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New Month, Same Scraper

  1. Judi Bee profile image88
    Judi Beeposted 4 years ago

    It's already been reported that some of last month's scraper sites are up with new hosts http://hubpages.com/forum/topic/111525 .  Just letting everyone know that at least one more site has reappeared today (travelingandplaces) and that more hubs are being added to all the sites today. 

    I know its disheartening to have to start filing DMCAs all over again, particularly when traffic has taken a hit from Google this week, but it needs to be done.  Our scraper is clearly persistent - we need to show him that we are too.

    If you aren't sure how to find the host site, use this link: 
    http://www.whoishostingthis.com/

    Thanks everyone!

    1. Simone Smith profile image88
      Simone Smithposted 4 years agoin reply to this

      Thank you for the heads up, Judi Bee!

    2. molometer profile image85
      molometerposted 4 years agoin reply to this

      I have checked just one single hub and found it on another 9 crappy chinese hosted websites. They are plastered with advertising from Cartier amongst other top brands?

      What a complete waste of time and effort.

    3. kittythedreamer profile image95
      kittythedreamerposted 4 years agoin reply to this

      Yep, found one of mine just by putting my name into the search bar, as JudiBee suggested. Bleh.

      1. quotations profile image91
        quotationsposted 4 years agoin reply to this

        I'm curious - if you go to your account Hubpages will sometimes display whether one of your hubs has possibly been copied by showing a symbol next to your hub. Was that showing up in your case or did you find copied hubs even though Hubpages wasn't picking up on them?

        1. Judi Bee profile image88
          Judi Beeposted 4 years agoin reply to this

          Despite over half my hubs being copied both this month and last by this particular scraper, and several having been copied in the past, I've never had the symbol show up.  I believe that it's too expensive for HP to run the software to detect copies for everyone, so don't rely on it - check your own hubs and check the forums for news.

    4. rebthomas profile image87
      rebthomasposted 3 years agoin reply to this

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    5. innerspin profile image86
      innerspinposted 4 years ago

      Poop. Just did a random check on a couple of hubs after reading this - thanks Judi Bee - and found one apparently stolen by everythingathomes.com  Haven't located my work yet but saw moonlake there, along with other articles that are obviously hubs, they have links to " read other hubs." Lots of amazon ads but I'm not sure if they are copies of the hubs or the thief's ads. Google tells me my hub is on there but there are lots of pages and articles. Anyone with hubs on home furnishing please be aware.

      1. Judi Bee profile image88
        Judi Beeposted 4 years agoin reply to this

        Try putting your name into the site search bar - it should come up with some, if not all, of your hubs.

      2. moonlake profile image91
        moonlakeposted 4 years agoin reply to this

        Thanks innerspin I see he has a few of my hubs on there.

    6. innerspin profile image86
      innerspinposted 4 years ago

      Thanks, Judi Bee, I did find it and have filed a complaint. The email associated with the site shows 641 other domains......

    7. Judi Bee profile image88
      Judi Beeposted 4 years ago

      I see that celebrationforholidays is back with us again too. 

      Just to reiterate, these sites are exactly the same as last month - if your work was there last month, it is probably going to be there again this month.  All that's changed is the host.  So far we have:

      pets-and-animal
      celebrationforholidays
      entertainmentwithmedia
      travelingandplaces
      familywithparenting
      gendersrelationships
      financeforpeoples
      educationforscience
      everythingathomes
      foodforcooking
      games-toys-hobbies
      business-employment

      I expect the other domains will be back up soon too.

      1. sholland10 profile image92
        sholland10posted 4 years agoin reply to this

        Thanks, Judi Bee!  I appreciate the info.  Here we go again...

        1. Judi Bee profile image88
          Judi Beeposted 4 years agoin reply to this

          Sorry to be the bearer of bad news.

          1. sholland10 profile image92
            sholland10posted 4 years agoin reply to this

            Better to know than not... Thank you! smile

    8. innerspin profile image86
      innerspinposted 4 years ago

      Add in healthforpeoples.com, he's a busy guy. Filed a complaint there as well. Oh dear. Some copies direct from blogger.com, he's quite bold.

      1. quotations profile image91
        quotationsposted 4 years agoin reply to this

        If it's any consolation, I went to the site and it is junk. It looks absolutely horrible, with lousy layout and many of the images are broken. I cannot imagine that Google will rank them well at all.

        1. innerspin profile image86
          innerspinposted 4 years agoin reply to this

          It does look poor, that isn't really any consolation though, as the fact is he has stolen material. I know what you mean but it's not nice to see your own work badly presented, minus photos and videos. As you say, Google probably won't think much of them.

      2. sholland10 profile image92
        sholland10posted 4 years agoin reply to this

        When I look at the healthforpeoples.com site, it is all the same hubs they scraped before with the same January 25, 2013 date.  I received e-mails from Google stating the sites had been taken down.  Does this mean they weren't since it is the same date?

        1. Marisa Wright profile image94
          Marisa Wrightposted 4 years agoin reply to this

          No, it just means he kept a backup of his original site and is using that to recreate it on his new site.

          File your DMCA with the host company and list ALL your Hubs on the same website on one DMCA - you dont need to write one DMCA for each Hub. 

          As Wilderness says, keep a copy of your DMCA so you can use it again if he does it again.

          1. Judi Bee profile image88
            Judi Beeposted 4 years agoin reply to this

            Host isn't responding (to me at least).

        2. moonlake profile image91
          moonlakeposted 4 years agoin reply to this

          I don't know what is going on with Google I had also recieved emails telling me my photos had been taken down on a site and when I looked they were down. Last night I checked and they are back on that site.

    9. Marcy Goodfleisch profile image93
      Marcy Goodfleischposted 4 years ago

      Somebody send a link to this thread as well as other threads about this scraper to the host company.  That might help get quick action. 

      Unfortunately, the person (persons) must have unlimited time and money to get these things going. And there are a ton of host companies out there.  This could take a long while to shut down completely.

      The FTC went after the companies that were scamming people on the phone (claiming to be from Microsoft).  Maybe there's a federal agency that can help shut down scrapers.  The scam (people fraudulently claiming to be from Microsoft) was mostly people in India, so the international logistics didn't prevent action.

      1. wilderness profile image93
        wildernessposted 4 years agoin reply to this

        My limited experience is if that we hubbers hit him hard and early they will give up after 3 or 4 times of being immediately shut back down.

        Save your DMCA claims; you can file them again with a different host by merely changing the address and host name.  I did take the time to verify that every hub I filed on before was on the new sites (they were) just to maintain a good impression with the host.  Claim on a hub that isn't copied and it won't improve your chances of action.

        I don't know about anyone else, but I'm filing multiple hubs on each site and, given it is all one owner and one host, multiple sites all on one DMCA.  Seems to me that it will make more of an impression on the host that way.

        1. sholland10 profile image92
          sholland10posted 4 years agoin reply to this

          Hi Wilderness, where do you look for the saved DMCA claims?  Thanks! :-)

          1. wilderness profile image93
            wildernessposted 4 years agoin reply to this

            I save my sent (email) DMCA claims.  That way I can basically copy/paste them. 

            If that doesn't work, I have a word document that is the basic form - my name, contact, wording, etc. are all there and it just needs hub links and a host address to complete.

            1. sholland10 profile image92
              sholland10posted 4 years agoin reply to this

              Thanks!  I still have all my e-mails from Google stating they received my requests and the ones stating the sites had been taken down.  I am still stumped by seeing that January 25, 2013 date today.  Makes me wonder if they were ever taken down.

    10. theraggededge profile image96
      theraggededgeposted 4 years ago

      There are two more, can't think of the names now... artswithcrafts? and a spiritual one. I'll go dig them up.

      Don't think I can keep doing this, it took hours last time sad

      Edit: It's artswithdesign

    11. Judi Bee profile image88
      Judi Beeposted 4 years ago

      Those two weren't up earlier today, but I'm sure they will be soon.

      1. theraggededge profile image96
        theraggededgeposted 4 years agoin reply to this

        Artswithdesign is up, can't find the other one yet.

        I lied, that's the original site - I saw the results come up in Google and thought it was a new one.

        1. Judi Bee profile image88
          Judi Beeposted 4 years agoin reply to this

          It was religion-philosophy.  He's putting them up fast - travelingandplaces wasn't around yesterday, but it is today.

    12. Jenn-Anne profile image92
      Jenn-Anneposted 4 years ago

      Will put this on my list of things to do this week. I agree that we must stick together and keep after this guy. Hopefully eventually he'll decide it isn't worth the effort to keep targeting hubpages. And for anyone who is new to this situation, if you have hubs published on hubpages, likely this guy has stolen them. Last time around his sites were nothing but stolen hubs - scraped as fast as they were published.

      1. wilderness profile image93
        wildernessposted 4 years agoin reply to this

        That's what it will take, alright.

        And for sure he'll take anything and everything.  Last time I had over 100 hubs stolen by this slimeball.

    13. Judi Bee profile image88
      Judi Beeposted 4 years ago

      Just for those who've missed it over the weekend - bump!

    14. quotations profile image91
      quotationsposted 4 years ago

      I will do that. I may be joining you all in making DMCA requests

    15. TheKatsMeow profile image86
      TheKatsMeowposted 4 years ago

      This should be on page 1, so I am giving it a bump smile

    16. Marcy Goodfleisch profile image93
      Marcy Goodfleischposted 4 years ago

      Bump

    17. TheKatsMeow profile image86
      TheKatsMeowposted 4 years ago

      Anyone have any good news on this?

      It looks like artswithdesign has been suspended, I am off to check out the other ones.

      edit: it appears the other ones are still up and running, how disappointing sad

    18. Bedbugabscond profile image91
      Bedbugabscondposted 4 years ago

      I reported him/her/they yesterday. I don't know how they cat get away with this over and over again.

    19. Judi Bee profile image88
      Judi Beeposted 4 years ago

      Just bumping this up - sites still up and content still being added each day.

    20. Writer Fox profile image78
      Writer Foxposted 4 years ago

      When your content is removed from the sites, file a request with Google to have the cache removed and be sure to include "repeat offender" when you notify Google:

      http://support.google.com/webmasters/bi … er=1663691

    21. Writer Fox profile image78
      Writer Foxposted 4 years ago

      The Host generally gives the accused 48-hours to respond to the Host's email.  Anyone can file a counter-claim to a DMCA request so time is allotted for someone to exercise his rights. A spammer, of course, won't counter-claim and will forfeit and move on.

      NOTE: When you file to have Google remove the cache, you must file a separate request for each URL.

      1. Judi Bee profile image88
        Judi Beeposted 4 years agoin reply to this

        It's been over two weeks.  A quick search of the host company's name doesn't inspire confidence that any action will be taken by them.

    22. shielamaeparreno profile image78
      shielamaeparrenoposted 4 years ago

      Hi Judibee, I've been trying to check on my hubs for an hour now but only my account with Hubpage appears as exact copy on the search list. My chances on hubs getting copied might be slim but it's worth the try knowing anyway.
      I'm not sure if I'm doing it right. I just copy the title of my hub and paste it on the search bar on google.. smile  How do I check them?

      1. Judi Bee profile image88
        Judi Beeposted 4 years agoin reply to this

        Take a sentence from your hub and put it inside quote marks - any copies will show up.  If the search returns only your hub, you're OK.

    23. duffsmom profile image60
      duffsmomposted 4 years ago

      Add www.only4realmen.com to the list.  They have copied one of my hubs but are not responding to emails etc. Will have to go to their host GODADDY to get anything done I suppose.

      1. quotations profile image91
        quotationsposted 4 years agoin reply to this

        Also report them to Adsense. If they can't monetize their site it won't pay for them to keep the content up.

      2. Judi Bee profile image88
        Judi Beeposted 4 years agoin reply to this

        This guy's host is WestHost - they have a DMCA procedure listed on their site.  You could approach him first though and ask him to take it off.  It's not the Chinese scraper, it's a guy in Atlanta.  If he doesn't respond, then contact the host.

    24. Millionaire Tips profile image88
      Millionaire Tipsposted 4 years ago

      I filed a DMCA, but when I look at the list of my history, it says that the DMCA was rejected. 

      I think this means that the site was taken down before they were able to look for my links, since I received emails saying that they couldn't find it.

      Do you think I may be doing something else wrong when filling out the request?

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