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   Rochelle Frankposted 16 years ago

   Overnight, I gained five fans.
   All of the names(but one) were totally unfamiliar.
   
   I had not read  or commented on any of their hubs(except one) so I went to check the profiles and hubtivity of each.
   
   One had fanned about 20 people in the past 8 hours.
   One had fanned about 40 people in the past 11 hours.
   One had fanned about 360 people in the past 11 hours.
   
   And the "winner"--  had fanned about 3,940 people in the past 28 hours-- and was still at it. He also had fanned about another 760 in the previous two weeks. I'm pretty sure he is your fan, too.
   
   I read the work of a hubber before I become a fan. I leave a comment.
   
   Apparently, it is not against the rules to fish for fans,or try to expand your own fan base in this way, but it sure doesn't look good.

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      pauldeedsposted 16 years agoin reply to this

      We recognize most of these types of antisocial behavior, and they are automatically reflected in Hubber score.

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         Rochelle Frankposted 16 years agoin reply to this

         Thanks, Paul. I thought this might be the case.
         Sorry for the can of worms.. I'm hiding my can opener now.

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            AEvansposted 16 years agoin reply to this

            It took me 17 months to accumulate as many fans as I have, regretably I am not everyone's fan on my list. I have scrolled to the end of my fan list and have found that they have not published a single article. I enjoy running across a new article and reading it , if I find that I want to become a fan I certainly do. I also find myself popping in from time to time to read my fans articles , although I am finding it more and more difficult as the fan list grows, but I certainly put forth an effort. Someone joining 12-1300 fan lists in a matter of days is amazing, I don't know how they do it as I would rather read and comment, then just join for the heck of it. Only my opinion.

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         JamaGeneeposted 16 years agoin reply to this

         Thanks for the heads up, Paul.  If "fan spamming" results in a lower hubber score, which in turn affects GPR (google page rank), what's the point?  Better to spend that time writing hubs which will draw fans to them, which in turn will result in a higher score everywhere.

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   Rochelle Frankposted 16 years ago

   Since I posted the first message he has added another 100 to his list.

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   DonnaCSmithposted 16 years ago

   Busy little bee, eh? I wonder where he/she finds the time?

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      Rochelle Frankposted 16 years agoin reply to this

      Laid off? He's even fanning people who have been inactive for a year.

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   BristolBoyposted 16 years ago

   I am the same.  I have heard of people who add everyone who becomes their fans.  However, I have chosen not to do this and only become fans of those who I have liked the hubs of.  This means that I only recieve emails alerting me to new hubs of those people which I like.

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      JamaGeneeposted 16 years agoin reply to this

      My own personal scoring system:
      Read a new fan's hub.
      If I like it, I hit Thumbs Up.
      If I like the hub a lot, I leave a comment.
      If I read and like more of a new fan's hubs, I'll become their fan too.
      
      Simple.

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         AEvansposted 16 years agoin reply to this

         It is simple isn't it..

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         Elena.posted 16 years agoin reply to this

         Then let me say I'm very honored, Jama. And while I'm here not having a life, ahem, let me also say I'm thinking devious ways to be grateful!  Laugh!  I'm just kidding, Jama sweetheart, BUT I am really honored, that's no joke!

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   Rochelle Frankposted 16 years ago

   I'm thinking of sending him a request on the subject "Is it ethical, honorable or respectable to become the fan of thousands of hubbers, for the sole purpose of expanding your fan list?"

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   RKHenryposted 16 years ago

   You know, each hubber has the right to run their hubber business they why they want too. Irregardless to how you choose to run yours.  So people fish for fans.  What's it to you anyways?  Are they hurting your business?  You know, my girlfriend isn't too fond of the whore houses outside Las Vegas, NV.  She thinks operating a whore house is an act against humanity.  She feels whore houses are ran like cattle stockyards.  Okay.  Who gives a rat's butt?  Them whore houses make millions of dollars. Those girls like there profession. They make millions of dollars every month or two.  If they want to sell sex, and have an Easter egg hunt between those girls legs, so be it.  What's to bitch about?  Its legal.
   
   So a hubber collects fans like they were baseball cards.  Let them run there business the way they like it.  Why post a thread and publicly bitch about them?  Some people are here for companionship.  Some people are here to make money.  Posting threads like this, could potentially harm another hubbers business- if one of their clients would happen to read this thread.  What right do you have in creating this potential damage?  It's not your life.  It's not your account. 
   
   Talk about being petty.  Get a life.

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      Zsuzsy Beeposted 16 years agoin reply to this

      Wow that was rude and an uncalled for posting on your part. If the non-reading type of hubber has the to right to become a fan of thousands of people so does the other hubber have a right to complain about the uselessness of that type of a fan.
      
      Rochelle I'm with you on this one hundred percent. I would rather have fewer fans that are my fan because they like what I have to say then one who just clicks a button in the hopes that I will become his fan too. 
      
      I'm lucky enough to have 559 fans at the moment (I very well might loose some after this) but I can honestly say that I have checked out each and everyones hubs. This is the way I find hubbers that I want to be a fan of. And if those that I'm a fan of end up writing only rubbish after that first few good ones then I have also un-fanned (if there is such a word)... you see that is every hubber right also.
      
      The Forum is for this type of posting whether you like it or not. To use some of your words '...What's to bitch about?  Its legal.'

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      Rochelle Frankposted 16 years agoin reply to this

      You are probably right about most of that, RK.
      I didn't mention any names and I do not care how people run their business. It's not my intention to harm And I don't think I'm creating 'potential damage'.
      If people are using tactics that make other people feel they are being played, they are harming themselves. So I should just leave it be.

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         RKHenryposted 16 years agoin reply to this

         I see. 
         
         But it's like this for me, whatever floats their boat is alright with me.  Some people need security.  Maybe this avenue provides that for them.

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      darksideposted 16 years agoin reply to this

      I like the comparison. I think you're spot on!
      
      From now on I'll call those prolific befrienders 'fan whores'.

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         AEvansposted 16 years agoin reply to this

         Holy Canoli!!!

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   Anna Marie Bowmanposted 16 years ago

   I was on last night, about 3am, and he was going at it, and he's either going at it again, or still going at it.  I don't care, but it does make it distracting when you are trying to see something useful on the Hubtivity page.  All I see is a long row of so-and-so became the fan of so-and-so.

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      pauldeedsposted 16 years agoin reply to this

      If you quit his fan club, you won't see his activity in your hubtivity.

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      JamaGeneeposted 16 years agoin reply to this

      Anne Marie, on your profile page, there's a link to "Edit Hubtivity preferences".  Under "Fans", if you un-select the choices, you'll no longer see who-fanned-who.
      
      Personally, I keep the top two selected, just to see who hubbers I admire have chosen to fan. A good recommendation.

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   cindyvineposted 16 years ago

   Having read all the posts I agree with everything Jama said and do the same

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      JamaGeneeposted 16 years agoin reply to this

      Cindy, glad you like my system. Are you packed yet?

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   cindyvineposted 16 years ago

   Nooooooo, this hubpages is keeping me from everything I should be doing!

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      AEvansposted 16 years agoin reply to this

      I got my done earlier today and "fan fishing" someone is catching some tadpoles, have you seen Andy Baker? He is like the energizer bunny..lolololol

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      JamaGeneeposted 16 years agoin reply to this

      Well, then I shouldn't suggest you write a hub about what's involved in moving from one country to another, right??

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    cindyvineposted 16 years ago

    Why do people want to do that?  Aren't his Hubs good enough to attract fans?

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    Feline Prophetposted 16 years ago

    I did wonder when a certain hubber went on a fan spree a couple of weeks back...is it still happening? And here I was naively thinking he actually read all those hubs and was impressed enough to become a fan!

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       AEvansposted 16 years agoin reply to this

       It takes me an eternity to read a mass amount of articles , if they have a system to reading quickly they should share as I would certainly like to know.

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          JamaGeneeposted 16 years agoin reply to this

          Try - if the first paragraph doesn't grab you, stop and click to someone else's hub.

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             AEvansposted 16 years agoin reply to this

             Jama, what are we going to do with you??? It is nuts isn't it?? All of the spinning and clogging up hubtivity and then you have the nice young man who can't stand women and of course we all commented on his article, he was truly an odd little person.

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                JamaGeneeposted 16 years agoin reply to this

                **Which** nice young man? We've had quite a few "odd little people" here lately.  And it's not even a full moon!

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                   agvulpesposted 16 years agoin reply to this

                   I thought it was, silly me.

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    2patriciasposted 16 years ago

    When Hubbers  join our Fan list  we like to think that this is because they have read at least one of our Hubs and liked them! However, we did have a recent bit of fan mail that said 'please join my fan list.'  However, we do not join fan lists unless we actually like their Hubs.  On our 'cross and grumpy' days we sometimes wish there was a group for 'I am the opposite of a fan'.  But on rational (nice) days we realise that hub pages is generally a nice place, so we don't really want that option.
    Occasionally we can through the list of our fans and read their Hubs.  There are a few Hubbers that we like that we always read - and sometimes we even email each other pointing out particularly good Hubs.

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    sunforgedposted 16 years ago

    IDK..why not just check out there hubs, if they are truly subpar...thumbs down and/or flag until they have nothing left to try and promote via "overfanning"
    
    since they fan so many..if just afew react this way...they should be shut down rather quickly

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       AEvansposted 16 years agoin reply to this

       sunforged what would we do without you...(((big hugs))) :::::::::::::::::::

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       JamaGeneeposted 16 years agoin reply to this

       sunforged, are you writing from the hot tub??

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    sunforgedposted 16 years ago

    sadly yes!

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       JamaGeneeposted 16 years agoin reply to this

       I dunno...can't think of anything sad about sittin' in a hot tub with a laptop.  Oh...right...it's Saturday night.  Sorry.

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          sunforgedposted 16 years agoin reply to this

          it was 3am  here!

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    sunforgedposted 16 years ago

    but its to damn cold in ny..to take my hands out of the water to type!

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    Dame Scribeposted 16 years ago

    I like my fans too. I actually sit for hours going through my fans Hubs. I may not always say anything but I give them my thumbs up and time. I dont think anything was wrong Rochelle about that fan spamming comment, lol

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    Rochelle Frankposted 16 years ago

    I think he posted fan mails for 21 hours straight yesterday... during one particularly 'good' hour he posted about 300 of them.
    I wonder if he has a program that does this automatically? or maybe employees who take shifts?
    For all of the activity in the past 2 days he has gained about 30 fans, but his hubber's score has gone from 42 to 22.
    Probably hasn't had time to check this thread.
    
    I just read three of his hubs-- what a surprise-- duplicate content under a different name. Wonder if he is being copied?

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