Obama's boner

1. 53

   ocbillposted 14 years ago

   They are all friends now. so all is good.

   replyreport
2. 60

   Jellyrugposted 14 years ago

   I thought "boner" meant something else....
   I want my click back!!!!
   
   

   replyreport
3. 74

   Eaglekiwiposted 14 years ago

   Awww you guys just jealous ya couldnt all go have a beer with the President...we know

   replyreport
   1. 60

      Ron Montgomeryposted 14 years agoin reply to this

      I certainly am.  The beers would have been of much higher quality if I had been consulted.  Bud Light?  I am formally withdrawing my lukewarm support for this president.

      replyreport
4. 60

   Ron Montgomeryposted 14 years ago

   RD,
   
   Gates does have such a "rabble rousing" history albeit in his distant past.  The new opportunity may be that his friend is in the White House.  It is certainly possible that his fatigue from travel and frustration with the front door contributed to his behavior, but it seems to me that he would have been embarrased by the incident if he had truly lost control.  I would not want to be interviewed on TV the day after I popped my cork.  It leads me to believe that he knew exactly what he was doing. 
   
   If he did do his best to get arrested, I give him kudos for employing an effective strategy and showing the committment to carry it out.

   replyreport
   1. 65

      Ralph Deedsposted 14 years agoin reply to this

      Can you be specific about Gates's "rabble rousing history in his distant past"? His Wikipedia bio is quite impressive and doesn't mention anything like that. He is apparently quite a distinguished scholar.
      http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Henry_Louis_Gates

      replyreport
      1. 60

         Ron Montgomeryposted 14 years agoin reply to this

         Yes, he is a distinguished scholar.  I don't see that as being in conflict with the "rabble rouser" role, in fact the two are probably a good fit.  When the story broke, there was mention of a demonstration arrest during his youth.  I think all three men in this situation have impressive backgrounds, and each made mistakes.  Obama's was magnified because of his day job.

         replyreport
      2. 0

         pgrundyposted 14 years agoin reply to this

         Some of my favorite people on this planet are rabble rousers.

         replyreport
5. 79

   Uninvited Writerposted 14 years ago

   He probably fought for civil rights in the 60s

   replyreport
   1. 65

      Ralph Deedsposted 14 years agoin reply to this

      
      
      He might have when he was just out of knee pants. He was born in 1950. I'm sure his memory of it is quite vivid.

      replyreport
6. 60

   Ron Montgomeryposted 14 years ago

   BIDEN was at the beer fest? ARRRRRRRRRRRRRGH!  The trouble is only just beginning!

   replyreport
7. 59

   blue dogposted 14 years ago

   let's get back on the subject of those new zealand wines.  nobilo, 3 stones...
   
   enough about a president who drinks cheap beer.  very cheap beer.

   replyreport
   1. 60

      Ron Montgomeryposted 14 years agoin reply to this

      Go start your own thread.  We're talkin boners here.

      replyreport
      1. 65

         Ralph Deedsposted 14 years agoin reply to this

         All this talk about Obama's boner's gotta stop! Let's give him a little respect.

         replyreport
         1. 60

            Ron Montgomeryposted 14 years agoin reply to this

            I don't think the mention of boners is disrespectful, (but thank you for including the term in your post) I respect the man, disagree with most of his policies, and have pointed out that he made a mistake (boner)

            replyreport
            1. 65

               Ralph Deedsposted 14 years agoin reply to this

               I completely agree.

               replyreport
   2. 74

      Eaglekiwiposted 14 years agoin reply to this

      The Kiwi Delivers ( The muffin mans taking a lil break)
      
      
      
      ID please sir? 

      replyreport
8. 59

   blue dogposted 14 years ago

   the real boner is a president who drinks cheap beer.

   replyreport
   1. 60

      Ron Montgomeryposted 14 years agoin reply to this

      Thank you for getting back on topic.  All future postings to this thread must contain the word boner.

      replyreport
9. 59

   blue dogposted 14 years ago

   rumor has it that the barackstar's got a microbrewery in the white house basement.  the taste of summer is boner beer.

   replyreport
   1. 60

      Ron Montgomeryposted 14 years agoin reply to this

      boner beer?
      head?
      
      a tall one?
      
      happy hour?
      
      This thread could go on forever.

      replyreport
      1. 59

         blue dogposted 14 years agoin reply to this

         two for one.

         replyreport
10. 65

    Ralph Deedsposted 14 years ago

    "A Beer With Obama" from The New Yorker, July 27
    
    A Beer with Obama
    Sergeant Crowley suggested that he and Professor Gates come to the White House to share a beer with the president. Mr. Obama then conveyed that idea in his phone call with Professor Gates.
    —The Times
    The Oval Office. Late. President Obama sits across from Professor Henry Louis Gates, Jr., and Officer James Crowley, who share a couch. They sit amidst several empty beer bottles. No one’s wearing shoes.
    
    CROWLEY: Can I say something? And I mean this. Ya know what’s awesome is pizza.
    
    GATES: Pizza is awesome. Why is it so awesome?
    
    OBAMA: We could go get pizza right now. I have a plane.
    
    GATES: That’s awesome.
    
    OBAMA: I could pick up the phone right now, get the plane, we could go to Italy for pizza.
    
    CROWLEY: You’re amazing. And really good-looking.
    
    GATES: You are good looking. You’re a very good-looking man.
    
    OBAMA: I like giving speeches. I like press conferences.
    
    CROWLEY: You give a lot of press conferences. Maybe, like, too many?
    
    GATES: I think he’s right. Maybe don’t give so many.
    
    OBAMA: But you should see the speeches I have lined up. They’re all so…emotional. I’ve got a new one on infrastructure that quotes Rosa Parks for no reason. But it makes you cry.
    
    GATES: My ex-wife is white.
    
    OBAMA: My mother was white.
    
    CROWLEY: There are times I wish I was Jewish.
    
    GATES: I know exactly what you mean.
    
    CROWLEY: It just dawned on me. I’m the minority in this room.
    
    All laugh.
    
    GATES: (laughing, leaning over to hug Crowley) You’re insane…
    
    Crowley laughs and loses his balance, falling with Gates off the couch onto the floor. They’re still laughing as Secret Service officers enter the room through three different doors. The President waves them off. With some trouble the three men get to their feet and back onto the couch.
    
    OBAMA: We should get more beer.
    
    CROWLEY: We should definitely get beer.
    
    GATES: I really like beer. Are we going to Italy?
    
    OBAMA: So hey. Hey. Seriously. What happened?
    
    CROWLEY: What? You mean with the thing?
    
    OBAMA: Yeah.
    
    CROWLEY: Oh. I thought he was a burglar because he was black.
    
    GATES: And I was a jackass because I assumed he was a racist Irish cop.
    
    CROWLEY: He was so angry. He said mean things about my mother. I thought he was a racist.
    
    GATES: And I thought he was a racist. So I said mean things about his mother. Then he arrested me because I annoyed him.
    
    CROWLEY: I arrested him because he annoyed me, which was stupid. But it didn’t help that you called me stupid.
    
    OBAMA: That was stupid of me.
    
    CROWLEY: Turns out we both love ballroom dancing and bridge.
    
    GATES: We should play bridge now. We need a fourth.
    
    CROWLEY: No. What we should do is watch “Tommy Boy.”
    
    GATES: Did you just say “boy?”
    
    All laugh.
    
    GATES: If Chris Farley had been black do you think he still would have been overweight?
    
    CROWLEY: No. I think he would have been thin but not funny.
    
    OBAMA: I think he would have been funny, thin and Swiss.
    
    GATES: The Swiss aren’t funny.
    
    CROWLEY: That’s so true. Why is that?
    
    GATES: Have you ever been stopped by the police just because of your color?
    
    CROWLEY: I was on Cape Cod one summer and really really tanned, and I was stopped by the police. They thought I was Brazilian but we ended up just laughing about it and I remember thanking my lucky stars I wasn’t Brazilian or black.
    
    OBAMA: That’s tragic.
    
    GATES: This is what I’m talking about.
    
    CROWLEY: I guess I’m lucky I’m white. Except, you’re both rich and famous.
    
    GATES: You think we’d be famous rich guys in Switzerland? The Swiss are afraid of black people.
    
    CROWLEY: Some people are afraid of cops.
    
    GATES: Are people afraid of black cops?
    
    OBAMA: No.
    
    CROWLEY: No. They love them. There are times when I wish I was black.
    
    OBAMA: Ya know what was a good show was “The West Wing.”
    
    CROWLEY: That show was so good.
    
    GATES: I own it. On DVD. I own it. We could go to my house and watch it.
    
    CROWLEY: We could break into your house and watch it!
    
    Crowley and Gates laugh and fall onto the floor again. The door opens and a waiter brings in a tray of beer. Obama slumps into his chair, legs out. Gates and Crowley lie next to each other on the floor, staring at the ceiling. All are quiet for a time.
    
    CROWLEY: (crying) Ya know what I think is just wrong?
    
    GATES: What?
    
    CROWLEY: That this is called the White House.
    
    GATES: (to Obama): This is a good man. This is a lovely man.
    
    CROWLEY: I mean…why? Why do we have to judge and hate based on race? Why can’t we love?
    
    GATES: We should get tattoos.
    
    They struggle to sit up, lean against the couch.
    
    CROWLEY: I’m sorry I arrested you because you were obnoxious. There’s no law that says that a Harvard professor can’t be obnoxious in his own home.
    
    GATES: And I’m sorry I called your mother a Bangkok whore. I have no idea where your mother is from. I was exhausted from the flight from China and was annoyed that you were a white man.
    
    OBAMA: What have we learned?
    
    GATES: That we like beer.
    
    OBAMA: What else?
    
    GATES: If you’re going to break into your own house go in through the back door?
    
    CROWLEY: If you’re going to arrest someone on false charges plant something on them to make the charges stick?
    
    OBAMA: Good. We’ve made progress here today.
    
    GATES: Well, I think we all know—all of us here—that people are the same wherever you go.
    
    CROWLEY: There is good and bad in everyone.
    
    GATES: We learn to live …
    
    GATES: …we learn to give each other …
    
    CROWLEY: …what we need to survive together alive.
    
    OBAMA: Favreau needs to hear this. This is good stuff.
    
    Gates and Crowley stand and move to the center of the room.
    
    GATES: (to Obama) Watch this.
    
    They begin ballroom dancing.
    
    More beer arrives.
    
    Posted by John KenneyInShouts & Murmurs
    Interact:
    Print E-Mail

    replyreport
11. 60

    Ron Montgomeryposted 14 years ago

    Where were you hiding Ralph?

    replyreport
12. 79

    Uninvited Writerposted 14 years ago

    

    replyreport
13. 79

    Uninvited Writerposted 14 years ago

    Look, it is over. He apologized. The cop accepted. They all went out and had a beer together.

    replyreport
14. 74

    Eaglekiwiposted 14 years ago

    And its President Obama he won the race , remember
    
    You should be supporting your leader ,not slamming him every chance you get !

    replyreport
    1. 74

       Eaglekiwiposted 14 years agoin reply to this

       Yea hes starting to remind me of one of those automated telephone spammers....grrrr

       replyreport
15. 59

    blue dogposted 14 years ago

    back to the boner.
    thirsty thursday?

    replyreport
    1. 74

       Eaglekiwiposted 14 years agoin reply to this

       did you see the nz wine ?

       replyreport
       1. 60

          Ron Montgomeryposted 14 years agoin reply to this

          What is the best NZ Wine?

          replyreport
          1. 60

             Ron Montgomeryposted 14 years agoin reply to this

             I wanna move to Australia, Whaaaaaaaaaa!

             replyreport
       2. 59

          blue dogposted 14 years agoin reply to this

          yes.  such memories.  what a beautiful country.  such kind people.  kaikoura is special.

          replyreport
16. 65

    Ralph Deedsposted 14 years ago

    This op-ed by Bob Herbert from today's NYTimes says it all
    
    http://www.nytimes.com/2009/08/01/opini … W4CGISLPVg

    replyreport
17. 69

    ledefensetechposted 14 years ago

    That's a load.  I can sympathize with Gates a bit.  The real problem he has is being accosted in his home by the power of the state.  Most people feel resentful towards that sort of thing, but they'd also feel grateful that the police were making sure that nothing was going on.
    
    What's forgotten in this whole ordeal is the fact that the cops had no idea who lives where or what was going on when they responded to that call.  All they did was ask for ID to make sure that the person they were talking to actually lived there.  Had Mr. Gates done so, the incident would have blown over.  In this case I agree with the police, they were engaged in one of their basic duties, the protection of people's property. 
    
    Mr. Gates, however, for reasons only known to him, decided to make this a referendum on race.  Ignore for a moment that he was rude and disrespectful to a guy trying to protect Gates' home.  For all intents and purposes, the blatant racism of the 1960's is gone.  We no longer have Jim Crow laws, the franchise has been extended to all citizens, even our attitudes towards race have undergone changes.  Yet the "leaders" of the "civil rights movement" refuse to give up the fight.  Now we supposedly have to make "reparations" for slavery, something that happened centuries ago.  How far back does that go?  I'm sure the Romans enslaved some of my ancestors, does that mean that I can petition Rome for redress.  Get the back pay for centuries of labor in Hispania? 
    
    As usual, this is about power and control.  The civil rights leaders fear losing their power and prestige so they deliberately engineer things like this to keep themselves in the spotlight.  Lord knows that it would be a shame for them to have to go out and get real jobs and not lobby for influence in Congress.  That would be a real shame.

    replyreport
    1. 65

       Ralph Deedsposted 14 years agoin reply to this

       My recollection from news reports is that Gates gave Crowley two pieces of I.D. What he said to Crowley we don't know. Too bad there's no video tape. But arguing with a cop is not illegal or grounds for arrest as Officer Crowley found out when the prosecuting attorney dismissed the charges or declined to press charges. These kinds of situations aren't confined to white cops and black citizens. It happens with white cops and white citizens and black cops and black citizens because
       
       --police work apparently attracts more than its share of bullies who overreact when they don't get the deference they think they deserve
       
       --police training and supervision don't teach and require police to be courteous to all citizens, even when the citizens argue with them
       
       --many police, based on their experience, that because they are members of the law enforcement community (police, prosecutors, judges) they won't be held accountable or punished for abusing citizens.

       replyreport
18. 60

    Ron Montgomeryposted 14 years ago

    For those new to this thread, it's not what you were hoping for.

    replyreport
19. 62

    Mishaposted 14 years ago

    Bumping your own thread?

    replyreport
    1. 60

       Ron Montgomeryposted 14 years agoin reply to this

       If you scroll back through the Beck threads there were some posters who seemed to think I was an Obama appologist.  I brought it back up for their reference.

       replyreport
       1. 62

          Mishaposted 14 years agoin reply to this

          Oh no, I can get through them, i can't survive that much of Lita's profile pic

          replyreport
          1. 0

             Leta Sposted 14 years agoin reply to this

             Nobody is asking you to look at offensive things, Misha. Would you rather I put up a photo of a nice calm grape fruit or a mountain or something?  Or, you could just not look.
             
             I would appreciate it if you would stop bandying my name around in all sorts of threads, though, if you don't mind.  You are giving me something of a complex.

             replyreport
             1. 62

                Mishaposted 14 years agoin reply to this

                Offensive?
                
                Come on Lita, you know your pic is not offensive, I can't have enough of it - and I guess I am just trying to fight my newfound addiction.

                replyreport
                1. 59

                   blue dogposted 14 years agoin reply to this

                   maybe a "women of hubpages" calendar is in order.

                   replyreport
                   1. 60

                      Ron Montgomeryposted 14 years agoin reply to this

                      or maybe a boners of HubPages

                      replyreport
                      1. 62

                         Mishaposted 14 years agoin reply to this

                         I am gladly surrendering this title to fiery

                         replyreport
                      2. 59

                         blue dogposted 14 years agoin reply to this

                         well then, i suggest a one page calendar, and i nominate dean77's boner from last nite's discussion.

                         replyreport
20. 0

    Leta Sposted 14 years ago

    There are 'the hottest hubbers,' things etc., but I'm kind of too serious a type to be involved in anything like that.  Seriously.
    
    And thanks, Misha, I think. 

    replyreport
    1. 59

       blue dogposted 14 years agoin reply to this

       well, to be fair, the calendar would have to be based on actual photos.  since it's an online thing, personalities would not come into play.  since it's a calendar on women who are actively producing hubs, and one in which only guys who are actively producing hubs get to vote, it starts narrowing down the variables.

       replyreport