Obama says police were 'stupid' to arrest black professor Henry Louis

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nicompposted 13 years ago
The cowboy president strikes again...

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/w … 724625.ece

"The President acknowledged his friendship with Mr Gates and admitted that he did not know the full facts of the incident."
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  Brenda Durhamposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  Yeah, did you notice how he immediately took the professor's side and used the incident as a vehicle to whine about blacks being persecuted? ..I don't remember him vocalizing anything about Sotomayor's persecution of the white (and one Hispanic) firefighters, do you?
  I think maybe the whole exchange between him and the reporter could've be set up in advance. At any rate, Obama is a mess, psychologically and politically. He never stands up for his "white" heritage even though it's (supposedly) common knowledge that he's half-white.
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  nicompposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  Oh, it was definitely a set-up. They didn't huddle beforehand, but the so-called 'reporter' knew full well that the question was a slow-pitch softball offering that would provide the president with a platform for his professorial pandering.
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  Eaglekiwiposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  Good for President Obama , like hes the first one not to use the media...yea right
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  nicompposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  The transparent change hope "for the children" president is just like all the other guys?
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  sneakorocksolidposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  Well under normal circumstances it's his right. Under the guise of racism it's pathetic and anyone who promotes this kind of behavior is no better than a racist themselves. When a liberal pulls a stunt like this it's ok, if a conservative white man did it he'd be crucified!
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  Eaglekiwiposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  Like Glenn Beck ? yea right.
  Besides there is racism , anyone should call it IF they see it.
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  sneakorocksolidposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  Don't let me confuse the issue but President Obama is the president of 'The United States of America', thats why we call him President Obama. Glen Beck is a conservative watch-dog that has a television/radio talk show. President Obama has the power to end life on earth. Glen Beck has the power to be a cheerleader for conservatives. I think there's a difference.
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  nicompposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  There's no difference because it suits their agenda.
  
  President ... talk show host
  
  hmmm... big difference, I agree.
  
  Why they are so scared of Beck is beyond me.
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  Eaglekiwiposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  You wouldnt think so on Hubpages
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  Harvey Stelmanposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  What a bunch of ****!
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  Eaglekiwiposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  Lynch him ,I say .....ssheesh
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  VENUGOPAL SIVAGNAposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  He is half-white...! Which half? Lower half or upper half? Right half or left half?
  How can a man be half coloured? He is a black man born in Kenya.
  Because he is President of America, he cant become half white.
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  Eaglekiwiposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  Were you present at his birth ,if not, Im going with the experts that Pres Obama was born In Hawaii and if Im wrong
  
  Fact is ,Hes elected President of the United States (still)
  even if he looks like Barney the purple dinosaur he is still the President!
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  tksenseiposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  ?????????????????????
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  sneakorocksolidposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  Where are my crayons? I can end this argument!
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  nicompposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  When a baby is born, the race of the mother is noted on the birth certificate. Do the math.
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  Eaglekiwiposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  Isnt his colour thats ever been a question ,it was/is his place of birth I believe.
  
  Seems odd that concept too ,since America was founded by immigrants. In essense wouldnt that mean that only Native Americans could hold office
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Uninvited Writerposted 13 years ago
There is already a thread about this...
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  Ron Montgomeryposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  With pictures!
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  RooBeeposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  and boners!
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  nicompposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  It's just that important
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Greek Oneposted 13 years ago
are you guys still into that whole democracy/freedom thing in the States?
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  Eaglekiwiposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  I have been corrected about the democracy thing.
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pgrundyposted 13 years ago
I only hope that someday ignorant white people will no longer be oppressed by wise Latina Supreme Court Justices, black Presidents of the US, and successful Harvard scholars of African and American Studies.

Poor, poor white people.
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  Harvey Stelmanposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  Nice post, that's what were heade for. What will happen when white's are the minority?
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  Maddie Ruudposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  That is ridiculous, Harvey. People of color have been oppressed in this country since its founding, and still are today. You're just so used to your white privilege you don't notice it. Other people having equal rights is not an infringement on your own.
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  A Texanposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  Yeah Harvey, those who were oppressed get to oppress you now!
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  Leta Sposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  The layers of meaning and missed meaning in these posts is amazing. Some kind of mis-matched Dagwood sandwich!
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tksenseiposted 13 years ago
I only hope that someday people really accept that racism (and hypocrisy) is wrong. For everyone. All the time.

Poor, poor, humans.
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  RooBeeposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  Bad talking dog! Now, go lay down! Judged by a yard-pooper...
  
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  voicedup.composted 13 years agoin reply to this
  i don't understand why someone would refuse to identify themselves. Instead of being appreciative of the enforcement it seems Mr. Louis has a chip on his shoulder. The officer was ensuring the occupancy of the house was legitimate.
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Uninvited Writerposted 13 years ago
I'm starting to hear John Lennon's Imagine...
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Mishaposted 13 years ago
I think I like TK's version better, sorry Pam
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iamqweenbeeposted 13 years ago
I guess he took the professor's side because he knows the professor and knew the accusations were out of character for the professor. He also indicated in his book, his experiences with racial profiling. Put them two together and you have what he felt a bout the situation.
1. he knows Gates does not start trouble being the man he is
2. He knows the police does racially profile against Black/Hispanic men
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  hubby7posted 13 years agoin reply to this
  My very thoughts. I concur.
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spidergirl364posted 13 years ago
I think Obama is being stupid and ignorant for not apologizing. He keeps saying that he thinks the police acted stupid, but to keep up his pride won't admit HE himself acted stupid.
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  Ron Montgomeryposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  He actually did say that he acted stupidly....just not in English. It was spoken in politicalese which is difficult to translate. He made a mistake, is unlikely to do it again, and did what we're all supposed to do when we make mistakes; learned from it and moved on to other business.
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  Ralph Deedsposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  The police did act stupid.
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  nicompposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  The next time someone breaks into your house, call Robert Gates. He obviously understands police procedure better than police officers do.
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  ledefensetechposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  How so? For all the cops knew there was a burglary in progress. I'd hope the cops in my town would ask for verification were I in the same position. They were protecting the property of that neighborhood, something that is within their legal responsibility.
  
  Look at what happens when police are not thorough:
  
  http://news.yahoo.com/s/afp/20090828/ts … idnapchild
  
  Gates is an over-educated, elitist as well as racist. How people can take this man seriously is beyond me. Laws should only concern themselves with the protection of the life, liberty and property of citizens. In this case the police just wanted to verify that the person they were talking to really was the owner. Sooner or later the majority is going to get tired of the incessant whining of the minority and you'll really start to see racism and discrimination. Times are tough, it's time we started hanging together rather than trying to rip each other down. We did that once before and the late 1960's and 1970's were the result. You think we'd learn from history.
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  Ralph Deedsposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  
  Try looking in a mirror if you want to see a racist. You must be a pathetic Glenn Beck fan.
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  nicompposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  Sigh.
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  nicompposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  Just for clarification:
  1. do you mean that Glenn Beck is pathetic or
  
  2. the fan of Glenn Beck is pathetic?
  
  If #2, are there fans of Glenn Beck who are not pathetic?
  
  If #1, can a fellow be a fan of Glenn Beck and not himself be pathetic?
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  Ralph Deedsposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  1. Yes
  2. Yes
  3. No, except for those like me who watch him just to see what the looney right is saying.
  4. I don't think so.
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  ledefensetechposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  It'll be interesting to see how many people agree with you, come election day.
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  Ralph Deedsposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  Yes it will. The GOP has a abandoned any pretense at serving the public interest and is swinging a big wrecking ball at Obama and the country.
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  ledefensetechposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  The same thing could be said about your golden boy Obama vis a vis the economy. Or do you really think his economic boondoggles are really going to work?
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  Mishaposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  Sure thing, Obama has nothing to do with wrecking the country, it's all republican's fault
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  sneakorocksolidposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  Well lets look at how the the left serves the public. I'm refering to the mayoral race in Atlanta where the enlightened elite sent out an E-mail urgeing black voters to consolidate their votes to keep a white canidate out of a run-off. Can you even imagine the uproar if a white canidates party had sent that E-mail!
  
  Read the story in USA Today, it's a fact my blind liberal friends! It's ok, I'll cry foul for you. FOUL!!!! See conservatives feel your pain.
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  Ralph Deedsposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  The GOP has been pulling that kind of crap ever since Nixon. Have you ever heard of Willie Horton the subject of a Roger Ailes/Floyd Brown/Craig Atwater Bush I attack ad against Dukakis?
  
  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EC9j6Wfdq3o
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  ledefensetechposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  And the Democrats been pulling their crap since FDR. What's your point? Ever hear about the Blue Eagle?
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  Ralph Deedsposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  My point is that the Democrats have not used anti-black racist propaganda as a campaign strategy as the GOP has. Blacks recognize that and the vast majority vote Democratic. Hispanics also. Moreover, they have a better understanding of their economic self interest than the deluded redneck, evangelical, southern racists who have been lured in to voting against their own interests by the likes of Jerry Falwell, the NRA, and Republican southern strategists.
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  ledefensetechposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  Nice to see you're such a tolerant example of the "New Soviet Man"....um liberal Democrat.
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  sneakorocksolidposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  Hey! Don't be mess'in with the NRA!
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  Leta Sposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  This sounds like music right in tune.
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  tksenseiposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  Absolute, 100% Grade A Bullshit. Just come out and say you are a far left partisan shill and leave it at that.
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  nicompposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  Bill Clinton must be so proud of you!
  
  You typify the crux of liberal thought; you know better than the conservative, and everyone else. No one is capable of cogent thought except the Liberal Elite. We've been 'lured' into behaving the way we do.
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  tksenseiposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  Yup, a tired old song and dance.
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  Ralph Deedsposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  You mean tired old knuckle dragger b.s.?
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  nicompposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  With all due respect, to what position were you appointed by Bill Clinton?
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  Ralph Deedsposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  With due respect, what does that have to do with the issue of Professor Gates abuse by Officer Crowley. [I don't believe it's accurate to say that I was appointed by President Clinton. I received an appointment to a political position as special assistant to the chairman of an agency in the Clinton administration. I believe my appointment was initiated by the head of the agency, not Bill Clinton, who I doubt ever heard of me. In any event my job at the NLRB has nothing to do with the Gates incident. When I returned to Michigan from Washington I received an appointment to a state appeals board by Republican Governor, John Engler. I like to think both appointments resulted from my ability and previous experience. I had not contributed to the campaigns of either candidate at the time I was appointed, but I did contribute to Clinton later and a small amount to Engler's campaign fund after he appointed me.]
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  SweetiePieposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  Well I know many of us here respect your expertise and contributions. If others make back handed little remarks I would just attribute that to jealousy on their part .
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  Ralph Deedsposted 13 years agoin reply to this
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  Leta Sposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  I definitely would attribute their attacks to jealousy...and realize it is a backhanded compliment. And yep, it is like fending off the hoards these days. Pretty weird how so many found hubpages. ...But like SP says, many of us really appreciate your comments.
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  sneakorocksolidposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  Poor Lita, with all that water retention her thoughts float in a sea made of 'conceded soup.' I'm not attacking it was purely an observation.
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  Leta Sposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  You make absolutely no sense, grammatically or content-wise. The post was not intended to induce you to spasm into insanity again (which is obviously all you have available to you, ). It was support of Ralph and directed to him, not you.
  
  So everyone knows, you are also the....uh...wingnut who writes 5 page essays on every liberal Hubber's hubs here...not differentiating one from the other. Nearly indecipherable rants. You must not have any life at all. It is scary.
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  tksenseiposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  Ok, which logical fallacy did you just engage in? I know you've done soooooo much research on the subject...
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  tantrumposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  
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  sneakorocksolidposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  How are you able to be that mean and that wrong all at the same time? You all look alike to me?
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  SweetiePieposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  Yeah that is sort of a gross observation, even though it has no basis in reality.
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  SweetiePieposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  This is why over the last couple of days I contribute to this particular forum less. It is just getting way too weird for me, and about a couple days ago topped the cake lol.
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  Leta Sposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  Yes. Madame X writes, lol, extensively about how Hitler was an extreme leftist. Defies gravity and MOST people's education, I'd imagine. I actually read your hub, though, and know it wasn't about 'she.'
  
  And I know...they get creepier and creepier. One here was talking about menstruation, I believe. How political,lol,...and just ODD.
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  tksenseiposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  Yeah, like some kind of creepy stalker, right?
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  A Texanposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  Stalker? Did somebody say stalker?
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  sneakorocksolidposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  Don't start Tex I'm going to Bed.
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  A Texanposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  Whatever
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  SweetiePieposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  It was about five of them on the thread, but she was not even the worst of it. Another person was particularly the rudest, but claims they have never said anything offensive.
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  sneakorocksolidposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  No thats what you said about whine of a Hub you wrote.
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  Leta Sposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  They always deny it. And I guess they are tolerated because of equal time, and because 'that's just their style.' I guess...? The only thing that is positive (and I actually think this), is at least they are expressing themselves, and not at town halls with knives or guns...or other intentions, who knows.
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  tksenseiposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  Yeah, like biting people's fingers off...
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  SweetiePieposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  They both got in a fist fight. The biter is weird, but the guy throwing the bunch got his finger bitten off. This is why people should not fight. Remember what your mom told you about that?
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  tksenseiposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  Have you been smoking the weed?
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  SweetiePieposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  I do not do any drugs. I do not drink anything but water and soda.
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  tksenseiposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  No excuses then.
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  tksenseiposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  The partisan acrobatics are hilarious, if a little disheartening.
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  SweetiePieposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  They are both very red hot tempered people if you ask me.
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  SweetiePieposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  I guess they feel good getting it all out. More power to them I guess. I think some of it is all very bizarre, but whatever floats their boats.
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  Leta Sposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  Yes, exactly...it is bizarre. lol Which is why I'm posting this here.
  
  But in the long run its better they have a place to spew rather than not...for the greater good.
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  sneakorocksolidposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  You two should date. I'll settle for odd, Wonder Woman.
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  SweetiePieposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  Lita already has a boyfriend, and I am not interested in you. Sorry .
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  Leta Sposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  eww. lol...thanks, SP
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  sneakorocksolidposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  There's no way she has a boyfriend! No Way! And sweetpea I'm happily married and have been to the same person for 33yrs. Now theres no way you two will ever be married that long. You'll run your mouth and run him off long before that!
  
  Do you two have anything to say about Mr.Gates or not?
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  Leta Sposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  Ah, so I now understand a multitude of problems.
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  SweetiePieposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  So I do not want to be married to a guy who is into machismo, big deal? Also, I think marriage is overrated, and I have seen many people stay together for thirty plus years because of guilt, security, and just plain not wanting to change. You may have the best marriage in the world, but just because someone is married for thirty years does not necessarily make them happy.
  
  Lita and her boyfriend have a really good relationship from what I have heard.
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  tksenseiposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  .............................................
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  SweetiePieposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  With the sky high divorce rate in the western world I am surprised you cannot figure this out.
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  tksenseiposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  Yeah, that's ok. Don't worry about it...
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  Leta Sposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  You got it, SP. Might induce some to do kinda odd things.
  
  And Matt & I are fine. I am realistic, so is he. We agree about some things...some things not. Agree politically, . Sometimes (it is true) I envy my single sister...because she has more time, lol, mostly.
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  SweetiePieposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  If I seem sort of anti-relationships I did not mean to come off that way, but snearkerworld just sort of annoys me. He assumes my life is pathetic because I cannot keep a man like him.
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  tksenseiposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  What kind of man can you keep?
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  SweetiePieposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  I have basically been single most of my life, and it really does not bother me.
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  tksenseiposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  -This is me not commenting on what that really means...-
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  Leta Sposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  Well! I haven't rolled off nearly 3,500 posts in 4 months, . I've had several long love affairs, there TK...wouldn't have had it any other way. I'm an artist type...we do that. Don't believe in marriage, really.
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  tksenseiposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  Yes, and some with married men. That's just super. There are words for that kind of person but I can't seem to remember them now...
  
  ...good luck with that
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  Leta Sposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  That's getting a bit personal, oooo. Strange. And scary, creepy...
  
  But we do know.
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  tksenseiposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  Yeah, yeah, I see you out in the bushes with the night visions goggles, stalker. Don't BEG for attention..
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  Leta Sposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  Ah, so I now understand a multitude of problems.
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  sneakorocksolidposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  Oh yea, I do this for fun. Interacting with you is very interesting because I know the difference between a strong knowledgeable woman and a woman that is a conceded self-righteous twit. I love to brag about my wife she rocks! She set up one of the companies that currently drills for oil on that reality show and handles that company from home. She is an executive for another oil company handleing revenue distribution for both oil and gas. She does contracts for a group of attourneys and some investors in both Texas and California. She recieved her accounting degree from the University of Cambridge(England). We currently live in a very nice community in Texas that is a perenial pick for the top ten places to live in the US.
  
  You two with boyfriends, Yikes.
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  sneakorocksolidposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  What are we jealous about? Ralph is obviously a talented man but we wish he wasn't as politically challenged as he is.
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  tksenseiposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  Your act needs work, comrade.
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  Ralph Deedsposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  And you could use a shave and haircut and probably a bath.
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  CabinGirlposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  Cheers you just reminded to order a Xmas pressie off ebay, I likes to be early ya know !
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  tksenseiposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  Still not workin' for ya, comrade.
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  SweetiePieposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  Is Red Dawn your favorite all time favorite movie .
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  tksenseiposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  No, thanks for asking though.
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  Ralph Deedsposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  You mean it's not working for you. It's working fine for me. Go and ask your master for a bath.
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  tksenseiposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  *crickets *
  
  .........................................
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  cosetteposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  
  actually i kind of like his style... he certainly isn't as scary as Bill O'Reilly or as overbearing as Rush Limbaugh.
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  ledefensetechposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  Nice to see what sort of education you get in that liberal college of yours, if that is the best you can do. It's really kind of pathetic that people look up to you for your supposed wisdom and knowledge.
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  sneakorocksolidposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  Ralph and Ron = Blinky and Bozo.
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  Ralph Deedsposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  Obama's mistake was a political error, not a factual error. Crowley arrested Gates in his own home after he identified himself, as I recall, with two pieces of I.D. not because he thought he was a burglar but rather because his feelings were hurt when Gates took issue with his overbearing conduct. Crowley was a typical racist Boston Irish cop.
  
  Sneaky, Why don't you argue about the issue instead of engaging in childish name calling? You right-wing, knuckle-dragging, nattering nabobs of neanderthalism are all alike.
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  tksenseiposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  And that is a typical ignorant emo liberal comment.
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  nicompposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  Deeds is trolling you. Even a knuckle dragging public-school-educated conservative like me can see that.
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  tksenseiposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  It's pretty clear. So much 'hate' and 'disrespect of my dignity and education'
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  nicompposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  I thought The Liberal Tent was big enough for everyone. I thought tolerance and kindness ruled the day. Guess not.
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  tksenseiposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  They do, as long as you do what you are told, think approved thoughts, and are an obedient servant of the president.
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  Maddie Ruudposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  We're going camping? Awesome. I'll pack my hiking boots.
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  tksenseiposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  Weak joke, comrade.
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  nicompposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  He was arrested in his front yard because he engaged in childish name calling. I have no doubt you didn't read the police report, but why let facts stand in the way of your opinion?
  
  I also have no doubt you are trolling at this point.
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  Ralph Deedsposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  Why do you suppose Crowley ordered Gates to come out of his house and into his front yard? Do you think it might have been in order to create a situation in which he thought he might have a more plausible basis for arresting Gates? My recollection is that the law differs somewhat depending where the alleged offense occurs, i.e., whether in "public" or in the citizen's domicile. That seems pretty clear to me. Every day perfectly innocent citizens are arrested for no reason other than not showing enough deference to a cop.
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  nicompposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  Sure! The cop planned and schemed to arrest Gates. He had nothing better to do than fill out more paperwork.
  
  And the neighbor who made the initial call was in on it too.
  
  And Ashton Kutcher too. The cop was punk'd.
  
  I'll keep repeating it... read the police report.
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  A Texanposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  Again more BS from the resident socialist, Gates followed the Officer outside the residence continuing his "disorderly conduct" Habeus Grabass was put to him at which time he became a arrested individual!
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  sneakorocksolidposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  The last time I addressed you on an issue you said," I don't have the inclination to respond to your rant." I addressed the issue about the racist comments made in an e-mail the black coalition made and had a white conservative coalition made the same remarks what would the outcome be? I have a tendency to be alittle sarcastic when I feel I'm being patronized. As far as the political turn of events my original feelings about our president were concern over his lack of experience. As long as you and the rest of the enlightened intellectuals don't mess with religion and the religious, our gun laws, healthcare or continue to expand abortion rights, Hey were Americans. If you and others like turn the healthcare system upside down and it doesn't work, how are you going to fix it? Ralph you may be a genious, I'm not, but I see trouble ahead. Then when you follow the book of Revelations this may be the beginning of the 'end-of-days'.
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  A Texanposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  He arrested him outside the home in what is known as "Public view" now why don;t you not lie and keep the BS to a minimum! Hmmmmmmmmmm
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  Ralph Deedsposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  That's true. I misspoke. He ordered him to go outside so that he could arrest him for creating a disturbance in public which he couldn't have done inside Gates's own house. Someone with a brain in his head decided that it was a mistake to pursue the STUPID charge. If the incident had happened in Texas, Louisiana or Mississippi the police probably would have beaten a confession out of Gates with a rubber hose.
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  A Texanposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  Rubber hose? Hell boy a few hits upside the head with a phonebook will usually do the trick, and leave a lot less marks!
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  sneakorocksolidposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  Ralph, see here we go again, you assume that Mr. Gates is completely innocent. Now this is my take on humans in general, I've never seen two people have a disagrement and one party is 100% right and one 100% wrong, it doesn't happen.
  
  As far as police go, you do what they tell you to, politely. Don't antagonize the police and then problems can be sorted out reasonably. If you feel that you were handled improperly, you let your lawyer deal with it! Keep that pie hole shut!
  
  Now about your disdain for Texas, we like our laws and we want them inforced. Thats one of the reasons we are way up on the economic ladder compared to the rest of the country. We work hard and we like what comes from hard work and if someone tries to ruin it, we won't standby and say that poor misunderstood person. We want them prosecuted, period.
  
  We also don't like people putting their hands in our pocket. If you choose to do little or nothing, fine. We don't want to pay for you to do it.
  
  If you want to debate, debate. If you start the name calling, I'll do my best to keep up. If that's where you think it's got to go, thats fine just be an adult and take the hit.
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Uninvited Writerposted 13 years ago
He has apologized...they have all made up...they are going for a beer...
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  Eaglekiwiposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  UW
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curiozitiesposted 13 years ago
From what I understand the white cop is the instructor on racial profiling for his police force. Also, there was a black cop present who said the white cop acted correctly. It seems to me the professor had a chip on his shoulder. You'd think he'd actually be grateful that cops came out as soon as it was reported that someone broke into his house. I know I'd be.
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  Ralph Deedsposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  Crowley probably is teaching the Cambridge cops how to profile! He lied in his report on what he was told by the 911 caller, Lucia Whalen.
  
  http://www.nytimes.com/2009/07/30/us/30 … amp;st=cse
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  Ron Montgomeryposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  That's a bit of an assumption. There is a discrepency, not necessarily a lie. A well respected officer, supported by colleagues of different races is unlikely to have intentionally falsified a statement.
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  Eaglekiwiposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  The police never lie..ahem
  
  but hey on a lighter note
  
  the boys are all going out for drinkies now
  
  Budlite for the President, and forget what the others are having..red something? ( no ,not red bull)..6am , my ears were still half asleep
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Ron Montgomeryposted 13 years ago
Crowley missed a financial opportunity here. He is having a Blue Moon. He should have chosen Samuel Adams - brewed in Boston, named after a revolutionary war patriot.
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  Eaglekiwiposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  Blue moon ok yep I was close
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bgamallposted 13 years ago
I agree with Maddy. I think this is a distraction from the real problems of the high frequency trading scams of Goldman Sachs. Also the government is not telling the banks what to do but is giving them billions while the consumer is on his back. Those are the issues that the censored mainstream media doesn't want to discuss. As long as we fight wiht each other the banks get away with murder.
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pgrundyposted 13 years ago
I agree with Ralph.
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  sneakorocksolidposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  There's a surprise!
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  nicompposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  Good. Mr Gates is now responsible for 2 people.
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BJCposted 13 years ago
Easy, we have a stupid president. Out of the mouth comes what is in our hearts.
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  tksenseiposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  That's when you need to see a doctor right away!
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  Eaglekiwiposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  Speak for yourself
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Mishaposted 13 years ago
Well, stupid don't get that high. It's the first time I say that since Bush times
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  VENUGOPAL SIVAGNAposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  Sometimes, it happens. One of the Indian Kings called Md. Bin Tuqlak was more stupid. He kept changing his capital several times, giving trouble to common people and officials.
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Mishaposted 13 years ago
LOL Futility in its essence :0
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  cosetteposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  haha. i thought it quite fitting for some of this forum's more 'lively' discussions
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Ron Montgomeryposted 13 years ago
Very intelligent and interesting conversation.

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tksenseiposted 13 years ago
More emo BS
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tksenseiposted 13 years ago
I am not from Texas and have not yet had the pleasure of visiting (I think), but I admire the people and the spirit of that great state.
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Leta Sposted 13 years ago
And all you have available to you both, too,

hahahahahaa
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Leta Sposted 13 years ago
But both of us, I reckon, , know the truth, SP.

And what I just said is how I feel about relationships. Absolutely. Better to be real, .
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  SweetiePieposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  I think maybe some of them could learn a thing or two from you .
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  Leta Sposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  They could learn a thing or two from anybody with a reasonable mind, jeez.
  
  You know how funny this all is, when you look at it from a little distance... lonely ol...fill in the blank!
  
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  SweetiePieposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  That is about right. I found a karate site with lots of bickering, which was kind of interesting lol.
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  Leta Sposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  So did many. Plus the 19 year old thing...
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  SweetiePieposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  I saw the 19 year old girl profile too.
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  Leta Sposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  Very unique name,
  
  Hey...I think this is working!
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  SweetiePieposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  I surely hope so . The bickering continues on several sites, even up until today lol.
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  Leta Sposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  Well, working here, I mean.
  
  Wow. Like this must be the entirety of the life, then.
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  SweetiePieposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  Well at least it is working here .
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  Leta Sposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  We should do this more often! I think this thread has been reclaimed!
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  tksenseiposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  Careful! Don't get so excited you fall out of the tree!
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tksenseiposted 13 years ago
Good for you.
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SweetiePieposted 13 years ago
The girl profile lives in Ft Worth Texas. That is quite interesting .
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  Leta Sposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  haaha. I thought that might be about 'fantasies' of, uh, some sort. lol
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  SweetiePieposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  Yes I definitely think it was a fantasy character with an oh so familiar name .
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Leta Sposted 13 years ago
Did you ever see the movie with Annette Benning & Kevin Spacey...? It's just beautiful visually....won so many academy awards. The name escapes me for the moment. But the neighbor, the ex-military guy, you know?

*edit: oh, yeah.. American Beauty!
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SweetiePieposted 13 years ago
American Beauty, yes I have seen it a few times. Spacey's character does remind me of someone for sure . The military guy reminds me of someone else.
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  Leta Sposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  Oh! You should tell! (It's one of my favorites, too.)
  
  This is/has been fun, btw.
  
  *edit..anyway, thread reclaimed! Welcome one and all non-crazies.
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  SweetiePieposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  Spacey's character reminds me of a few of the guys who have vivid fantasy lives if you know what I mean. The ex-military guy definitely reminds me of the guy who is anti-human rights. However, people usually are when they feel they have something to be ashamed of in their own lives.
  
  This is fun for a change .
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  Leta Sposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  Yes, . Well, Matt always says that you know they call it the GOP...Grand Old Perverts. I'm not saying that across the board...but of the contingent.
  
  I understand Kevin Spacey. Anti-human rights? I may have missed that. Across the Border, so to speak?
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  SweetiePieposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  I meant the military guy's character. The one who talked bad about homosexuals, but then had a big secret for Kevin Spacey.
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  Leta Sposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  hmmm. Yeaaah. But anyone here on HP fit that?
  
  Yes...it is so weird, don't you think, that they literally kind of follow and torture people...every day, in and out. Something must possess them.
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  SweetiePieposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  One strikes me that way. Well I think maybe at the most this person seems to have an obsession with writing mean spirited things about gays.
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  Leta Sposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  Ah! I've missed that one. I've noticed a certain 'dislike' or doublespeaked 'dislike' of women, though. lol Then there is this whole contingent who like to talk about guns and killing...and then roasting. Literally!
  
  I mean! Can you imagine somebody talking to you like this in a public place...like at work for small talk?
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Mighty Momposted 13 years ago
LOL SP -- like a moth to a flame, eh? Right back into the Politics Forum, I see .
I must say, I did not expect to come on here and find a discussion of American Beauty! But hey, I think it's FAB!!!
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  Leta Sposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  We're having fun! And it seems to be working, ! lol
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  SweetiePieposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  American Beauty is much more interesting than some of the other stuff they have been talking about lately . Glad to see you back too!
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Mighty Momposted 13 years ago
American Beauty is a gem. Kevin Spacey is one of my all-time fave actors. Annette Benning, too.
Sorry I feel like I've missed out on the buildup of this thread.
So I'll just watch and listen and maybe come up with something to contribute! MM
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SweetiePieposted 13 years ago
The real estate king was pretty amusing too . They hide behind their avatars because they would not have the gumption to say these things in public. If they did I would feel very sorry for them.
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Mighty Momposted 13 years ago
Um, Lita... this IS a public place:-).
But no, I cannot imagine anyone at work having the chutzbah to make such silly claims and get away with them.
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Mighty Momposted 13 years ago
I'm sorry to have to leave before I even got the hang of what you two are talking about. Hubby needs me to "help him" put sheets on the bed. He cannot even find the sheets.
I will refrain from making a reverse sexist comment
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  Leta Sposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  haha. That's one of my jobs in the relationship too, Good night, MM...you are welcome back when you'd like to be.
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Leta Sposted 13 years ago
I miss a few of these, evidently. Who was the real estate king?

And yeah. I cannot imagine doing what they do for no other reason than to be nasty and be amused. I probably couldn't sleep at night. And you are right...the truly odious all have avatars, no photos.
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  tksenseiposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  I reckon you'll be awake for a loooooong time then.
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  SweetiePieposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  The real estate king was the guy Annette Benning was having the affair with. I just thought it was comical she referred to him that way. One of my favorite scenes is when she and the real estate king get caught together in the drive through Kevin Spacey was working.
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  A Texanposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  Y'all were having quite the intellectual conversation or at least as deep as your shallow minds will allow
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  SweetiePieposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  Are you kidding? American Beauty is actually considered a pretty deep movie in some ways. Some professors have actually used parts of it in introductory sociology classes.
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  Leta Sposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  Not to mention, beautiful as a piece of art... a movie. Just beautiful cinematography & thematically well done.
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  A Texanposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  Really? Deep? Thats great I just thought it was about a pedophile and a girl with daddy issues. That would explain your attraction.
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  Ralph Deedsposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  American Beauty won the best pic Oscar for its black comedic depiction of what's wrong in River City--between husbands in dead end jobs and ambitious wives, between retired Tex-like military officers and their gay sons, boob jobs for teenage girls and so forth. Spacey and Bening nailed their roles.
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  SweetiePieposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  You are very two faced jibbersih. You get all smiley about rude comments people make, and then come to certain hubs pretending to be a nice as sugar. But then on other ones you tell me I am not allowed to have my opinion.
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  SweetiePieposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  You know you are a very nasty man. American Beauty is a deep movie because it looks at different sociological and psychological aspects of families behind the scenes. I do not identify with any characters in it, but I find your comments to be misogynistic. This is why I told people not to be upset about the things fiery says about movies because he is a nice guy, but you are just a bitter person. The things people say in the political forum are much worse than the others, except maybe for religion, but you are the one that is going to have to live with these comments.
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  A Texanposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  I think I'll be fine but I'm worried that you may be too sensitive for the real world. Its a good thing you have created this fantasy that you are wise and all knowing otherwise we may find you curled up in the fetal position sobbing
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  SweetiePieposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  I have been on this site for two years and I am definitely not living in a fantasy world. You do not even use your real picture on here and hide behind an avatar. Maybe it is easier for you to say these ridiculously nasty things to women because of the perceived anonymity. Honestly if you say to people they have daddy issues because they like a movie you are the one that is out of it. It is very easy to hide behind an avatar and say these outrageous things!
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  A Texanposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  And I know you're a woman how? Because of the picture you have up? Right, this isn't the internet where anybody can say they are a woman but actually be a man? Fantasy, its your thing!
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  SweetiePieposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  I have posted about over fifty pictures of me and my family on my hubs. I even have a picture of me and my friend at the LA County Fair. Unlike you I do not make nasty comments, and I do not hide behind an avatar to say outrageous things. Does your wife know you talk to women like this?
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  A Texanposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  Does your mommy know you are up this late?
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  SweetiePieposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  I am an independent thirty year old woman, and I do not have a husband to answer to. If I were married I would not be trolling the Internet to seek out other men, as you seem to be doing with women. Maybe you should go spend some quality time with your wife instead of following women here on the hubs.
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  A Texanposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  You seem to be responding to what I say so who is harassing who? Grow up and act like an adult and you won't be treated like a child, if you respond to this then I guess the question of who is harassing who has been answered
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  SweetiePieposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  Anyone who can read knows you and sneakerworld have harassed me. You implied I have daddy issues because of a movie I like. And that is not something that is okay to say on this forum. Sorry, but you do not know the spirit of community!
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  A Texanposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  Ok whatever you say, you are a glittering jewel of colossal ignorance! Now go bother someone else!
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  sneakorocksolidposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  Sneakerworld!? Thats it put'em up Pixie!
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  sneakorocksolidposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  You don't want to see his picture! Not good! Not good! You ever heard of Medussa?
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  SweetiePieposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  Actually it would be nice if both him and you posted a picture. At least then I would feel like your funny comments had more of a point. Right now it is just hiding. Why not own up to the things you want to say?
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  sneakorocksolidposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  Look SP I'm not being mean, I'm just going to say something, Ok? I'm not being a smartass either, you ready? I don't know how. I'll have to have my son help me but he doesn't think that will help you understand how strange I am.
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  Leta Sposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  Oh, yeah! LOL And even though he was a stereotype, there was still great truth in the character. Real estate is a big business here...very glossy, shiny & salesy! What a cheesy special guy--type "A" for shur, .
  
  I love that movie.
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  SweetiePieposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  The real estate king is very stereotypical for sure. I just think he is a funny character in the movie honestly .
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  Leta Sposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  He is. What makes it funny is that some guys actually think they need to be like that. And women think sometimes "success" is to have a guy like that. All very cheesy/funny. 'specially the burgers. lol
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imadorkposted 13 years ago
Obama is stupid...so there!
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tksenseiposted 13 years ago
Now we have the liberals fawning over Hollywood idiots. Is there any cliche that hasn't been covered yet?
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Leta Sposted 13 years ago
Wooooooosh, right over their heads, as usual. It so tickles me, .
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  Ralph Deedsposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  Par for the course for the dog who sniffs and sprays bushes, trees, fire hydrants and liberals.
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tksenseiposted 13 years ago
More creativity comrade?
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Ralph Deedsposted 13 years ago
July 22, 2009 10:43 pm Link

Race clearly played a role in the Gates incident both on the part of the policeman and in Gates reaction to the situation. In my personal experience, over-reaction by police to what they perceive as insufficient deference or lack of respect toward them by citizens is not confined to white police toward minority citizens although considerably less common. Police over-react with some frequency toward whites as well when they feel they are being dissed. Over-reaction by African American policemen toward blacks and toward whites occurs also.

I attribute police over-reaction to race, to lack police training on how to deal with all citizens with courtesy and respect without losing their temper, and failure of police department leadership to deal firmly with offenders. Inappropriate behavior toward citizens by police occurs also because as members of the law enforcement community policemen can usually do so with impunity. Also, it may be that the police work attracts more than its share of bullies.

Chris Rock offers some humor and advice on this subject–
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uj0mtxXEGE8

— Ralph Deeds
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  A Texanposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  Just because the Officer arrested the bad guy doesn't mean he lost his temper! I guess you think every time a minority is arrested its because the cop lost his temper? There really are no criminals in your world except Bush and Cheny, right? By the way Ralph they're going to get away with whatever it is you think they did.
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sneakorocksolidposted 13 years ago
Ralph! Hey look I get the neanderthal knuckle thing. Whats a "nattering nabob"?

Ralph you don't argue with the police! It's , 'Yes sir, No sir' period. If you have a problem with the treatment you recieved you file a complaint. Thats both simple and easy but, I've heard book smart people don't have a whole lot common sense.
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Mighty Momposted 13 years ago
Wow, A Texan
Do you have a problem with all women, or it is just ones who are smart and also young that threaten your masculinity?
I came in trying to see where this thread is at and am really shocked at the level of your attacks on SweetiePie.
What's up with that?
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  SweetiePieposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  Basically they hate me so much because I like Obama, and I am not afraid to say it. If I wrote forum posts about how I supported Sarah Palin and liked war movies they would not even being saying half the things they say to me.
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  blue dogposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  sweetie pie, they'd be drooling over you like they do over sarah pain in the...
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  SweetiePieposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  Yeah one man in our community had the hots for Sarah Palin. When McCain lost he attacked an elderly lady who said she voted for Obama.
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  A Texanposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  Wow mighty Mom who said I was attacking her? Oh yeah her, did anybody happen to notice who my response was left to? Wasn't her was it? If she or you want to say stupid things then I will respond in kind if not go on about your business. Somehow I think you will want to make a party of it, so you post and I'll laugh, how bout that?
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  SweetiePieposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  I never said anything stupid. You on the other, quoted me and said something very insulting. You know I am actually very adult because I have not reported you on your over the top comments. Fiery got reported for making comments about people in movies, and they thought that was offensive? Obviously they do not read this forum.
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  jiberishposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  I have read some really nasty things, however, we still have freedom of speech, and the freedom not to come into forum. I think.
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  SweetiePieposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  I will continue to come in the forum.
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  blue dogposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  actually, you're on the internet. it's everybody's business, and you're still center stage.
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  A Texanposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  Hey Blue Duck, shouldn't you be at Oat Willies or some other over the hill hippie palace? Still can't believe Austin changed huh? Sucks to be you!
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  Leta Sposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  Smart, young, attractive, liberal. Their favorite kind, .
  
  And very scary...
  
  And SP, you seem to be on roll tonight.
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  SweetiePieposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  Something in me tonight just cannot stop pointing out their absurdity.
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  blue dogposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  you're going to be busy for quite a while. actually, you'll be working overtime, and that's just on their absurdity.
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  A Texanposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  I love smart,young and attractive too bad you are all just letters on a screen. The chance that you are any of the above and I will miss my chance with such strong attractive women is a chance I'm willing to take! Pfffffffffffffft
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  girly_girl09posted 13 years agoin reply to this
  My favorite phrase that I use all the time and will occasionally say right to a guy's face:
  
  "Wow....does that make you feel like a big, strong man?"
  
  I used to work in pretty much an all man's world and there are a few rotten ones anywhere. I would like to add that the BIGGEST impact you can ever have on someone is to simply ignore them. It's the best thing that you can do to frustrate anyone in this situation.
  
  All my friends absolutely love that phrase and it brings about hysterics every single time I use it. It's all about the delivery, too (you need to use a little pout and a sort of sad, sarcastic voice)....maybe I should make a youtube video as an example.
  
  Anyhow, I really think there needs to be a few, if not a million, studies conducted as to why people act different online, than off. It is truly interesting! I think the psychological community could greatly benefit from this research.
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  A Texanposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  Good Idea, think I'll ignore them. Thanks for the advice!
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  blue dogposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  if the hubpages community could only be so fortunate.
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  Leta Sposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  GG... This is the "base." Hopefully, you'll know how to reel then in. Oh, but you left politics. Not your job after all.
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  SweetiePieposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  I guess I could have ignored them, but why should I? Honestly I ignored them the other day when they did this, and they continue to do it. Oh well, let them have their odd fun I guess.
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  girly_girl09posted 13 years agoin reply to this
  Cold turkey. That is what will make it stop.
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  SweetiePieposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  I could try that, but the thing is many times I do want to post here. I will still post, but I suppose I will just have the resist the temptation to respond when they say something I find to be attacking .
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  girly_girl09posted 13 years agoin reply to this
  Lita, I truly hope you don't think this is the base. Although, I think you might. hahaha It's more fun that way, right? Is it even necessary for me to say that there are crazies on every end of the spectrum? Nah, we both know that.
  
  I am pretty sure I've met many more conservatives than you have. (Just a little hunch...) Again, this is definitely not the base. I'm pretty sure I've worked and met with many more conservatives that you have. To say that I'd want to be associated a base like that, would be not only incorrect but perhaps an insult, too.
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  Leta Sposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  Well, GG. I am a native Nebraskan, and my dad has turned into a Republican. So! I've actually met and lived among quite a few conservatives...but then again there in the midwest, it doesn't >quite< mean the same thing, I've found.
  
  They are, however, whipped up by Glen Beck (all love him here writing on this thread) and sometimes Limbaugh. They definitely appear to think they are conservatives. But I am happy to see you don't want to claim them. It is about time a conservative with conscience would call them what they are. You mentioned...crazies. Thank you.
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  blue dogposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  somehow, we all knew it would be short-lived.
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  A Texanposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  I guess you can cry now Duck boy
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Mighty Momposted 13 years ago
No, I think it's more than that. You threaten them for some reason and they have no other way to deal with it than to juvenilize you. It's irrational and pathetic, really.
Lots of people on here support Obama and say so openly.

Once again, a thread that could have been (or maybe was -- 200 posts ago) a debate about who was right, who was wrong in the Gates arrest has degenerated into pointless personal attacks.

I think it's time to go find a new thread and some civil discourse. Wanna come?
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  SweetiePieposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  I will definitely join you there!
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Mighty Momposted 13 years ago
A Texan.
Do you think "Does your mommy know you are up this late?" is an appropriate thing to ask a fellow hubber?
I think it's belittling and dismissive.
And I don't imagine it's a question you would ask of a male.
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  A Texanposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  Yeah I think its appropriate, I'm just trying to protect the children!
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Mighty Momposted 13 years ago
Here's another example of extreme rudeness toward SweetiePie:

"Ok whatever you say, you are a glittering jewel of colossal ignorance! Now go bother someone else!"

Did you get that line from George Bush? It makes about as much sense as something he would say!
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  SweetiePieposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  Thanks for the support MM . They enjoy making those comments, but will have to live with them too.
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Mighty Momposted 13 years ago
Hi GG. Is that a new photo? It's really nice.
Now, I realize I am putting myself at huge risk here by saying that, as someone will find something communist about it.
But I figure it's worth the risk.
It's a very flattering pic. MM
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  girly_girl09posted 13 years agoin reply to this
  I'm not sure what would be communist about that, MM. lol. Thank you for your kind words. I appreciate it!
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  Mishaposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  I have to agree with MM. Not sure which pic I like better though, this or a previous one. Both are quite pretty.
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  girly_girl09posted 13 years agoin reply to this
  Thank you, Misha!
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Leta Sposted 13 years ago
I just want to say to that last comment: We do have the right to come to the forum and not be harassed. It isn't their "right" to belittle like they do.

And freedom of speech does not mean what you think it means. It's a political right and was always intended to be a political right.
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SirDentposted 13 years ago
At least one post on this thread reported.
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SweetiePieposted 13 years ago
I grew up in one of the more conservative communities in the United States. Everyone thinks California is very liberal, but San Bernardino and Riverside County are not. People would say you were misguided if you voted Democratic or Independent where I lived, but they never made it personal. I think on forums it is easier to do that.
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  Leta Sposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  Aeehhhh. There are always guys around like this. It is magnified because of the internet and the seeming anonymity.
  
  Many of Matt's conservative clients just love to kinda spew off color political assertions all over dinner. I am practiced at not saying anything at all. With some people, it seems the easiest thing to do. These are also the types that think it is perfectly OK to tell kinda off color jokes about women, and think others will all think it is funny, etc. I don't know quite what it is about; I usually think it something of a generational thing.
  
  Of course, Matt & I are exchanging glances with each other, like, Oh, My God, but I have learned to look past it and see them as people...meet on that level. And, well, they are his clients...so 'diplomacy,' lol, is necessary.
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  SweetiePieposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  I have to do the same thing too at work. I had someone ask about the Bush biographies and go on about what a hero he was, etc. I just nodded and said, that is great . Offline I do not even tell people what I think about politics unless I know they are slightly receptive.
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Mighty Momposted 13 years ago
Good attitude, SP. No reason to stay away from the forums. You have as much right to be here as anyone else.
It's entirely possible to have forum discussions without name-calling.
I see AT has slunk off. I will refrain from making any comments that would put me in the league of personal attack.
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jiberishposted 13 years ago
News Flash: Ap.....Van Jones Resigns....Hummm....could all the concerned conservatives been wrong?
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SweetiePieposted 13 years ago
Gee even people within the same party have say derogatory things about each other. It sounds like the White House felt pressured to ask him to resign because a few Republicans did not like his comments. I am not defending what he said, but he is not the only one to do so. Cheney has made many offensive comments, and he did not have to resign. Yes, some of us are still concerned about the role Cheney had in office. Even Bush stopped taking his advice during the second term because he realized voters were becoming weary of Cheney's staunch policies. Cheney did not observe the warm spit rule of the Vice Presidency like his predecessors.
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Mighty Momposted 13 years ago
And his forced resignation has absolutely nothing to do with his fitness for the job.
I hope this will be the last hatchet job Obama allows in his administration.
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  Leta Sposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  What was the reason, MM? If you know? I won't have to google, .
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  nicompposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  Hatchet job? BHO prefers to wield the hatchet.
  
  Attacks Wall Street CEOs.
  Attacks hedge fund managers who wouldn't capitulate to him in the Chrysler bankruptcy proceedings (turned out to be retirement fund managers, but he meant well).
  Attacks Boston police, then admits in the same breath be doesn't know all the facts.
  Attacks Republicans and accuses them of obstructing his health care 'reform' while refusing them a seat at the table.
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