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Best Answer Ann Leavitt says
You have mention exactly what this question is all about ! thank you for your wonderful answer ! It is so nice to meet you Ann !You certainly have shared some good points ! We all must examin our attitude with our worship to the Heavenly Father
The best of answer really I like it.
Very precise and clear explanation of what's acceptable to Jehovah God and what's not when it comes to one's religion. Also, a religion that caters to and excepts the traditions of men is not acceptable to God (Mark 7:1-13).
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An answer I can readily accept as coming from someone who has actually given the question some thought. We all need to develop a philosophy that is acceptable to all levels of our being: body, mind and spirit, and this one sounds like it does.
TY, Tom, kind of you to say. I agree about developing a philosophy that works for us, which is why it's not one-size-fits all. It's more about finding the best fit.
Thank you you Mackenzie for your reply . I agree you admit and agree you worship your choice ! The true God knows .but I believe we must be at our own buiness in faith .And be sure that what ever we do in worship is long lasting in life and future.
N, again you misunderstand. You told me repeatedly ur God hates me. I say it's sad you believe that. I'm not commenting on your God, or even Xtianity. I'm saying I'm sad for U, to live with a negative, sad, hateful, fearful point of view like that.
The majority here is Xtian, that is why I'm 'in the midst' of talking to Christians. I don't have a problem with that, as most do not conduct themselves as you do.
Don't really care what you think your God or book says about me & my Gods.
Why? You keep leaving comments on my answer! So out of courtesy I respond when people direct comments/emails/questions/etc to me. Note I have yet to initiate a conversation with you. I'm just responding, ridiculous as your comments can be.
Yes, leave it at that. Exactly... I only worry about what my Gods say. You need to follow what you believe, and leave me to follow what I believe.
GMO = Genetically Modified Organisms. And they're not killing us, that's just a conspiracy theory.
Since the dawn of agriculture humans have been 'tampering.' Antibiotics, immunizations, etc. are 'tampering'. Heart surgery, kidney transplant, cavity fillings-- 'tampering.' GMOs are not always perfect, but they're not unsafe.
Tom thank you for your comment I wanted to say this earlier but you did not have a reply box.
You are appreciated for your imput thanks.
Well said, WiccanSage. I don't worry about what someone else's god thinks. How they choose to worship is fine for them, but that's not my god. My view of it is, people who worry about how others worship are insecure in their faith.
Very interesting view Mackenzie S W.
What you have said has some truth.
I will address that and that is your gods do not care. True.
My God and Father does , he has worked out a survival plan for humans who want to continue life free from sickness
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Thank you for your very interesting answer , I agree that if a person should see others as unworthy it is a major failure. I believe you have express this very well.
Because we can not judge another human equal to ouself
From Gods laws he evented
You are presenting an awful and grossly intolerant warped idea of religion here. It is obsessive, ugly and sinful. I have met agnostic and even atheists with more "religion" than you. Goodbye.
The point was that God's people should have done what the Samaritan did, not that the Samaritan's religion was correct. People doing something correct in one aspect of life don't make them correct on all aspects.
Has the day of Pentecost already happened or are we to still wait for "It"?
A simple yes or no question not a question for you to question my understanding. Where in the scripture does it tell Norine to wait? Where does scripture tell Norine to tell other people to wait? Chapter and verse please. Has the spirit come?
You have not provide one single chapter or verse that tells Norine or any other person to go and wait for the Holy Spirit, could that be because that event has already happen? Has Jesus already sent the Holy Spirit?
Again I'm not talking about tons of other things that disciples of Christ have done or will do.
Chapter and verse for your famous "WAIT" or "YOU HAVEN"T WAITED" or something close to that statement. There must be chapter and verse you say it?
I read every reference you give, and NONE of them say that you or anyone else is to go and WAIT as you put it. You are making up the WAIT thing. No scripture to back up what you say, you know what that makes you?
This is some serious avoidance of a straight forward question of inquiry.
It seems to me that through some translation and transliteration the word wait has supplanted patience. Patience is still being active, wait indicates inaction.
Again, no reference. The Apostles were to wait. Has not what they were waiting for already happened? Was it not the Holy Spirit they were told to wait for? Has it not been sent? Why do you direct others to wait with out scripture? Are You waiting?
Hmm? Christ told them to cast a net a certain way. Not me. Christ told Peter he would falter before the rooster crowed. Not me. I think he told one to get out of the tree. Not me. He told another not to tell of the miracle. Not me. Circumcision?
It just struck me Norine that a derogatory comment from you is really a compliment.
I'm done, as long as everyone knows your waiting directives are something you have made up, they can believe deception or ignore it, their choice. I already knew you were wrong.
Thank you again, to see your modus operandi in action is priceless. People need to know that disagreement with Norine's understanding is to be sided with Satan. I notice you haven't found your famous wait command yet. Hint: it's not there.
Acts 1:4 was not directed at you or me, and even if it was the event has already happened. You want the holy spirit? read John 14 15-17. Nothing there about waiting until Norine thinks you got it. Perhaps following directions would be a better withes
An unrepentant mind and heart does not know the things of God Norine, Repent, stop the rationalization and diversion.
Joh 14:15-16 "If you love Me, you will keep My commandments. "I will ask the Father, and He will give you another Helper (HS), that He may be with you forever; No waiting, just go and sin no more. (One of his commandments) Repent.
Norine it was Jesus asking the Father to send the Holy Spirit to those that Keep His (Jesus) commandments. One of Jesus commandments was to go and sin no more. You have not repented and believe you can continue in sin, that is darkness, repent.
1cor 9:22 does not say "to the sinner I became a sinner" Repent
The active in unrepentant sin shall not enter the kingdom of God. The blood doesn't cover your sin, it allows it to be forgiven assuming you stop. Your heart can be changed, it starts with repentance. Repent turn away from the foul and vulgar.
Add denial when you get around to realizing that you need to repent.
Repent from what?
LOL you know. Isa 43:25 "I, I am he who blots out your transgressions for my own sake, and I will not remember your sins. Is the way God has always been, repent, turn to Him and He will forgive, that is New and Old Covenant. Repent
Norine I did not ask you to insult and call people names !
You say this woman ask us , are you referring to you and the Demons ! Because that's exactly who you sound like. Through with you.
Also misfit its my question and call to make sure no one is attacked on my account based on the question . You can not tell me how I feel about that .
And I will do what ever I can to rectify the situuation.
Hp allows it.
Misfit let her save you ! Jesus did not use this abusive manor .he was kind and merciful, it's a turn off ! Its the very thing that atheist love because it's barbaric. They know it's wrong , call them one and see .
You speak according to your own.
Misfit maybe you forgot comments she made in your Hubs , your replies is not she's fine.
Notice , "Norine, you are becoming a borderline stalker. "
You also told her to go find some one else to save.
You say one thing , but you do another misfit
What you allowed her to do is fine for you ! But not for me.
That's all , and again you told her to go save some one else.
You are not consistent .
Stephanie written Mt 6:6But when you pray, go into your private room and, after shutting your door, pray to your Father who is in secret. Then your Father who looks on in secret will repay you.Some things are between you and the Father,
Norine you say read and study ,but when some one else doesit now what is your religion.I do not know Ann L.
But she did a very good job with scriptures and getting to the purpose of the question.
This is a personal exam for ones self with Father .
Another thing the mustard seed was at that time well known to that Generation of people , some people today have never seen one ,it does not mean this is not true .
You would be better developing your points from your hubs.
Misfit in your world this is your battle !
You express that in your own hubs and question.
You are not on my question , but your own.
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Eric Dierker says
Thank you Eric ! You are so right its basically each and everyones relationship as one on one. As the diciples followed Jesus and worshiped who Jesus worshiped and prayed to Jehovah. They each had to still mantain their own relationship with them.
"each Christian views God differently"
True, which is why we study and keep trying on different glasses until we see things clearly as they truly are. There is only one God, the prescription to see Him clearly is not yet worn by all.
No one denies whom or where the vision correction will come from. Many claim to have 20/20 concerning scripture yet their expressed understanding shows the need for an eye doctor. Do you wear glasses? I do, my prescription changes, yours?
I think disciples know who the eye doctor is. But the question is raised, why do you imply you have 20/20 when many others see you as need an eye check up? You argue a lot, that is a vision difference thing. Your glasses make my vision a blur.
Thank you for your concern. I am not the one so vulgar on the treads that hub pages has to delete the entire thread. Your fruits/actions show the spirit you have.
I Cor 9:22 is not an excuse for a foul vulgar mouth. Christ told the sinner caught to go and sin no more not to cherry pick scripture to rationalize their sin. Man doesn't need to see the heart he can see the fruit, rotten, vulgar, foul language.
I don't need to repent of a foul vulgar mouth, Ms. finger pointer. I would suspect an unrepentant sinner should not be giving advice to no one. (isn't that a hypocrite?)
An unrepentant heart doesn't know blasphemy, to continue in sin is only darkness, and to rationalize one's sin is a loosing battle, only darkness would attempt such things. Repent
The new covenant does not allow you to continue to talk like the darkness in the hearts and minds of foul vulgar speaking people. You are righteous only if you do righteous things, a vulgar foul speaking tounge is not righteous, Repent.
1Jn 3:8 the one who practices sin is of the devil; for the devil has sinned from the beginning. The Son of God appeared for this purpose, to destroy the works of the devil.
Repent, change the heart that speaks foul vulgar language as OK.
This is about an unrepentant heart that was able to spew foul vulgar language, rationalizing that to the sinner I became a sinner. The blood of Jesus is not for active sinners, Repent.
Those that claim to walk in the light because He is in the light do not do things of darkness. No example in Christ of a foul vulgar disrespecting mouth, who taught you that is was OK? Turn away from such things and repent.
Your belief that you can remain in and practice sin (as long as you are witnessing) is a doctrine of darkness, to be perfectly OK with the things of darkness is telling. That is an excellent example of blasphemy against the Holy Spirit.
1Co 11:25 In the same way also he took the cup, after supper, saying, "This cup is the new covenant in my blood. Do this, as often as you drink it, in remembrance of me."
The blood of the new covenant doesn't allow for active sin, repent.
He only forgets them if you quit doing them, how complicated is that, sounds like a very forgiving God to me. Repent.
BEST ANSWER BY FAR!!!!!
These spirit fallen Angels are demon gods.
No they dont care because they want you to die forever like Adam and Eve. But that is not what our creator wants
He wants paradise on earth. And he will get it done rather people support it or not.
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Michael McNabb says
It should be evident by the religious bible quoting voices of the world, you will never please any of them. Your approach, You and God has a better chance than any of the man made religious processes.
And Satan told them that a foul vulgar sailors mouth was acceptable in the temple of the living God. Out of the heart the mind spoke, change your heart, Repent
I'll take that as a confession, now all that needs to follow is repentance and turning away from the vulgar foul heart that caused the mouth to speak in such a way. He made me do it is not a repentant statement.
The only unbelief I'm seeing is that you don't believe you should repent of foul vulgar language that requires the world to police. In the world but not of the world requires turning away, repenting and sinning no more.
It is not ok for a child of God to Sin.
The spirit of God is everywhere but that is not justification for those that "Claim" to be his to commit sin and then rationalize and twist scripture to justify the darkness they are in.
Heb 3:19 So we see that they were unable to enter because of unbelief.
Excellent scripture, your unbelief that even under the New Covenant you are not allowed to turn away from God and sin. You quote the scriptures, thy following them.
If you are not forgiven of your sins because you never repented or asked to be forgiven you are a sinner, and there are no sinners in the kingdom of God, Old or New covenant. The Blood of the new covenant is not a license to sin.
Michael (I hope you stuck around through the crazy to get this) Thank you for sharing this. I had not heard a story like this before. I will give it some time to ponder.
Misfit lets be real ! Norine also called you ignort and fool , it was not fine then nor is now . And you are the one that decides what right and wrong about the scriptures , tell us please what is right about them, because you condemn .
Misfit if you want to be Norine 's fool and ignort person that is you .but no one else has to live up to it or take it. Your passion is not another you keep yours , I will settle for mine.
So you are not human a wo(man) you define that.
So much to say in 250 characters
Thank you Micheal ! some how I missed your comment earl!
I must say I do not think people forget what would cause a great change in life. I think the Father is always himself
We just have to change for the good not because of human error.
Misfit you youself admit if you own a question you can do as you please , you are in charge.
Jesus is not the Father he is the son of God who also prays to the Father.
Notice the scripture she gives is from the old testment.
Valid he can as want
Misfit we came into this world because the Father wanted it , he does as he pleases rather we agree or disagree in any matter , we do not own anything , neither if we die. I was saying if he hates somthing he owns it we dont.
Thank you Adoamang! I am happy you agree !
Free from death. We have lived under the so called gods of this system allowed to prove a point. They hate humans , they know the finally of bad practices. Knowing full well. That humans will die if they.ignore the Father moral standards.
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Tamara Wilhite says
Interesting Tamara I am laughing at the last part of your comment ! really well I am sure his mother had him there
If that was the case lol! But on a serious note I totally agree you agree to the terms of that faith if it is X religion.
In christianity,Jesus wants a small place in your heart.He only want the people to follow what he said.He didn't told about any rituals.
GOD doesn't want "a piece" of our heart but ALL of our heart! "Love the LORD thy GOD with ALL thy heart..." (Matt22:37)!
TRUE! "NO MORE RITUALS" (Communion or Holy Eucharist) for "CHRIST HAS DONE IT ALL!"
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Kathleen Cochran says
Yes I did and I left you a comment on your very good Hub .Thanks Kathleen I apologize for not seeing your comment sooner , I work and many times now I read late at night replies , looking forward to reading more of your work. You have alot to read !
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Stephanie Weemhoff says
Thank you Stephanie for your share in the question.
And really the question was for us individuals to think about not complement me or either praise for that should be directed to the Heavenly Father Jehovah.
So should our prayers in secret.
"Do you accept compliments and praise that are not directed at you?"
No, but when I see someone being kind to someone else, I still acknowledge that they are being kind. I have a hard time believing that God is more self-absorbed than I am.
Misfit the heart does not lie , the tongue does , we can talk all day on HP but what matters is whats deep down inside that leads to your final actions of good and bad.
Cains jealously lead to kill his brother
We are people like them ,no different
Ayoub Jesus first ministry started with the Jews , then his deciples continued the work going door to door.
This work has not changed only until the word to stop.
People have a, idea, of what a, Christian is but only the definition , not living one
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Thank you Belisariusgw. Your comment is appreciated.
If you consider the scriptures in the best Answer God is a God of Order.
He does care ! If not the moon would not be on time, nore the sun. He is the master of order.
Misfit your question has nothing to do with the subject question.
But you already answered so I am satified with that.
Misfit I plainly ask a question you answered , but now youare doing extra then nessary ! Also you dont have to opinion my question and answers as BS. Just dont include yourself in them thats all.
I respectfully disagree.
Jesus was a radical for his time seeking spiritual truth.
Truth is found by serving others before yourself, regardless of religion.
Thank you for your comment BGW.
But if you Notice My question was based on the Heavenly Father , Not Jesus his son.
Psalms 83:18 .And thank you for your kind respect.
We can agree and disagree , but with respect. If you can not do that misfit which you do not want to ! Then you should move on to another question , this one is not for you.
I mention Jesus as an example of a man who defied orthodox religious beliefs of his respective era in search of truth.
His truth was indeed finding the Heavenly Father (the main subject of your question).
BGW Jesus was not a regular man as yourself. He was created by the Heavenly Father for a purpose no normal human could accomplish.
We need cures for death , sickness , crime, food shortages ,we need housing with out the tax of the land.
Freed you will have to pay a price to them because you took the offer.
The word of God does condemns witch craft , spells , omens, fortune telling .Duet 18:11. Any one !verse 12 says the person is destestble and he is driving them away from you
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Ayoub LEKEHAL says
If there is no Heavenly Father then there is no you .Isa 45:12 I made the earth and created man on it. You are a man and live on earth this is True. The one who made this possible is our Heavenly Father. So some one is misleading you.
Ayoub , why does your knowledge stop at AD , After death of Christ , you have missed a lot of phophesy that proves he was the ginuine Messiah .
He used a fleshly body to do a pacific job.
But his original form was and is now a, spirit body Angel.
No, my knowledge does not stop at AD,yours does,because you Christians still deny the very obvious facts.
I am saying that the Bible distorted by clergymen and those who want to rule such Constantine.
The proves of distortion are everywhere in..
Ayoub I am totally aware about Constantine , and the Edicts of Milan. But way before this was the case Jesus had already filled many homes and communities with the truth from accurate scrolls they carried. Despite Jewish rebellion Jesus finished .
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Very good comment Frumpton ! I truley like your sincerity of your answer I too believe our Heavenly Father is mercyful if we look back in history he has seen many generations come and go and tolerated alot of mouth abuse !
But way more patient.
You ran a circle around my statement of disagreement with your view that "the father does care" how we follow him.
I stand by
"Serve others before yourself, and the father will take you in."
Freed you feel like you saved your marriage !You needed to rely on the Heavenly Father for what ever you needed.He gives to those trusting in him.
I new a story simlar to yours and in the end the man tried to kill her and him both by the same means
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Abhaypreet Singh says
Ayoub. What you miss is the point why did a book exist . And really these were scrolls from Hebrew and Greek , this is before Constantine.
So now let's talk before that period the orignal scrolls were distributed to many people around the world .
Rich Kelley says
Thank you Rich ! The best part of your comment is a powerful one ' It is the teachings of other gods that separate us from the living God. When our beliefs are God's beliefs then we will be in one accord and not separated thus accepted.'
That would be "The" gospel, not the gospel seen via your corrective lens.
Clean up your act so that hub pages doesn't have to. Repent before you continue passing out spiritual advice.
So your judgment of someone vs your actual foul vulgar unrepentant mouth, which will be forgiven? Out of the heart your mouth spoke. I nor anyone else should spend time considering anything that comes from a heart in darkness, repent.
Your heart saw fit to type foul vulgar language that resulted in hub pages deleting the entire thread. Those kinds of actions are not from a light shining on a hill, they are darkness, repent.
No one said what Peter did was right, Christ put it back on. Allow Christ to heal the results of your foul vulgar unrepentant heart, instead of looking for loop holes. If you don't want to be accused when He returns you need to repent and turn away.
1John 2:29 If you know that He is righteous, you know that everyone who practices righteousness is born of Him.
The topic is still, despite your distractive spirit, a disrespectful foul vulgar spirit that talks via a keyboard. Comfortable with it?
I would like like to apologize for to Rich and Planks and anyone that has a experienced your cruel behavior on my Question . Please exclude yourself from my question !
I sure Jesus is not proud of your conduct ! No one is but you!
Hi gmwilliams ! I like Rich answers he even uses scriptures to explain his meaning ! I appreciate this about him !
Its nice gmwilliams you came by to share your point.
You did and I thank you for that , but now you are attacking people for the same right you have . I know the difference .thank you.
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Kiss andTales says
Luk 6:45 The good person out of the good treasure of his heart produces good, and the evil person out of his evil treasure produces evil, for out of the abundance of the heart his mouth speaks.
God shows us the heart by what one speaks.
Misfit what you said is correct of you not being sure.
you are not sure does not mean it did not happen.
The bible said he created man
Ge 1:27And God went on to create the man in his image, in God’s image he created him; male and female.
Misfit you have not once define pagan from truth. Instead you claim pagan to every belief anybody quotes from ! You error here. Define before you condemn.
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