QAP being applied to old Hubs

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   wildernessposted 10 years ago

   I had a hub idled about a week ago, a dumpy old hub that I didn't like anyway.  I've let it sit idled since then, trying to decide what to do with it.  Sorting the stats screen with the "featured" tab produces two idled hubs; one I want to keep and this one recently idled.
   
   Until this morning, when the newly idled hub doesn't show up as being idled.  I'm ashamed to say I'm not even sure which one it was - it just hasn't carried a very high priority for me as it never did get any traffic.  In any case, I did not edit any hubs for the last few days.
   
   Unless idled hubs can come back to life by all by themselves, this looks like a glitch.  Sorry I can't give more information, but it's all I've got.  A heads up, anyway.

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      Gcrhoads64posted 10 years agoin reply to this

      Hub, heal thyself!

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      Simone Smithposted 10 years agoin reply to this

      Hmm, that's odd. Is there any way you could give us that Hub's title? It will be hard for us to look into this if we don't know what to look for, and it would not make sense for us to go through 168 Hubs to see the Featured status history of each one...

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         wildernessposted 10 years agoin reply to this

         Simone, I'm sorry but I can't.  I have several with very low monthly traffic but I just don't remember which one it was.
         
         According to the "changed" column, I edited one on the 24th, but it definitely wasn't that.  I "changed" one one the 22nd, and while I don't think that was it, it could have been.  The 22nd, though, is a long time past to sit pending since then.
         
         Wish I had more information for you, but I just don't.

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            janderson99posted 10 years agoin reply to this

            I thinks its 'Grace' with her magic wand - Stella's sister

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               wildernessposted 10 years agoin reply to this

               Must be - think I can get her back?

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                  janderson99posted 10 years agoin reply to this

                  Here she is Grace - (period)
                  
                  

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                     wildernessposted 10 years agoin reply to this

                     

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      Matthew Meyerposted 10 years agoin reply to this

      @wilderness If you can think of some examples Hubs, we can do further research to see what might be going on.

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         agilitymachposted 10 years agoin reply to this

         I had a hub that was not featured go featured.  I just put it into the deleted category as I never wanted it refeatured.  It's http://agilitymach.hubpages.com/hub/Aud … nce-Cycle.  It's also unpublished now, so I'm not sure you can even see it.   And this one MAY have been idled and refeatured.  I know one of my Shannara Trilogy book reviews went idle, and they are all featured now.  http://agilitymach.hubpages.com/hub/Boo … -Shannara.

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         wildernessposted 10 years agoin reply to this

         Matthew, my best guess (and it's only a guess) is that it was one of these two:
         
         http://wilderness.hubpages.com/hub/Inte … decreasing
         
         http://wilderness.hubpages.com/hub/Two- … h-The-Cost
         
         Interestingly, both of these are being played with by google; a search for the title (not url) shows up without the "Wilderness" part of the URL.  I've got a bunch of those, and every one is showing unusual traffic, including those two.  Is it possible that search traffic jumped in the last few days, and the hub went featured all by itself because of that?

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         wildernessposted 10 years agoin reply to this

         OK, Matthew - it's happened again, to one that has been idled for months now.  It has no traffic in the 7 day column and 1 in the 30 day.  In it's entire life (since 10/2010) it shows 36 search engine views.  Lots of views from links, but almost nothing from search engines.  By the graph on the hub, very little traffic - just a blip now and then - since 3-2011.
         
         It just now came out of idle.  Did it also just come out of the QAP?
         
         http://wilderness.hubpages.com/hub/maki … h-hubpages

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            Matthew Meyerposted 10 years agoin reply to this

            That Hub is showing it was featured 2 weeks ago.
            
            As for the traffic numbers, there is currently a known issue.
            You can find more details here:
            http://hubpages.com/forum/topic/111026

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               wildernessposted 10 years agoin reply to this

               Interesting.  I can assure you that it showed idled this morning and now it doesn't.  I check for idled hubs each morning, verifying that only the ones I know of are idled - usually around 7-8 AM MST.  If I'm around, I'll sometimes check at random times during the day as well, which is how I caught this one.  Nor is it indexed by Google, which I would certainly expect if it were featured 2 weeks ago.
               
               I had seen that traffic thread but hadn't paid a lot of attention - thanks.

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               wildernessposted 10 years agoin reply to this

               More developments; the hub referenced (making money with HP) is now idled again.
               
               I don't care - my intent was to leave it idled forever - but it does seem rather odd to have it become featured then idled just 4 days later. 
               
               I just mention it in case that there is some kind of glitch - I'd be a little irritated if it happened to a hub that I actually wanted to be featured!

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                  janderson99posted 10 years agoin reply to this

                  Has your hubber score declined a tad?
                  My theory is that some hubs lie on the cusp of falling off the cliff. Decline in hubber score may trigger removal of grace period benefits.

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                     wildernessposted 10 years agoin reply to this

                     I may have gone down a point or two, but I would think that any hubber score above 95 should have the same effect.  If so, it shouldn't be that - if it is, we could see hubs popping in and out of featured all the time.  Not a good thing, I would think.
                     
                     The only reason I mention it at all is because I understand any new programming can have unexpected results and this could be one such.  If I had the option I would put that hub on perpetual idle anyway as it will never see organic traffic.  It's not intended for anyone outside of hubbers.

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            janderson99posted 10 years agoin reply to this

            I think that this review of old hubs is going to create a nightmare of issues.
            I had a hub published 2 years ago suddenly get a reject notice for duplicate content (after  2 years)! A check using copyscape showed that the duplicates were all copies of my article!!! Ho Hum, What a Bum!

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               Matthew Meyerposted 10 years agoin reply to this

               Can you please provide the URL?

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                  janderson99posted 10 years agoin reply to this

                  Sorry mate! I've learned that the whole process is far too complicated and it takes too long to argue. I simply spent 20 minutes editing it, so it was clean with copyscape. Sad it was a good earner and I may have ruined it, but it was unpublished till fixed, so I had to do something. Its up and running again.  If I get another I'll let you know via direct email.
                  
                  Please don't unpublish hubs that are 2 years old for duplicate content that is all I ask.

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                     Matthew Meyerposted 10 years agoin reply to this

                     It shouldn't be occurring, so if you find an example, please let us know so we can research the issue further.

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      Matthew Meyerposted 10 years agoin reply to this

      I think this is related to our working through old Hubs and applying the QAP.
      http://hubpages.com/forum/topic/110804
      
      Here is the broad overview:
      Until recently we were only applying the QAP standards to newly published content.  We are gradually working our way through older Hubs.
      
      This means that Hubs that were not evaluated for featured status are now being checked.
      
      So you may see Hub that were not featured before, showing as such now.
      
      The bigger issue would be a Hub that is featured somehow no longer showing as such with no changes to the Hub content.

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         wildernessposted 10 years agoin reply to this

         Wondered if that was what you were aiming at - old hubs now going through the QAP and getting a high enough score to become featured.  The next question, I guess, is if I can expect it to go idle again in six months when the traffic remains low.  I would think so, but if you get back this way you might verify that...
         
         Sure wish I could remember which hub it was and you could verify that that's what happened.

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            Matthew Meyerposted 10 years agoin reply to this

            Yes, there is a portion of the QAP that is based on traffic.

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               wildernessposted 10 years agoin reply to this

               Not really what I was asking.  Given a good score, can very poor traffic still cause a hub to go idle?  If so, my hub will probably do so again, but if not it will sit there featured forever once it's passed the QAP.

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                  Matthew Meyerposted 10 years agoin reply to this

                  Yes, the QAP program is based both on quality assessment reviews of Hub content and engagement.
                  As with any featured Hub, if the Hub does not meet the requirement for engagement in the time period allowed, then the Hub could be removed from featured status.
                  
                  http://hubpages.com/faq/#search-traffic-to-be-featured

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                     wildernessposted 10 years agoin reply to this

                     Thanks, Matthew.  Just trying to get an understanding of what we have to work with in the future.  I had seen that, of course, but there are just too many changes too fast for my feeble brain to keep up!

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                     janderson99posted 10 years agoin reply to this

                     Nah! I think I read somewhere that changes to the Grace period may enliven Zapped hubs.

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         agilitymachposted 10 years agoin reply to this

         That's what I thought to begin with, so I'm glad to hear it.  Hubpages and feature my idle hubs away.

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      lovebuglenaposted 10 years agoin reply to this

      I just submitted a question to the forums about this.... a lot of my hubs that weren't featured are now featured and I didn't even edit them. Maybe just a few...

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   lovebuglenaposted 10 years ago

   Probably a glitch but if a hub that was idled is no longer idle w/o you doing anything to it I'd think that's a good thing...no?

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      LuisEGonzalezposted 10 years agoin reply to this

      Actually I found out that it has nothing to do with HP.......
      
                                           
      
      

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         wildernessposted 10 years agoin reply to this

         No!  Didn't you see above?  Grace is going to take care of me from now on.

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   Jenn-Anneposted 10 years ago

   If older hubs are being put through the QAP then perhaps that explains why I'm seeing views here and there on hubs that were idled quite some time ago. These hubs should have been de-indexed by now so I was surprised to see traffic. Most of my idled hubs deserved it - I'm almost embarrassed that they're being looked at. There are a couple, however, that I think are worthy of being re-published, although I was leaning towards moving them elsewhere...

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   Randy Godwinposted 10 years ago

   ARRRRRRRG!  It's alive! 

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   summerberrieposted 10 years ago

   Ouch!

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