I see that the general forum topics revolve around Hubs being copied, Hubpages not doing well, views going down, no future for hubpages, etc. etc. So the general unhappiness continues.. I had taken a break for about a month to write on other sites and of course, earn from it, but have returned with some pluses for Hubpages
1. The layout of Hubpages is by far the best
2. Wikinut is another site which gives most of the functionalities of Hubpages, but expects us to know basic level of formatting. Here the formatting is in-built
3. Hubpages may have lost rank but all is not lost yet. It finally boils down to the quality of articles we write
4. I have observed drop in traffic too, but let's have fun anyways
5. Articles being copied is not a phenomenon limited to Hubpages, it happens everywhere, so let's use the forum to talk about the transgressors rather than Hubpages not being good.
Just my views. You may differ but remember the world is as good or as bad as we perceive it to be... So let's keep Hubbing!!
I totally agree - Those d(&* content scrapers are everywhere. While I do believe HP should be more proactive in helping all of us deal with them, I understand it's an internet wide phenomenon.
Hub layouts are excellent. With a bit of work hubs can be beautiful, much more than other writing sites.
I blame Google for most of this mess. It's the constant having to pander to an everchanging Google that has lead to this constant onslaught of changes. Unfortunately, if you don't please the Google gods websites fail.
"1. The layout of Hubpages is by far the best"
I totally agree with that.
I get weary of the doom and gloom too. I can only speak personally, but for me HubPages is the best place to put my work. There are a couple of other platforms I really love, but my articles simply don't do as well there.
My traffic is fine. I have no complaints. Well, few complaints, anyway. I have a project planned for the fall to build out one of my subdomains and add another 100 hubs. I see no reason to stop adding content to this site. I'm not going anywhere.
I understand why some people are so unhappy here, and of course it doesn't make sense for them to stick around. If I felt the way they do I wouldn't spend one more second on this forum or this site. I don't waste time with with things that make me miserable in the real world, and there's no way I'd do it online. Life is too short.
Savio, your attitudes and mind (naturally) are so refreshingly optimistic.
I feel at times that I am wasting my time, and as iI get so dew hits now, it has a Catch 22 effect inasmuch as i feel there is little point in writing for this... or any other site.
There is a great plus, though, and that is the fact that I have "met" some exceptionally talented writers, and also some really worthwhile human beings. You being of that ilk, my friend.
Not much of a comment for a Forum, but perhaps I'll take my finger out and take the plunge again, after your words.
Then again, perhaps not.
Pfffft. My traffic is down, but it's still double what it was during '11. This'll bounce back. Leave my content alone, go write more content on other sites, wait for the jump back towards Christmas.
A lot (not all) people complaining have only been here a little while, so missed out on bigger shakeups.
WryLit, I agree, but this is the biggest shakeup for me. One thing I have to say though, Hubpages has always managed to get us out of these messes. I just get tired of it happening.
I guess I need to find something else to do on the side. My websites were hit too this time.
Agree with you WryLit. In fact it is similar to many freshers joining our company who seem to talk so many not-so-good things about the organization. In way of the discussion I realize that they are not even few months in the system... How is that for instant judgment!!
It is fun to hear them but no offence to their intention..
Already bouncing back a bit. I think that the new little platforms people use to look up info are creating an upsurge of short articles so that all the info can bit on a small screen. I write for people like me, people who want more than just a short blurb. I think that the people who want to read more want a magazine type article with lots of real info and images will help us here at HP return to our former glory.
That's how I tend to write too Dolores. Longer articles, but I always seem to have a lot to say! LOL
Dolores, if there were more writers like you, HP would be an amazing place. Your articles and writing skills make many of the other contributors' works look and read so pathetically.
Never give up. I love your style and vastly encompassing subjects.
You, my friend, would be a very hard act to follow.
People feel the need to complain at different times. Some have gotten it out of their system and moved through, others are just starting, and others are simply responding to a status quo that is not great right now.
If you don't feel like taking part in those thread they certainly are not compulsory. But is there much point in complaining about people complaining? Does that help? If your point is that a greater proportion of threads should be positive, then the jab at complainers could have been omitted.
Yep. There's nothing wrong with a good communal gripe. Besides, it gives the optimistic crowd something to react to, so they can point out the positives to the bitter and twisted faction.
Better out than in..
My comments surely must not have gone well with you.. But like I said this is my own opinion, as much as other hubbers' opinions on why Hubpages is not working... So, if there can be a vent out for them, I only plead a vent out for myself... Hope you are with me on this..
Love this post, Savio Dawson, my kind of 'hang in there', positive attitude. I think you're absolutely on point. My latest hub says the same about this site being a great place, despite the downsides. It's the nature of the beast. Are my views and earnings down? Of course. Did I get a nice spurt on Sunday, followed by a plunge on Monday? Absolutely. But I expect it now and try to adjust. No I haven't been around long enough to know all the ups and downs of Panda but I do know now. I'm still willing to stick it out here because I don't know anything else. Yes, it's demeaning to make $.34 a day but I've never made $1.00 a day here either and look forward to doing so one day, maybe this Fall or Winter when things stabilize.
I'm not ready to give up, either. My traffic decreased some, but surged back on Saturday and has increased every day since that time. I'm still finding HubPages the easiest place to to write, because of the features supplied. Bubblews is a fun place for a different writing experience and it gives me more energy to come back here with new ideas for Hubs.
Maybe we all need to follow Patty's lead. She writes constantly and Google might like so many new hubs being written.
I am on Bubblews too... ;-) .. .Savinomics
I may not be posting stuff as frequently but I'm not going anywhere. I've never earned much here anyway so I treat HP as a hobby/outlet. (It's less frustrating that way...)
I would not give up on HubPages. HP is the first revenue sharing site I started writing on and succeeded. I have earned tons of money on HubPages and still make a somewhat okay income with this site. I am now working at improving my hubs to get more traffic and earnings.
I tried the 'remaining optimistic' view too a good while back, sadly it has not paid off in the longer term. This is still a nice platform to use, a nice community etc, but to make money, nope, and I really don't see it resurrecting itself (especially as Google seem to be hammering the site hard with every new update). Phoenixes don't always rise from the ashes!
What sites are you finding to be more profitable. I am not giving up on HP, but would like to spread my eggs to other baskets if it makes sense.
I am not sure whom your question is for, however assuming it is for me... I write on Wikinut and Bubblews.. .Making money at both sites... :-)
I am on Bubblews too as Kittydog. And like Mistyhorizon2003 I make about $1.00 per post, but it requires a lot of community service, and I don't see a lot of residual income at this point once a post has passed off of my profile page.
How does Wikinut work?
Bear in mind that many Bubblews posts are now showing high up in Google searches (which is fast by normal Internet standards), so you aren't as reliant on visits internally on Bubblews as you might imagine. Give it time and with a bit of luck those same brief posts will age and get you more views from outside of Bubblews if you make the brief posts at least a little informative and not just details of what you had for breakfast etc.
Wikinut does not need you to have adsense and it allows you to post even content you have written on other sites.. Only you have to give the mods a heads up... Rajan jolly had written an article on that... You can read it here..
http://rajanjolly.hubpages.com/hub/Wiki … e-A-Review
I will share my own views soon as a hub... stay tuned..
I am now making money on Bubblews at a rate of about a $1 a post (a post only needs to have 400 characters, note I said characters not words). It takes me about 5 - 10 minutes to type out a brief post, and all of mine have a lot more than the 400 character minimum. I also make a small regular amount on my veggie growing website which I can see would be plenty more if I invested as much time there as I have done here.
It's my first time here and I find hard at first but I like it now because unlike other social site this helps me improve more on my English and vocabulary and Read about different articles.
I like HubPages but apparently my humor is not welcome here.
[Edit] I mean as far as getting hubs published. The users seem to enjoy my hubs.
I have not given up on HubPages, but I have grown tired of the forum.
I am very new here and trying to build my page by one hub a day (that is the goal anyways). I hope that I am putting my effort into the right place. ;-)
Just had ads disabled on 5 hubs today.
I think HP is gunning for me.
So...they are all being moved away to a better place.
Those five plus the 20 or so I unpublished.....well...my footprint here is getting smaller and smaller....
If I post a hub here, can I post it somewhere else if joined, say Bubblew? Or do I have to have completely unique content on every site I am part of? I just published hub #3. Trying to post a variety of hubs to see what people like.
You can't have duplicate content on either site.
If you remove it from here, just rewrite it.
Shouldn't take long .
Just look at the article from a different point of view and change it up.
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