That's MRS. Buttercup to you!
All Powerful Buttercup
Holle Buttercup, Celtic Warrior Princess
Could be differentiated with "The Way It Used to Be". "Buttercup, why do you build me up, don't break my heart".
I decided I have been bitching and moaning about my traffic long enough. This is my demarcation point.
I love it, and I hate my loss of traffic. When I see HP is up at Quantcast. I think "Why can't it be all the hubbers.? However, I will no longer let it create "Big Stress". I will think of Buttercup, the cutie.
Wow. Just for the record my traffic flucuates quite erraticlly
I no longer stress about Google traffic so much. Pinterest usually fills in the traffic dips - some things get viral bursts of pins then stop for a month.
I haven't really mastered the whole pinterest thing yet. Meaning I don't get it.
I should say yes, cause it seems impolite to say that I haven't, but I haven't.
Well my technique is extremely simple and my top two hubs using my method have 60,000 and 40,000 pins respectively. If you're after more traffic... May be worth a look.
Pinterest is basically a photo site. When, say a person is doing a school project and they Google the photo they need it might take them to your photo in Pinterest. They click on the photo and it takes them to the hubpage where it came from.
I wrote a hub on getting banned from Pinterest.
To be honest I couldn't get on with them. Pics of flowers and babies are great.
Asses - less so.
Haha, I don't have a pinterest account (I do but never use it). It's traffic from google that does the pinning and the pins get re-pinned etc.
My Pinterest source is less than 0.3% of total traffic - of which I have probably pinned the most, before I got banned.
I have taken note of Wry's suggestions and tried to make my images more Pinnable but I suspect subject matter and audience comes into it. I don't write about the major Pinterest interests or have visitors who want to Pin me.
I just checked my search traffic compared to last year. After a year of improvements - my own and HP - it is down about 30%.
Direct traffic has improved and means my overall level is similar to where it was back then. I am not entirely without hope.
Oh! good pictures don't usually get pinned from what I noticed hubs with simple pics are the ones that get pinned. At times I wonder who those people are who pin them. Probably subject matter then they could use other networks FB for instance My traffic has definitely gone up as my hubs a year ago were relatively new
Oh...Mark......Who needs "traffic," when we've got YOU, to brighten our spirits??
I actually have an account. I just don't get it. It's just pictures. I feel like I waste enough time on the internet, I can't imagine sitting around messing with pics all day. I don't think Ive gotten any hits from Pinterest at all... ever... it just seems like a huge waste of time. I think I'm definitely missing something. I probably need to read wrylit's hub... I just can't get into it.
That image is at the top right of one of my hubs. It has 40,000 pins. And only about 5 of them from my personal account.
So you're saying... it's a pic on one of your hubs and ppl from Pinterest have repinned it 40,000 times which brings more traffic to your hubs? Cause once it's repinned, it's still tied to your hub for anyone who clicks on it in the future? I have a pic of Adam Levine on my pinterest that should be very popular, but it's not connected to my hubs... I just like to look at it. lol
I don't know... Ill try it again maybe, I just didn't have much luck with it.
Beth, yep - you have to edit the pic so it links to your site! But then you must mix and match with other peoples pics so you don't look like a spammer - that's how I got banned. ALL my pics were my own.
Wry has the perfect picture there for Pinterest. Simple message that leads them into a possibility of useful information for the mass audience.
Me. I have stickmen, occasionally obscene. My audience does not exist within the Pinterest site. It is more Reddit - in my opinion, although not theirs because they banned me as well.
We should combine forces. If you could make a stickman of my Adam Levine pic. I think ppl would really enjoy that.
Adam Levine? Google. Good heavens - he's rather hunky. There might be some mileage in that pic with a ladies hand. I am busy at the mo' though.
Do stick figures have hands? Would she need them in this case... all things being a bit... linear and all? Yes, quite a bit of mileage I imagine.
I did have some near the knuckle pics at one point but HP said they were "crude and inappropriate for a family site".
Both of the people in WryLit's pic appear to be pregnant which should have rung some knuckle bells.
rung knuckle bells....hahaha
Wait a minute... I googled this and apparently you made it up... like most British sayings.
I'm sure I could say something funny to that Will, but it's past midnight. Remind me in the morning!
Writing for bridezillas and people up the duff and people with kids.... seems to get popularity on Pinterest.
Unfortunately .... I know nothing of their lifestyle so couldn't get motivated to write for them.
Precisely Beth. Adding the title of the hub (or a teaser) means people who want to bookmark it, do so by using my image Pinterest is really just one gigantic image bookmarking site.
If it was a pretty picture, it wouldn't be as memorable or interesting. And no one would want to click it to get more information
So far the only pic that has really captured my imagination was that one of Adam Levine.
I'm not getting the traffic from Pinterest that Wrylit is. I am at around 50-60 visits a day though. The traffic is growing too, so it is well worth it. I'm interested in seeing where it eventually goes.
What ever happened to 'write something original and people will find it'? Driving traffic and SEO and all those other tech things have beaten quality writing [not that I do] to a pulp. I've checked out hubbers who get huge traffic with crap hubs only because they know the tricks to lure readers to their page. I've also read hubs by low ranking low view hubbers that were great but then, all they did was write great hubs. I believe getting views has taken priority over good writing....a sad day indeed...
One of my hubs actually got a pinterest spike yesterday. Bless some fuzzy, little pinner's heart...
I just read this whole thread and reflected on whether I want to get into Pinterest, and why I haven't.
Putting it all together, here's what I see. Ginny Lee's hub on Pinterest has this caption: The Best Pinterest Tips and Tricks - Fabulous Secrets for using this addicting website!
Let's say it's true: Pinterest is both graphical and addictive.
My HubPages articles are for people who read and think. Addicts don't think a lot. Addicts want to be amused by words, images, stories, and avoid their own pain. That's why we do addictive things.
This answers the question from CheapTrick: "What ever happened to 'write something original and people will find it'? " When people read and wanted interesting things, that worked. Now people gaze with eyes glazed, and want distractions. It's hard to write for a world where nobody reads.
It also explains my own avoidance of pinterest. I'm a reader and experiencer. Still images don't work for me. That I knew. But, even more so, I don't hang out in bars. I'm not into addiction. (I'm not saying I don't struggle with addiction - sometimes I waste way too much time watching Netflix. But that's the point. I want to move away from addiction, and social networks (Facebook, Twitter, and Pinterest) thrive on the addictive minds of their users.
At the same time, I think I must dive in.
Among all those pinners and tweeters and posters, there must be a few intelligent people looking for something interesting, uplifting, useful, and empowering to read.
And I need to find them.
Oooh, I like your spin on it better than mine.
Pinners are unintelligent addicts and that's why they aren't really interested in my high brow musings. Im going with that.
There are idiots everywhere. And smart people everywhere. Hell, I'm on Pinterest, aren't I?
Well, that's a recipe for instant disaster
I appear to be drawing young men who are busy with their hands. Luckily R Creighton pointed that out to me when I didn't understand one of the comments one of the young men left for me. Im pretty sure if I want to draw a thinker, I'm going to have to plagiarize someone elses work.
Yes. But in marketing, we are not seeking to create images and messages that capture ourselves. We want to capture our target market, our audience. On HubPages, that means readers, not writers, and they have different interests than we do. Movie-makers (Directors, scriptwriters, producers) make movies for movie-goers, not for other movie-makers. Car dealerships design ads for people who might want to buy a car, not for auto salesmen.
One of the big problems with marketing is that we must use our creative talent not to please ourselves, but to attract others who are different than we are. This raises both emotional and mental challenges. Perhaps, also, it can be a path of growth.
You gotta eat.
Give them what they want. Take the money.
So true. Those that understand their audience and write for them will usually be the most successful.
I remember in Stephen King's book On Writing, he talks about his "dear reader" and how he always keeps his reader in mind when writing.
It's a good lesson to learn.
That makes him seem way more spooky. Id rather think he was just focusing on the demons as he wrote. lol
Trouble is I don't really like my readers. Most of the time they barge in, have a quick look and disappear. I tried typing "LOOK HERE YOU MORON >>>>>" at an advert but they don't take any notice.
Now I'm just rude from the get-go. No time wasted you see, on pointless niceties.
You don't have to like them Mark!
In fact there's probably a big market for abusive content lol
Each hubber ponders and waits... Will this Monday's traffic beat last Monday's traffic? Three hours to go on Analytics stats. Tensions mount...
HubPages this Monday's traffic beat last Monday's traffic. All is well in internet land...
Well, I'm having a grim start to the week with a 2.3 per cent downfrown.
It is if you don't check back a few months.
I was talking about HP's traffic, not my traffic.
As to my traffic, I went and re-read the message to myself in the op and decided to take a nap.
I'm sorry to hear others are in the same sinking boat with me. Hope y'all start doing better.
Hot damn! Traffic above a certain, beloved round number!
This is my organic search traffic since May 2012. In that time I have published and deleted many pages, I have tweaked and improved where I can, I have tried to offer my visitors something to delight and engage them. I do not spam or cheat in any way - my content is original and unspun.
That is essentially a years worth of work in my free time and my result is a worse position than a year ago. I don't blame anyone for this, I am not moaning at HP or even Google, it is what it is.
I would be fed up with my traffic if I had done a lot of work here over the last 12 months, but really I have only done maintenance, so a steady state is OK.
The little upblips make it all worthwhile.
On the other hand - if I look at my site traffic where I have made limited effort and my content is frankly not as good as HP...
You'll note the big blip in December 2012. I had a topical hub get 'hidden' by Google in early December - they decided to unhide it on December 20! Imagine what the graph would have looked like if they didn't hide it!!!
These posts caused me to look at my own ytd. Amazingly, my current traffic is higher than my February and March. But definitely lower than my April and first half of May. And I'm happy to say that my traffic is higher this year than last year.
About HP-ads, just wanted to say bless HP's fuzzy little hearts...
I'm disappointed with my daily earnings! It used to be quite good, especially last month. I don't understand what has happened.
Anyway, i will be patient and see what happens this month, it may pick up again.
You will probably see lower CPM's, affecting earnings, all summer. Limited experience says that advertisers won't pay as much in the summer. Come fall, and the Xmas season begins to show up on the radar, CPM's will probably begin to rise once more.
Plus, of course, traffic generally falls during the summer. Unless you're one of the "down unders" you're outside playing, not sitting indoors with a laptop.
UK's had its coldest spring for 50 years .... and this morning, where I live, it started with a thunderstorm and downpour from 5am. Not much playing outside for people today.
I should write a hub about folding plastic bags into rain hats
I am only getting about a dollar a month at the moment, although I do only have a limited number of hubs... I refuse to go hub crazy. I would rather do a few things very well, that lots of things badly
By the way congrats on all those views Wilderness. Way to go. Yes, I do think traffic and pay is down for summer.
Unfortunately, my traffic drop is much more than the usual summer doldrums. Whatever update Big G did around May 7 has had a very negative and so-far lasting effect.
May was a great month for me - my best ever. But June has been abysmal so far. Views are way off. I know it is normal but the ups and downs can be so frustrating.
Well, well. My traffic is better than expected for a Friday. So far, anyway..,.
Seems like the forums just keep getting less and less active... If this keeps up, I just might have to start writing hubs again to keep busy.
Until such time as I can think of something that won't just lay there for a year before getting traffic, I really see no reason to continue writing.
LOL i love the angry cat!! That's right suck it up buttercups :p!!!
My traffic and earnings dropped pretty bad yesterday. Traffic was finally starting to go up.
Here is a sad little page. Never got much traffic but it was slowly climbing until - wham.
It has gone off to see if it can do better elsewhere...
Here is a comparison of organic search to my HubPages account - this year in blue, last year in orange.
Twelve months of tweaking, same seasonal factors, all hubs pass the QAP thing. I am not moaning. This is evaluating effort put in v. results.
But you don't know how badly your traffic would have gone down if you hadn't tweaked. Perhaps it would be much lower.
Also, perhaps when the wonderful day arrives, and we are finally safe from panda your traffic will take off, and all your tweaking will have contributed to the panda immunity.
Or that day will never arrive, and we will be condemned to earning a few pennies from the traffic dregs that Google throws us. There is no way to know.
Incidentally, if you are really serious about earning and traffic, then I think your content, excellent though it is, might not work for that. When people want to be amused on the internet they head straight to youtube, reddit, or whatever purveyor of mindless amusement they favour. They don't google for it.
You would probably see more traffic with straightforward how-to or buying guides or whatever it is that people actually google for. Sad but true.
Thanks aalite. I have now given up hope that my stuff will work on here. It is a not a one-stop "here it is now buy it" offering. Neither do art or humor convert into sales or lucrative advertising.
I am now experimenting (again) with a site of my own to see what visits I can get and what I can do with them. Now I am thrilled all over again with a single visit.
Incidentally the site is NOT linked to from my profile. The aim is not to attract a few visits from Hubbers.
That a pity that it is not linked from your profile I am sure lots of people from here would follow you.
If you're having a blog sort of thing, then you need lots of followers. Because whether here, or on your own site, I don't think you will get much google traffic, if people follow you, they might get other people to follow you and it builds upl.
How are you monetizing it? I think your Zazzle store might be the best bet. Again I suspect your stuff won't convert particularly well to Adsense clicks.
Anyway I hope you reconsider telling people here about your new site
Ha well truth is it is a very incomplete offering at present. I really don't want to push it here when we are used to Stellar standards, etc.
It is not a blog, but a site. It means I can arrange my content - like a more sophisticated Groups essentially. "You like this stickman? Well here's another". That kind of thing.
I am hoping that occasional visitors will convert into multiple page views. That's the first step.
IF I get meaningful visits then I can build on that how I choose. Maybe shop links, maybe a book, maybe a plea to share it - I don't know yet. My excitement is that I get to decide how to promote and manage my content.
I did do a blog which was getting thousands of hits daily for a subject I fell on by accident. I made a few pounds. So no, I'm not interested in trying to build up a daily blog. That requires time which I don't have / want to give.
I'm still hoping to lay in a hammock one day, drawing the occasional stickman and asking my accountant how much we made yesterday.
You can write lucid prose. Why not use it to make some money? Then you will have all the time you need to write/draw a Great Opus.
I can sell you some fine keywords.
Also, all the Kingdoms you can see, you shall be king of...
Thanks Will. I do this in my spare time - it is a hobby. So I am driven by money... yes... but fun also. I need to enjoy it to do it.
That may change when I have no other income but for now I have the luxury of doing what I want. Experimenting / playing.
I promise never to even think of writing a Great Opus.
Or....I guess your fans can google you. No follow button?
Follow button? What does it mean?
edit: Oh. I see what you mean. No, it is a very cheap (free) site - limited social things. No comments, no Facebook.
I thought "Oh no, I won't be socially enabled". The thing is, my blogs are and all I get is grief in the comments with spammers posting links to their sites, or expecting me to enter a conversation about their toenails.
That's why I chose free rather than getting into the Wordpress thing. I did have a domain name a while back but I forgot to renew it and they want hundreds of dollars for it now.
I don't believe it matters much. IF the content is appreciated it will find a way out there.
Blogs have follow buttons. So when a new entry is posted your followers are emailed. Or I guess they can follow the RSS feed.
The point is that I don't think you can ever count on organic (google) traffic with your kind of stuff. What you can count on is a royal following of people who like your stuff, and will come and read it every time you post something.
Which does imply posting frequently, but not necessarily everyday. Maybe once a week, maybe even rarer. You could redo stories about what's been happening in the world with stickmen, or stories from your life or whatever.
I mean have a look at this: http://themiddlestsister.com
I reckon your stuff is better and funnier. But this blog has 10k followers.
I know we all want organic traffic on HP, but there are blogs like the above, and others more successful ones that don't get that much organic traffic. The challenge is to start getting followers that are not from HP, that you don't know.
Once you get enough followers, they will share your stuff, and you will get more traffic. These types of blogs are best monetized with a store with cards etc. Also if you are really successful, you can get advertisers to pay you for showing your stuff directly. Like theblogess.com I don't see any adsense ads on her pages.
And once you are really successful you can also do a book.
Different strategies for different types of content. The blog strategy is probably very slow to see any earnings. But, if it works, and it's not a given that it will ever work, you can make lots more money than you could waiting for organic impressions and Adsense clicks.
Another thing, I think you could be pretty successful on reddit, if you put the work in. But I wouldn't post links to your stuff on reddit. I would post just pictures, like people do memes. Comment with stickmen about something in a subreddit, just post pictures. Hell comment on other people's posts with stickmen pictures. Once you're liked there, you can submit a link to your stuff.
Lots of hard work, and no guarantee of success. In a way writing about "which Furby to get your kid for their birthday" seems easier. But there are plenty of people writing about Furbies, and your stuff is unique, so it might take off in a pretty big way. Or it might not.
Lol at middlestsisters. Great fun. aalite - I am really grateful for your input and I think you make a lot of sense.
Blog relaunched and linked to profile. I will try aalite - really I will.
Blog seen and sampled at random. I found your description of David Icke hilarious.
I did too, you put a smile on my face this morning. Might be a good place to advertise some of your Cafepress stick man products too.
Someone should say that unless a page is designed from the outset to be monetized with Amazon or Ebay links, they probably shouldn't be included at all.
Sprinkling affiliate links around how-to's or info pages will not get many sales and invites the Panda in for a snack.
Affiliate links should only go on the kinds of page that people read when they are looking to buy something. Product comparisons do best.
Agreed. I've got a couple of products I regularly sell from sprinkling both of them around how-to hubs, but the vast majority are from hubs designed to sell, not give info, and that's apparent in the title.
I don't do as well with comparisons, though, as with plain advice on what to buy to accomplish a task. And I've a few review hubs, written for sales, that do well, too. Perhaps my comparison products are too expensive; they're all in the hundreds of dollars range.
OK, Mr. Traffic. You can stop dropping now. The weekend is 75% over, and it's time for you to start rising again in acknowledgement of the new week. You hear?
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I was sorry to see that this forum thread was closed to comments by HP:http://hubpages.com/forum/topic/78912#topThere was a lot of good information going back and forth there. It may be that some snipe stuff went on between commenters, but the topic is still valid.I'd like to see it continue.
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