I love it, and I hate my loss of traffic. When I see HP is up at Quantcast. I think "Why can't it be all the hubbers.? However, I will no longer let it create "Big Stress". I will think of Buttercup, the cutie.
Hi Beth Pinterest is basically a photo site. When, say a person is doing a school project and they Google the photo they need it might take them to your photo in Pinterest. They click on the photo and it takes them to the hubpage where it came from.
My Pinterest source is less than 0.3% of total traffic - of which I have probably pinned the most, before I got banned.
I have taken note of Wry's suggestions and tried to make my images more Pinnable but I suspect subject matter and audience comes into it. I don't write about the major Pinterest interests or have visitors who want to Pin me.
I just checked my search traffic compared to last year. After a year of improvements - my own and HP - it is down about 30%.
Direct traffic has improved and means my overall level is similar to where it was back then. I am not entirely without hope.
Oh! good pictures don't usually get pinned from what I noticed hubs with simple pics are the ones that get pinned. At times I wonder who those people are who pin them. Probably subject matter then they could use other networks FB for instance My traffic has definitely gone up as my hubs a year ago were relatively new
I actually have an account. I just don't get it. It's just pictures. I feel like I waste enough time on the internet, I can't imagine sitting around messing with pics all day. I don't think Ive gotten any hits from Pinterest at all... ever... it just seems like a huge waste of time. I think I'm definitely missing something. I probably need to read wrylit's hub... I just can't get into it.
So you're saying... it's a pic on one of your hubs and ppl from Pinterest have repinned it 40,000 times which brings more traffic to your hubs? Cause once it's repinned, it's still tied to your hub for anyone who clicks on it in the future? I have a pic of Adam Levine on my pinterest that should be very popular, but it's not connected to my hubs... I just like to look at it. lol I don't know... Ill try it again maybe, I just didn't have much luck with it.
Beth, yep - you have to edit the pic so it links to your site! But then you must mix and match with other peoples pics so you don't look like a spammer - that's how I got banned. ALL my pics were my own.
Wry has the perfect picture there for Pinterest. Simple message that leads them into a possibility of useful information for the mass audience.
Me. I have stickmen, occasionally obscene. My audience does not exist within the Pinterest site. It is more Reddit - in my opinion, although not theirs because they banned me as well.
I'm not getting the traffic from Pinterest that Wrylit is. I am at around 50-60 visits a day though. The traffic is growing too, so it is well worth it. I'm interested in seeing where it eventually goes.
What ever happened to 'write something original and people will find it'? Driving traffic and SEO and all those other tech things have beaten quality writing [not that I do] to a pulp. I've checked out hubbers who get huge traffic with crap hubs only because they know the tricks to lure readers to their page. I've also read hubs by low ranking low view hubbers that were great but then, all they did was write great hubs. I believe getting views has taken priority over good writing....a sad day indeed...
I just read this whole thread and reflected on whether I want to get into Pinterest, and why I haven't.
Putting it all together, here's what I see. Ginny Lee's hub on Pinterest has this caption: The Best Pinterest Tips and Tricks - Fabulous Secrets for using this addicting website!
Let's say it's true: Pinterest is both graphical and addictive.
My HubPages articles are for people who read and think. Addicts don't think a lot. Addicts want to be amused by words, images, stories, and avoid their own pain. That's why we do addictive things.
This answers the question from CheapTrick: "What ever happened to 'write something original and people will find it'? " When people read and wanted interesting things, that worked. Now people gaze with eyes glazed, and want distractions. It's hard to write for a world where nobody reads.
It also explains my own avoidance of pinterest. I'm a reader and experiencer. Still images don't work for me. That I knew. But, even more so, I don't hang out in bars. I'm not into addiction. (I'm not saying I don't struggle with addiction - sometimes I waste way too much time watching Netflix. But that's the point. I want to move away from addiction, and social networks (Facebook, Twitter, and Pinterest) thrive on the addictive minds of their users.
At the same time, I think I must dive in.
Among all those pinners and tweeters and posters, there must be a few intelligent people looking for something interesting, uplifting, useful, and empowering to read.
I appear to be drawing young men who are busy with their hands. Luckily R Creighton pointed that out to me when I didn't understand one of the comments one of the young men left for me. Im pretty sure if I want to draw a thinker, I'm going to have to plagiarize someone elses work.
Yes. But in marketing, we are not seeking to create images and messages that capture ourselves. We want to capture our target market, our audience. On HubPages, that means readers, not writers, and they have different interests than we do. Movie-makers (Directors, scriptwriters, producers) make movies for movie-goers, not for other movie-makers. Car dealerships design ads for people who might want to buy a car, not for auto salesmen.
One of the big problems with marketing is that we must use our creative talent not to please ourselves, but to attract others who are different than we are. This raises both emotional and mental challenges. Perhaps, also, it can be a path of growth.
If only I had gotten those 3 views you would have seen an improvement on the HP traffic. Darn it! I should have tried social sharing for once, would surely have gotten those 3 desperately needed views.
This is my organic search traffic since May 2012. In that time I have published and deleted many pages, I have tweaked and improved where I can, I have tried to offer my visitors something to delight and engage them. I do not spam or cheat in any way - my content is original and unspun.
That is essentially a years worth of work in my free time and my result is a worse position than a year ago. I don't blame anyone for this, I am not moaning at HP or even Google, it is what it is.
You'll note the big blip in December 2012. I had a topical hub get 'hidden' by Google in early December - they decided to unhide it on December 20! Imagine what the graph would have looked like if they didn't hide it!!!
These posts caused me to look at my own ytd. Amazingly, my current traffic is higher than my February and March. But definitely lower than my April and first half of May. And I'm happy to say that my traffic is higher this year than last year.
You will probably see lower CPM's, affecting earnings, all summer. Limited experience says that advertisers won't pay as much in the summer. Come fall, and the Xmas season begins to show up on the radar, CPM's will probably begin to rise once more.
Plus, of course, traffic generally falls during the summer. Unless you're one of the "down unders" you're outside playing, not sitting indoors with a laptop.
I am only getting about a dollar a month at the moment, although I do only have a limited number of hubs... I refuse to go hub crazy. I would rather do a few things very well, that lots of things badly
But you don't know how badly your traffic would have gone down if you hadn't tweaked. Perhaps it would be much lower.
Also, perhaps when the wonderful day arrives, and we are finally safe from panda your traffic will take off, and all your tweaking will have contributed to the panda immunity.
Or that day will never arrive, and we will be condemned to earning a few pennies from the traffic dregs that Google throws us. There is no way to know.
Incidentally, if you are really serious about earning and traffic, then I think your content, excellent though it is, might not work for that. When people want to be amused on the internet they head straight to youtube, reddit, or whatever purveyor of mindless amusement they favour. They don't google for it.
You would probably see more traffic with straightforward how-to or buying guides or whatever it is that people actually google for. Sad but true.
That a pity that it is not linked from your profile I am sure lots of people from here would follow you.
If you're having a blog sort of thing, then you need lots of followers. Because whether here, or on your own site, I don't think you will get much google traffic, if people follow you, they might get other people to follow you and it builds upl.
How are you monetizing it? I think your Zazzle store might be the best bet. Again I suspect your stuff won't convert particularly well to Adsense clicks.
Anyway I hope you reconsider telling people here about your new site
Ha well truth is it is a very incomplete offering at present. I really don't want to push it here when we are used to Stellar standards, etc.
It is not a blog, but a site. It means I can arrange my content - like a more sophisticated Groups essentially. "You like this stickman? Well here's another". That kind of thing.
I am hoping that occasional visitors will convert into multiple page views. That's the first step.
IF I get meaningful visits then I can build on that how I choose. Maybe shop links, maybe a book, maybe a plea to share it - I don't know yet. My excitement is that I get to decide how to promote and manage my content.
I did do a blog which was getting thousands of hits daily for a subject I fell on by accident. I made a few pounds. So no, I'm not interested in trying to build up a daily blog. That requires time which I don't have / want to give.
I'm still hoping to lay in a hammock one day, drawing the occasional stickman and asking my accountant how much we made yesterday.
edit: Oh. I see what you mean. No, it is a very cheap (free) site - limited social things. No comments, no Facebook.
I thought "Oh no, I won't be socially enabled". The thing is, my blogs are and all I get is grief in the comments with spammers posting links to their sites, or expecting me to enter a conversation about their toenails.
That's why I chose free rather than getting into the Wordpress thing. I did have a domain name a while back but I forgot to renew it and they want hundreds of dollars for it now.
I don't believe it matters much. IF the content is appreciated it will find a way out there.
Blogs have follow buttons. So when a new entry is posted your followers are emailed. Or I guess they can follow the RSS feed.
The point is that I don't think you can ever count on organic (google) traffic with your kind of stuff. What you can count on is a royal following of people who like your stuff, and will come and read it every time you post something.
Which does imply posting frequently, but not necessarily everyday. Maybe once a week, maybe even rarer. You could redo stories about what's been happening in the world with stickmen, or stories from your life or whatever.
I reckon your stuff is better and funnier. But this blog has 10k followers.
I know we all want organic traffic on HP, but there are blogs like the above, and others more successful ones that don't get that much organic traffic. The challenge is to start getting followers that are not from HP, that you don't know.
Once you get enough followers, they will share your stuff, and you will get more traffic. These types of blogs are best monetized with a store with cards etc. Also if you are really successful, you can get advertisers to pay you for showing your stuff directly. Like theblogess.com I don't see any adsense ads on her pages.
And once you are really successful you can also do a book.
Different strategies for different types of content. The blog strategy is probably very slow to see any earnings. But, if it works, and it's not a given that it will ever work, you can make lots more money than you could waiting for organic impressions and Adsense clicks.
Another thing, I think you could be pretty successful on reddit, if you put the work in. But I wouldn't post links to your stuff on reddit. I would post just pictures, like people do memes. Comment with stickmen about something in a subreddit, just post pictures. Hell comment on other people's posts with stickmen pictures. Once you're liked there, you can submit a link to your stuff.
Lots of hard work, and no guarantee of success. In a way writing about "which Furby to get your kid for their birthday" seems easier. But there are plenty of people writing about Furbies, and your stuff is unique, so it might take off in a pretty big way. Or it might not.
Agreed. I've got a couple of products I regularly sell from sprinkling both of them around how-to hubs, but the vast majority are from hubs designed to sell, not give info, and that's apparent in the title.
I don't do as well with comparisons, though, as with plain advice on what to buy to accomplish a task. And I've a few review hubs, written for sales, that do well, too. Perhaps my comparison products are too expensive; they're all in the hundreds of dollars range.
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