check out this weird symbol in ancient churches
- Baileybearposted 13 years ago
0Nah, that's an old aussie symbol, who else would call it a sheela!
I don't think anybody here disputes that early Churchianity borrowed lots from pagans, sort of like how to make them feel at home in their new religion.
Constantine had over 30 religions to include in his version of Churchianity, hence altars, Sun worship, Easter and Christs Mass planted over the winter solstice and festival of Saturnalia.
From the link:
"The figure is believed by many to date back to medieval times and is thought to represent a warning against the sinful, lustful nature of women.This was the period, in fact, in which the Church struggled to establish its power over the populations and waged war against paganism in all its forms. The natural world thus became the enemy of Christian spirituality, and the instinctive affinity of woman with nature (and, therefore, sexuality) caused her to be seen as a threat to the authority of the Christian Church and to male power generally.
In all his appearances the Green Man symbolises irrepressible life, renewal and rebirth, the eternal cycle of life, death and regeneration. The combination of human head with leaves and vegetation, moreover, can be said the be a symbol of the union of mankind with nature."
That makes a whole lot of sense. The Celtics were a threat to the Christians who wanted to kill them all for paganism and unionizing mankind with nature. The symbol would represent their defiance to the murdering, evil Christians.Sad, isn't it? And, to think that there are millions of people who still belong to such an organization that committed such atrocities.
Not really, but I would seriously question why they would want to belong to an organization with one of most horrific and bloody histories on the planet.
Why isn't everyone joining the Nazi Party. They aren't committing atrocities today, are they?
Yes, I do understand how believers will deny their organizations bloody and horrific past for the atrocities it committed to millions of innocent folks in the name of their god.
Interesting contradiction. And, while it is interesting to note that from the god of Abraham sprang three different religions with a host of thousands of varying sects within those three. The real crux of the contradiction is the fact that the messages delivered through the various prophets and messengers can and do contradict each other from one religion to the next.
I would submit that it is not so much whether or not Allah can bless two opposing beliefs, but how it is that the followers can so easily hate one another calling the other religion false and evil while still maintaining that the messages delivered are the same and it is mans perception of the messages that made all the difference.I never said they were the same, it is obvious to anyone who reads the bible and the quran that they both deliver different messages to their followers. I know you haven't read the quran and am curious as to how you comment on it's contents?
I don't think I am wrong about the god of Abraham and the religions that sprung from it. You can read about it here if you like and post your own personal beliefs on the subject.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abraham
Yes, it is such that us poor unbelievers don't have the same access to biblical scriptures like yourself... oh wait, yes we do. And, while I'm sure many believers like yourself will continue to think and speak for your gods, it becomes only too apparent that your descriptions and definitions don't even align with other believers of the same faith. Perhaps, your argument should be with your brethren before you bring it to the public.
Well, considering that believers love to always tell us the there are no atheists in foxholes, perhaps your examples of Hiroshima, Nagasaki and the world wars are just more examples of believers murdering each other.
Could you please pray to Jesus to send me there? And, could he please make the airline and hotel reservations, too. A kingsize bed would be sufficient, thanks.And, by making that claim, we are to assume it infers that you do interpret scripture correctly?
Yes, it is foolishness to use one's brain, I'm sure you would agree.
And yet, the clock ticks on and believers will continue to thank their gods for their abundance and their trips to Disneyland, and the children will continue to starve to death while your god sits back and does nothing. That is understandable.
Yet, the facts speak for themselves, yet again. Sorry, you feel compelled to deny facts.
Well then, I guess we'll all soon be worshiping you.
Wow, that sure is a productive life you lead there.
Yes, over my head.
Back to the figure, I'm not an expert or anything but I believe ancient celts revered women because they were the creators of life (not like God or anything, they gave birth and all that). Perhaps a couple thousand years ago, this statue wasn't "ugly" but beautiful to the people. I do think that many religions placed women in subservient positions, a lot of times considered "less than human".
A culture that worshiped women sounds like heaven to me....just saying.To a point it is a good thing to treat sex as something that shouldnt be focused on. It can take over your life, all that adrenaline..spelling...the stimulation can be like a drug, just look at Tiger Woods
Anyway, I dont think sex is a sin or anything that is wrong, I myself have five kids with my wife but I do think it should be something that is reserved for marraige. It is the only act that defines a marraige and when you take it outside of it, becomes just another thing that people do and marraige becomes something that just isnt important because those feelings of connection that should be only held for that person become deadened by all the other people that you ahve shared that connection with. Just my opinion, people do as they please as they always have so dont let anything I've said be taken as preachy or condeming.
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