New Idle feature seem to be affecting indexing of articles

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   Cardisaposted 12 years ago

   Usually I can find my articles on Google within a few hours, sometimes minutes. Now it seems I can't even find my articles on the site for more than 36 hours after they are published.
   
   I believe the new idle feature is affecting how hubs are indexed. Doesn't this affect traffic? What is causing this to happen?
   
   HP promises that the hub will be removed from idle status within 24 hours but it stays in the idle mode much longer.
   
   I am asking that the newly published hubs leave the idle status within the specified time and that any glitch that would affect indexing be fixed.

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      cactusbytheseaposted 12 years agoin reply to this

      Have you edited your "Pending" Hubs at all after submitting them and before they are marked as "Published"?  Apparently the 24 hour "Pending" period is reset if you touch your Hub at all during that time. This why some Hubbers are experiencing very long wait times before a Hub will publish.  This information is from a post just made today by a HP Staff member.  You can see it here :
      http://hubpages.com/forum/topic/102577? … ost2194173
      
      I think a few Hubbers would have appreciated a warning about editing "Pending" Hubs before this change went into effect.

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         Cardisaposted 12 years agoin reply to this

         No, I haven't done that. But I always check to see if my hubs are indexed and how soon. The new hubs seem to take a few days before I see them in search. The other day, I couldn't even find my hub on the site, even in the new hubs pages.

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            Marisa Wrightposted 12 years agoin reply to this

            This is something that was mentioned before, and it would be good to have it clarified.
            
            I understood that an "Idle" Hub wouldn't be indexed by Google, but it was still visible within the HubPages community.  However in practice, it seems that an "Idle" Hub is visible only to people who've got the link, because it doesn't appear anywhere - in new Hubs, tag pages or searches.

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      Matthew Meyerposted 12 years agoin reply to this

      The initial idle period for a Hub is 24 hours.
      If you edit the Hub then that resets the Hub to 24 hours again.
      
      Idle Hubs are searchable on the site and you can get to them directly via their URL.
      
      There is much more info related to this topic in the Blog post for Idle Hubs.
      You can find that blog post and related discussion here:
      http://blog.hubpages.com/2012/08/introducing-on-idle/

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         Cardisaposted 12 years agoin reply to this

         Hi Matthew, I know I can get to the hub via it's URL but some hubbers do like to check the category pages to see their hub after being published. I also like to see if my hub is categorized as hot or not. Usually within a few hours you will see the hub on the latest hubs page and withing a day you will see it on the hot hubs page. Now it seems that no matter how many hits and comments I get for a new hub, it doesn't show up on the latest or hot hubs pages.
         
         BTW Matthew, I like how vigilant you are. I really appreciate the work you are doing. You have a new fan here.

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            Matthew Meyerposted 12 years agoin reply to this

            Are all the time-frames you mentioned those from before the introduction of Idle Hubs?
            
            My understanding is that a Hub will not show in hot, etc. until that period has lapsed.
            
            This Learning Center has a bit more info.
            http://hubpages.com/learningcenter/Feat … -Idle-Hubs
            
            We are working to update the FAQ to address some of these questions as well.
            
            Also, thanks for the kind words!

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               Cardisaposted 12 years agoin reply to this

               maybe this idle thing should not include new hubs but those sitting wihtout traffic for a while. New hubs with the potential for organic traffic should not have to wait especially for accounts that have been getting steady traffic from outside. HP should have an idea whose hubs are usually indexed by Google quickly and whose hubs take a while. I really think new hubs should be given the chance to be free!
               
               Let the search engines do their jobs. If the hub is search friendly it will be indexed if not it will not be picked up by Google or other search engines, then it can go into idle mode and hubbers will know that their hubs need tweaking.

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                  Dale Hydeposted 12 years agoin reply to this

                  This sounds like a great solution! Very well stated! I agree.

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               Cardisaposted 12 years agoin reply to this

               I just thought of something else. If the hubs take so loge to be indexed wont that affect us if/when our hubs get stolen? Usually Google was able to pick up our hubs as soon as published so that if someone should steal them they can tell the difference. Now as is, someone can steal our hubs and publish before they get indexed, I cringe to think about going through that again!

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         janderson99posted 12 years agoin reply to this

         The real issue is that it is taking more than 5 days for some hubs to get indexed after the 24 hour period when they are 'featured' and the NOINDEX tag is removed. It appears to take much longer now to get pages indexed than it did before even after the extra 24 hours delay. Any explanation for this? It varies at lot for no apparent reason.

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      Dale Hydeposted 12 years agoin reply to this

      I have had new and idle hubs take well over 24 hours myself before Google would pick them up. I even tried to force Google to index the hubs using Google Webmaster, but to no avail.
      
      I certainly do agree that this is not cool at all.  Especially for new material by members who have had no issues in the past with what they publish.  This is what they used to do to members who had to be reviewed for various REASONS...making them wait.  Now it is unilateral.

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   psycheskinnerposted 12 years ago

   I think the comment might relate more to the new 'pending' thing existing at all.  If Google like fresh stuff, suppressing new material seems counter-intuitive.  So the hub has some change of being indexed starting at 24 hours, but then there is the usual period it takes for the bots to find it (another 24-hours or more).

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   janderson99posted 12 years ago

   It appears to vary quite a lot. I have one article publsihed on 2nd Sept that has been indexed while another indexed on 31 Aug has not. Very annoying!

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