Stolen Copies Now Outranking Original Hubs

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  1. Judi Bee profile image90
    Judi Beeposted 11 years ago

    Paradigmsearch reported on the scraper site Cararticle.net some weeks ago.  Up until this week, they hadn't got any of my content, but I found several of my hubs there yesterday - DMCA filed, same old, same old  However, what's really ticking me off is that the copies are already outranking my originals in a search.

    I started a thread a week or so ago about healthylivingbox.net, who are also scraping the site wholesale and outranking some hubs.

    Susana S shared an article yesterday in which it was suggested that Google is pushing "freshness" heavily at the moment - apparently even freshly stolen content  >sad

    So - can people please check the sites, file the DMCAs and get these people shut down.  Google transparency report shows that only a few hubbers have filed with Google - hundreds must be affected.

    1. Solaras profile image84
      Solarasposted 11 years agoin reply to this

      I am seeing that with another site - all-topics dot com. Some of my articles there are out ranking mine. filed reports on them and rank08 yesterday.  I'll go check out the car site.

      1. andromida profile image56
        andromidaposted 11 years agoin reply to this

        Google algorithm simply fails to differentiate between original and copied contents.

      2. Susana S profile image94
        Susana Sposted 11 years agoin reply to this

        Rank08 has been completely dropped from google search.

      3. Muttface profile image80
        Muttfaceposted 11 years agoin reply to this

        Just filed some DMCAs about this site.

        1. Muttface profile image80
          Muttfaceposted 11 years agoin reply to this

          alltopics. net

      4. Susana S profile image94
        Susana Sposted 11 years agoin reply to this

        Can we get the url right?

        I'm assuming it's...

        all-topic[dot]com

        ...without the S and WITH a hyphen?

        1. Solaras profile image84
          Solarasposted 11 years agoin reply to this

          with hyphen and no s - in fact they don't use plurals on their site at all. I think that means it is Asian in origin lol.

  2. EricDockett profile image92
    EricDockettposted 11 years ago

    I'm seeing that too, and not only with that cararticle site.  I never worried so much when Hubs got copied because my originals always crushed them in the SERPs.  Now it seems like something has changed.

    1. Susana S profile image94
      Susana Sposted 11 years agoin reply to this

      Yeah it's not normally a problem, but I think the recent re-indexing issues may have confused Google as to which is the original.

    2. path-finder profile image59
      path-finderposted 11 years agoin reply to this

      So much for Google valuing original content

  3. Judi Bee profile image90
    Judi Beeposted 11 years ago

    I see Paul E is having the same problem.
    http://pauledmondson.hubpages.com/hub/T … ng-Scraped

  4. Gail Meyers profile image65
    Gail Meyersposted 11 years ago

    Healthylivingbox.net has also scrape some of my hubs - copyright and all.  I'm not sure how anyone could say this is not usually a problem.  It has been a consistent problem as far as I know.  This is one of the reasons I started including my copyrights at the top of my hubs.  Scrapers copy the whole thing and Google can clearly see my copyright on my hub copied to their site.  It is a never ending battle.  Google now also has a page to report scrapers.

    1. Susana S profile image94
      Susana Sposted 11 years agoin reply to this

      It's not usually a problem in the sense that scrapers don't normally outrank originals in the search results.

      1. sabrebIade profile image79
        sabrebIadeposted 11 years agoin reply to this

        Yeah they do.
        I have seen it lots of times despite what Google says.

        1. Susana S profile image94
          Susana Sposted 11 years agoin reply to this

          Oh they can in certain circumstances - like if your pages have been downgraded or penalised by a Google algorithm. But as far as anything I've ever published online - I've never had a copy outrank me for my title or main keyword phrases. Therefore, they've never really "hurt", just been an annoyance to get rid of.

          1. sabrebIade profile image79
            sabrebIadeposted 11 years agoin reply to this

            I've had stolen Blog entries outrank the originals.
            I've seen copied news items out rank the NY Times and Washington Post originals.
            I've seen Wikipedia articles copied word for word outrank the original Wikipedia articles. 
            It happens all the time.

  5. path-finder profile image59
    path-finderposted 11 years ago

    This happened to one of my hubs; the copied one outranked the original one. That was before I filed DMCA and took it down.

    This is sad because most of the due traffic to our hubs will pass on to the copying site. Bad for Hubbers and Hubpages.

  6. alexadry profile image97
    alexadryposted 11 years ago

    Just reported Healthy living box which has stolen 2 of my articles. I reported to the hosting company as sometimes they take things down more quickly than Google.  I wanted to report with Wordpress, but Wordpress has this claim "Verify that the blog in question is hosted by Automattic. We have no control over blogs that say “Powered by WordPress.org.” Those blogs use the open source WordPress software and are not hosted by us. Please contact the appropriate web host with complaints. We only host blogs that have “wordpress.com” in their URL or that say “powered by WordPress.com” on the site." It's frustrating that we have to go through this whole hassle to report every time. I wished hubpages could one day disable the ability to copy text and add a warning when anybody tries to do so. I think this would discourage a lot of plagiarizers.

  7. Jenn-Anne profile image73
    Jenn-Anneposted 11 years ago

    It is outrageous that scrapers who steal our stuff then get to outrank us in search. And I don't even like to think about how this is impacting our hubs getting unfeatured. I've been feeling rather discouraged about everything in general lately and had given up trying to fight back, but you make a good point that failing to file is hurting others too, not just ourselves. I will try to do some digging this weekend and file on whatever I find.

  8. earner profile image82
    earnerposted 11 years ago

    We need to be stealing our own stuff......

  9. Anamika S profile image64
    Anamika Sposted 11 years ago

    This is ridiculous! I found 50+ hubs of mine on the healthylivingbox site. Instead of working on my client project, I wasted my time searching for my hubs after I saw this post. Tomorrow I have to file DMCA for all the hubs I found. This site is full of scraped content from hubpages. So I guess the better option could be to get the hosting provider (ihs.com.tr/mainMenu.html or oxenon.com not sure) to take the site down. I am really hating this! No wonder the traffic of my best performing hubs have gone down significantly.

  10. missolive profile image61
    missoliveposted 11 years ago

    The site has scraped several of mine as well. They even took my HubPages tutorials...go figure!

  11. Writer Fox profile image44
    Writer Foxposted 11 years ago
    1. Gail Meyers profile image65
      Gail Meyersposted 11 years agoin reply to this

      http://the10things.com/working-from-hom … tion-jobs/

      This blog has copied my hub so others might want to check if he's copied yours too.

      1. Writer Fox profile image44
        Writer Foxposted 11 years agoin reply to this

        Report that blog to Google AdSense, too:

        https://support.google.com/adsense/trou … 0500?hl=en

  12. Muttface profile image80
    Muttfaceposted 11 years ago

    Just went to visit our old friend at all-topic and there is now a blank page with this message:
    "My website is come back soon! Thank you."

    1. Writer Fox profile image44
      Writer Foxposted 11 years agoin reply to this

      Success!

      If he does it again, it won't be on that URL.

  13. Solaras profile image84
    Solarasposted 11 years ago

    The rank 08 site is now Hawk Hosting but they still have the HP favicon.

    1. Solaras profile image84
      Solarasposted 11 years agoin reply to this

      This tells me that the heinous drop in pageviews is not to be attributed to stolen content.

      1. Writer Fox profile image44
        Writer Foxposted 11 years agoin reply to this

        Hawk Hosting is an affiliate of softlayer.com.  The DMCA requests were filed with softlayer and it removed the site from the hosting privileges given to Hawk Hosting.  What you are seeing now is a blank dashboard displayed by Hawk Hosting saying that there is no content on the Rank08 site anymore (because the host removed it).  If Rank08 resurfaces somewhere, it will be with a different hosting company.

     
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