Another site with stolen hubs

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   RonElFranposted 10 years ago

   I found my hub "Robert Smalls: A Civil War Hero’s Fight for Racial Equality" copied exactly on two sites, including photos with their captions, right down to the copyright notice, but with no link back to the hub.
   documentariezblog dot blogspot dot com/2014/03/robert-smalls-civil-war-heros-fight-for dot html
   history-and-archaeology dot blogspot.com/2014/03/robert-smalls-civil-war-heros-fight-for dot html
   Seems to be the same thief, but no indication of who he/she is appears on the site.
   I also saw a copy of JKenny's hub "The American Civil War: Battle Of Gettysburg" on both sites.

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      cmoneyspinner1tfposted 10 years agoin reply to this

      Azza Elsheikh??  BEE-gorah!  Shades of Ali Baba and the 40 Thieves!  Well!  You don't want the blog to be shut down for spamming do you?  That would be kind of an insult to your articles.  What should you do?  I liked the comment you left behind at both blogs.

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      myeffortsposted 10 years agoin reply to this

      Can't hubpages use a plugin to stop copying text from here. I have noticed that this feature is disabled at some websites.

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   MJenniferposted 10 years ago

   The thief is Azza Elsheikh -- here is their G+ page, which is filled with stolen hubs on history.  Georgie Lowery's hub on the Habsburg Jaw is stolen and pasted there as well.
   The thief:  https://plus.google.com/104182330050288894190/posts

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   RonElFranposted 10 years ago

   Thanks Treathyl.
   
   Here's a discovery: The copied hubs included polls. Out of curiosity I clicked to see if anyone had taken the poll on the copy. It didn't open the poll, but linked back to my original hub. So this thief inadvertently gave me a backlink, although a hidden one.

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      cmoneyspinner1tfposted 10 years agoin reply to this

      That's BULL!   A poll with your link?  What a load of malarkey!  Anyway Writer Fox has instructions for you to follow.  Suppose it wasn't a site owned and hosted BY Google.  Just throwing out a hypothetical.  We know this wouldn't happen in real life.

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         Marisa Wrightposted 10 years agoin reply to this

         Not sure what you mean.  Blogger is owned and hosted by Google.   Other than that, Google doesn't host websites or own websites.

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            Writer Foxposted 10 years agoin reply to this

            Google owns and hosts lots of websites, including: YouTube.com, Blogspot.com, Waze.com, Android.com, Panoramio.com, FeedBurner.com, Webmproject.org, Invitemedia.com, Webrtc.org Incubator.apache.org, Gwtproject.org, Orkut.com, Slicklogin.com, among others.

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               Marisa Wrightposted 10 years agoin reply to this

               Sorry I should've been more specific.  I was referring to places where people can write articles.  I haven't heard of some of the sites you mention, though - and I didn't know they owned Orkut.

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                  cmoneyspinner1tfposted 10 years agoin reply to this

                  "Not sure what you mean."  Marisa Wright - Who did you not understand?  Me or writer_fox?

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                     Marisa Wrightposted 10 years agoin reply to this

                     You.   You seemed to be implying that Google hosted most sites - maybe I misunderstood.
                     
                     There's a legal process for getting content removed from websites.  It's called DMCA.  You report the website to the company hosting it.   You can also report the website to Adsense, if they run Adsense ads - and that will get them banned from Adsense, which stops them earning money, which means they may pack up and close the site.
                     
                     Reporting to Google, as WF suggests, doesn't close the website down - what it does is remove the site from Google search results, so very few people will come across it.

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                        cmoneyspinner1tfposted 10 years agoin reply to this

                        OK Marisa.  This time I understood you very clearly.  There are ways of dealing with the problem no matter who owns or hosts the site.  Got it!

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               cmoneyspinner1tfposted 10 years agoin reply to this

               Yes writer_fox. My point was if your under-age children do something wrong, the cops come to the parents.  (That's been my experience.  But I don't want to get off topic.)  Legally, if you own something and it's violating some else, you should be able to go to the owner and see if y'all can straighten it out.  SO if it's a Google site, go to Google.  But what if it's not?

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   Writer Foxposted 10 years ago

   That blog site is owned and hosted by Google. To have the blog shut down, follow this procedure:
   
   Go to this link and check the first item on the list: Blogger/Blogspot
   
   https://support.google.com/legal/troubl … 14905?rd=2
   
   Follow the instructions from there to file the DMCA request to have them stop hosting the site.
   
   Then, go to this link, sign in to your Webmaster Tools account, and fill out the form to have the blog removed from search engine results:
   
   https://www.google.com/webmasters/tools/dmca-notice
   
   When the blog has been removed after a few days, go to the first link again, choose Web Search, and have the cache copy of the blog removed.

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      RonElFranposted 10 years agoin reply to this

      Thanks, Writer Fox. I put in a DMCA request, but didn't know about using Webmaster Tools to get them removed from search results. Good info!

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   RonElFranposted 10 years ago

   I don't know whether to laugh or cry. Having found both my Robert Smalls hubs stolen, I decided to check on my "What Is Love In The Bible?" hub. I found 19 Google entries beside my own! Many are on the same domain.
   
   I just wonder: at 19 copies do I have the record, or has someone found even more of their hubs represented? Maybe this can be a new HubPages contest.

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   RonElFranposted 10 years ago

   Thanks, MJennifer. I did find the name, and have submitted a DMCA request to Google.

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   Mel Carriereposted 10 years ago

   How are you able to investigate where your articles are posted on other sites?  I have found a couple of my hubs posted on other sites but fortunately they linked back to my original article so I didn't care, because I was getting credit and paid.  But I would like to check for illegal uses of my articles.

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      RonElFranposted 10 years agoin reply to this

      Mel, what I do is to copy the first phrase of the hub that has my unique wording, then do an exact search (in quotes) in Google.

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   RonElFranposted 10 years ago

   Here's another angle on copying.
   
   I found the first few paragraphs of my "First Black Female Naval Officers" hub used in an official US Navy publication. It's a very well done article that I'd be happy to have my work associated with - except that they don't give any credit or link.
   
   Since it is the Navy, and they don't copy the whole article, I think I'll just let this one go. But what is a bit galling is: their article appears ahead of mine in Google Search using my exact wording as the search term.
   
   Good thing I'm patriotic!

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      Writer Foxposted 10 years agoin reply to this

      There's a form for that, too.  Only use this when copied content outranks yours:
      
      https://docs.google.com/forms/d/1Pw1KVO … Y/viewform
      
      You should never allow your content to be copied.  If that were my article, I'd file a DMCA against the site.

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      Marisa Wrightposted 10 years agoin reply to this

      I suggest you write them a polite email, pointing out that the work is copyright and therefore should not have been used without your permission.   However you'll be happy to waive your usual fee provided they include a link to the original article.
      
      Government bodies are sticklers for correct procedure, usually.  You may find they'll respond and offer to pay your fee!   I've been paid that way twice so I'm $100 richer for having made a small effort.

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         Barbara Kayposted 10 years agoin reply to this

         That is an excellent idea and good way to get paid well for our work.

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            RonElFranposted 10 years agoin reply to this

            I concur. Thanks, Marisa.

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      cmoneyspinner1tfposted 10 years agoin reply to this

      Yes Ron.  Good thing you are patriotic.

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   Nell Roseposted 10 years ago

   There are loads on there, I just took a look, I let a couple of people know.

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    cmoneyspinner1tfposted 10 years ago

    So now I'm befuddled.  If your work is copied - without your permission - but it plainly says it's your work with or without a copyright symbol, aren't you being given credit for your work?  (The answer is "Yes.  But according to the law they were supposed to get your permission."  Right?) 
    
    If they copy - without your permission - but they include copyright and back link or show the link where they got the work from, are they still considered thieves?  (The answer is "Uh???" which I borrowed per Scooby-doo.) 
    
    Seriously.  I had someone say they appreciate me sharing but the fact is, if I included the entire article at my site, with author credit and link, 9 times out of 10, the reader is not going to click over to visit the original work.  WHY? Because they already read it at my site! Makes sense.
    
    So, bottom line for me, this wholesale copying is not cool!  Providing an excerpt to peak a reader's curiosity, and a link to show them where to get the rest of the story, seems fair to all parties involved.
    
    When the HP Team says share HUBs, they don't mean copy the entire HUB and showcase it at another website!!

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    originalcontentposted 10 years ago

    I don't understand one tiny thing!
    Hubpages pays us to write rich content,
    Ebay want's an AD-aff,
    Amazon want's an AD-aff,
    GOOGLE want's ADSENSE, on our hubs!
    Now here is the thing...
    WE NEED COPYRIGHTS
    WE NEED COPYRIGHTS
    WE NEED COPYRIGHTS
    We need to stop people from copying our HUBPAGES content and put it out of HUBPAGES for some link bullshit, i do not want to be linked.
    YOU WANT A REAL CONTENT YOU COME TO HUBPAGES...NO PLACE ELSE
    STOP
    STOP
    STOP
    LINKING OUR HUBPAGES...MAKE IT A LAW

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       wildernessposted 10 years agoin reply to this

       You have a copyright, through the Digital Millenium Copyright Act.  It is up to you, however, to enforce it; no cop will be looking for copies of your hubs and issuing take down orders.
       
       If you know how to stop people from copying it, the world would like to know.  No one yet has figured out how to accomplish that trick.

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          cmoneyspinner1tfposted 10 years agoin reply to this

          Digital Millenium Copyright Act?  Thank you sir.  I learned something new.

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