenn Stokposted 6 years agoin reply to this

         No Christy.  The red titles on green background are still there for the column headings when you sort any column. This is impossible to see for colorblind people. And when I try to read it burns my eyes.
         
         It was only fixed for the hub titles.

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         sallybeaposted 6 years agoin reply to this

         What was the reasoning behind these changes?  Personally, I think the 'Legend' looks much better full width across the page.

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            makingamarkposted 6 years agoin reply to this

            Agreed - and at the top it would be even more useful! I've always wonder how many hubbers with lots of hubs never ever realise it's there!

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      Matt Wellsposted 6 years agoin reply to this

      The orange underlines in your account statistics page have been removed. They lines indicated the article titles were links, not errors.

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   Glenn Stokposted 6 years ago

   They changed the format. But I have the same problem with red as you do. I'm red/green colorblind. It also happens when I try to change the sort on any column. The column title becomes impossible to see against the grey background (or is it a green background?).
   
   That was a bad move and I hope HubPages fixes this. The color combination was a bad choice. Red/green Colorblindness is a common thing, mostly among men.

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      wildernessposted 6 years agoin reply to this

      Glen, my column titles are white on a green background.  The only red is the underline where there is a link.

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         Glenn Stokposted 6 years agoin reply to this

         Click the titles to sort any column and you'll see what I'm talking about.

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            Jean Bakulaposted 6 years agoin reply to this

            There's a black pencil in front of all the titles, I guess to edit the hub? I don't like the colors. The headings are the light teal and orange that I never liked in the niche sites. They are too light to be titles, they need to be darker or bolder, even if they keep the odd colors. They don't look right on a site that is trying to become more serious.
            
            And if these colors trigger color blindness as Glenn says, they need to be changed anyway.

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               Glenn Stokposted 6 years agoin reply to this

               Jean, I was actually talking about the column titles. Not the hub titles. They disappear for colorblind people when you sort by column. I think not many people know you can sort by any column info.
               
               Nevertheless, I agree with what you said about the new color scheme in general.

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            wildernessposted 6 years agoin reply to this

            Got it!  Mousing over the title turns it red on a green background.  Couldn't be worse, could it?

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      Marisa Wrightposted 6 years agoin reply to this

      Since this post is in the section of the forum not monitored by staff, maybe you need to report that problem formally in one of the staff-monitored sections?  It's important as you're far from the only color blind person in the world!

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         Glenn Stokposted 6 years agoin reply to this

         Thanks Marisa, I just followed up here with whomever started this thread. I'll bring it to the attention of staff.

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            JoannaBlackburnposted 6 years agoin reply to this

            Thank you, I haven't figured out where to go to post for the staff.

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               Glenn Stokposted 6 years agoin reply to this

               "Technical Questions Discussions" is the place the staff monitors. I notified the team about this forum, so we'll see what they say about all this.

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               makingamarkposted 6 years agoin reply to this

               @JoannaBlackburn - which says a whole lot, methinks, about how effective the new navigation is for users!

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      TIMETRAVELER2posted 6 years agoin reply to this

      I think the whole thing was a bad move.  I'm having a lot of problems navigating this section.  Wish they would change it back asap.  Don't like it at all.

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         Glenn Stokposted 6 years agoin reply to this

         I agree 100%.  Now I find myself wasting time searching for links to get around. The forum link is the worst. It's Ike HubPages doesn't want people using their forums anymore.
         
         And the notifications pull down tab is no longer available on the new formatted pages. This is sorely missed.

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            ChristinSposted 6 years agoin reply to this

            Yep, this whole thing is the pits - not pleased at all with how it looks, how it doesn't line up and how hard it is to navigate now.

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            makingamarkposted 6 years agoin reply to this

            One can't help but think this design was:
            - designed and coded by people who don't have a clue about how people operate their accounts!
            - NOT beta tested with hubbers who actually use HubPages!

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   MEDerbyposted 6 years ago

   Mine are all underlined in red as well.

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   Dana Abbottposted 6 years ago

   Hi! My articles all have the same red underline. I am new to the site so I am wondering what this means. Can anyone enlighten me? Thank you in advance!

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   threekeysposted 6 years ago

   Me too! All my article titles are underlined in red. Can anyone explain?

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   jansharesposted 6 years ago

   It looks unfinished. Maybe it's a trial run.

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      jansharesposted 6 years agoin reply to this

      Scrolling makes me dizzy. Maybe it's me. I've never gotten used to the new color scheme of the niche sites. I feel like I have to squint so I don't miss anything.

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         jansharesposted 6 years agoin reply to this

         Glad to see it's not just me.

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   Mamertoposted 6 years ago

   I first thought I have a violation when I saw the red line. But then it's just the change of format.

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      JoannaBlackburnposted 6 years agoin reply to this

      Thank you, I'm glad it wasn't just me.  I have only been on here for two months and am still finding my way around.  I just spend most of my time writing.

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      makingamarkposted 6 years agoin reply to this

      No - it's just the total lack of explanation in the legend down the bottom - and the failure to announce the new dashboard.
      
      It's as if somebody hit the "publish" button and then went on holiday....

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   Misfit Chickposted 6 years ago

   I've suggested the same few things - especially the colors, yikes. The red underlines are kind of annoying. What is it about that teal color? I really don't like it - LoL!
   
   They seemed to also have narrowed the columns - I suddently have a bunch of paragraphs with hanging 'widows' - neat.
   
   They keep going without hearing as if they know exactly what they are doing. *shrug*

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      Jean Bakulaposted 6 years agoin reply to this

      And once Hubpro has passed through, can't they get rid of those green pencils? Apparently I don't proofread as well as I thought I did. It just clutters up the page.

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   makingamarkposted 6 years ago

   I'm less bothered about the red lines.
   
   I'm more bothered by the fact that a dashboard which was actually speedy to use now seems to be much more difficult to use.
   
   I particularly dislike the changes to the topline menu - it would appear somebody has lost sight of drop down menus....

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      theraggededgeposted 6 years agoin reply to this

      Yes, where's the link to the forums? I can see it on from the earnings tab, but not from the main account page.

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         makingamarkposted 6 years agoin reply to this

         You wait - the earnings tab will be redesigned next!

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         Glenn Stokposted 6 years agoin reply to this

         The forums link is all the way down at the bottom now after you click MORE. It's as if they want to lower the importance of the forums. Sure looks that way! I hope not.

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    Uzma Shaikposted 6 years ago

    I'm new to this site and seeing the red lines i am wondering what this means, and i have noticed that all the links are probably marked as red and it kind of causes disturbance while reading.

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    pen promulgatesposted 6 years ago

    All my articles in my account section show the red lines.

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    makingamarkposted 6 years ago

    I'm not sure why people are asking the question about the red lines....
    
    The red lines are LINKS - that's the new design convention on the HubPages website
    
    It means that there is a live link to the site of that hub for editing purposes.
    
    Personally I think it might be helpful to some to have some sort of distinction made between hubs which are LIVE AND PUBLISHED and  hubs in draft / needs an edit (as we used to have)

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       JoannaBlackburnposted 6 years agoin reply to this

       The reason I asked, is because its not just on the links.  Even when I log out, I find read lines that weren't there before.  Before yesterday there was no red lines under my titles, but are now that my traffic is increasing.  I just wanted to make sure I hadn't done something wrong.  Thank you for posting.

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          makingamarkposted 6 years agoin reply to this

          The red lines under the titles is what people are referring to.
          
          If you look at any of your HUBS in published mode you will note that they too have RED LINES UNDER THE LINKS.
          
          It's design feature - to tell people what's a live link.
          
          If you're not using a lot of links in your hubs you're probably less aware of this. However they have been around for some time. I always have a ton of links in my compendium hubs so that's why they don't phase me!  After I got used to them when they first appeared in the new design format for hubs that is!

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    viryaboposted 6 years ago

    The edit 'pencils' are horrible and hurt my eyes. They are too large and make the page unnecessarily busy.

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    Kenna McHughposted 6 years ago

    They need to fix it. This is crazy.

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    RJ Schwartzposted 6 years ago

    I think most of the formatting changes HP has made in the last 6 months have been in the wrong direction - I feel like I'm using two different sites at some moments.

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       jansharesposted 6 years agoin reply to this

       Yeah, like we're caught in transition.

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    ChristinSposted 6 years ago

    the red underlined links are absolutely horrendous and hard on the eyes.  I don't know what the thinking is around here sometimes, but wow, why can't we have the old, easy to read account page back? It's not like outsiders are viewing those pages.  I can't stand the retina burning colors on the niche sites, but I was fine with it until it was brought to the account page too.  Ugh - just BAD.

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    eugbugposted 6 years ago

    Red underlining gone, nice!.... Now if only the column titles were lined up with the columns (can't stand misalignment) plus use right justification for figures in columns (isn't this the usual for values in tables?). Pencil icons seem all the rage as a symbol for editing, but  there are just too many of them. Maybe it could just say "double click to edit" or just use smaller or faded icons?

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       makingamarkposted 6 years agoin reply to this

       didn't it use to SAY edit where there is no the edit icon?
       
       You're right - somebody in design does not understand that the NORMAL CONVENTION FOR NUMBERS is a right alignment

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    Jan Saintsposted 6 years ago

    Actually, the lines were orange not red!

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    Dasia Tostonposted 6 years ago

    That is weird the new changes include the title underline in red making you think something is wrong when all alone its perfectly fine...

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       makingamarkposted 6 years agoin reply to this

       That's because they previously used a red overlay for hubs which had problems!
       
       You'd have thought somebody would have explained.
       
       I actually found the colour overlays more helpful than the icons at spotting hubs with problems very quickly.

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    Will Apseposted 6 years ago

    I'm such a goody two shoes it would never occur to me that a red line meant I had done bad.

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