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   gmwilliamsposted 8 years ago

   
   Do any of you strongly contend that some of the content are merely elementary, even substandard in scope?  Do you further contend that many articles and particularly poems are just written without deep thought and analysis with the sole purpose of getting attention?   Do you maintain that the quality of hubs and poetry should be of qualitative writing standards?  I have read things today, especially "poetry" which literally took my breath away and not in the positive sense.

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      LeanManposted 8 years agoin reply to this

      In my mind what makes good "creative writing" is completely subjective..
      
      Some like traditional style long winded "moving poetry, while others like short Haiku that to me make no sense at all... I would rather read a good limerick that makes me giggle..
      
      Poetry does nothing for me at all - and I don't care if that means I have no soul or anything else.... Even the stuff that consensus says is great just makes me go "so?" or "what?"
      
      There are some deluded writers that churn out crap that they think is wonderful and their followers will always help them with thinking that their "new clothes" are wonderful...
      
      Meanwhile - who searches for poetry? Is Hubpages the first port of call for serious poetry fans to go searching for new stuff?

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         Solarasposted 8 years agoin reply to this

         +

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      Kylyssaposted 8 years agoin reply to this

      That depends on what you are trying to say. Are you saying poetry ought not to be allowed on HubPages? Or are you saying poetry ought to be held to some kind of quality standards?

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         SmartAndFunposted 8 years agoin reply to this

         Gm can answer for herself, but I think she's probably referring to a troll account that was posting crazy-ridiculous (very funny) poetry to call attention to the fact that the poetry category has zero quality requirements -- anything will pass QAP as long as it is placed in the poetry category.

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         gmwilliamsposted 8 years agoin reply to this

         All hubs, including poetry, should be held to qualitative standards.

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            Chriswillman90posted 8 years agoin reply to this

            Agreed but I'll give creative writing the benefit of a doubt. There are some excellent poetry writers on here but too many people write nonsense poems for the sake of getting extra views quickly. Most poems are short and easy to write, which could be deemed unacceptable if not done well.

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   FatFreddysCatposted 8 years ago

   If this is a fancy way of asking "is there a lot of crap on HubPages?"... the answer is "oh hell yes!"

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      gmwilliamsposted 8 years agoin reply to this

      Keith, I was trying to be polite and politically correct in the premise.  If I said what I was going to say in all its rawness, I would have been banned for being vituperative and that WOULDN'T be nice at all.  So I did not want to go.........THERE.  Continue the discussion at hand.
      

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         Kiss andTalesposted 8 years agoin reply to this

         We do not know everything behind close doors
         And  it is never wise to force a door open when
         Some one can be standing behind it, their has been much change here on HP, we have enjoyed much freedom of speech and opinions,  some many an income for writing , me personally no.
         But I enjoy the hubers here I have as an interchange  I have been able to really hear what is truly on people's mind, not that I agree some time with them , but I truly appreciate their feedback, some people are nice some are not , some are wise some are not, some are just trying to get the truth of a matter , some not, but I know this for sure HP has been valuble to many, I happily include myself.

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      NateB11posted 8 years agoin reply to this

      Lol

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   psycheskinnerposted 8 years ago

   This is a content site and the goal of good content is to create revenue.  Other considerations are secondary in this context.

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   brandonbutlerposted 8 years ago

   Good Contents That Brings Outside Traffic To Your Hubs Brings Revenue To This Site Which Is The Bottom Line Of It All For Yourself As A Writer And The Site As A Business. Don't Let The Number By Your Profile Photo Fool You. Be Yourself And Let The Good Contents Flow Out To All Of Your Outside Traffic That Is Coming To Your Hubs. The Name Of This Outside Traffic Is Called Unknown Sources From Unknown Traffic From Outer Space Traffic On The Internet.

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      SmartAndFunposted 8 years agoin reply to this

      Are You Related To Jaden Smith? Do You Have A Program That Types All Your Words In Title Case Or Do You Do It Manually? Because I Must Say Doing It Manually Is Rather Tedious. Now, What Is This About A Spaceship?

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   brandonbutlerposted 8 years ago

   I Do It All Manually And This Is My Writing Style That My Niche Audience Outside Traffic Is Known By And Loyal To All Of My Contents Online. The Spaceship Thing Is My Outside Traffic That Is Coming To My Hubs From Unknown Traffic Sources On The Internet. I Now Have 90 Views For My 10 Hubs Within 20 Hours After Signing Up To This Site And Growing At An Doubling Growth Rate Which Is My Special Spaceship On This Site For My Viral Marketing Traffic To My 10 hubs On This Site. Thank You For Asking About The Spaceship.

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      SmartAndFunposted 8 years agoin reply to this

      OK Cool, Good To Know And Nice To Meet You. Welcome To HubPages and Best Wishes To You In Your Quest To Conquer Outer Space.

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   brandonbutlerposted 8 years ago

   Thank You. My Mission Have Been Accomplished On This Site And Thank You For Your Warm Welcome And I Wish You The Very Best Also.

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   calculus-geometryposted 8 years ago

   Well, HP killed off diana, RIP sweet angel. 
   
   Of course they will cover it up to make it look like she died in a fire.  Bigfoot will be heartbroken.

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      SmartAndFunposted 8 years agoin reply to this

      Poor Diana! Such Sad News. I Prefer To Believe That She Is Merely Enjoying A Long, Peaceful Spaceship Ride Through The Depths Of Outer Space And Eternity. Please Extend My Condolences To Bigfoot. One Day Bigfoot Will Join Her And Together They Shall Ride The Spaceship Through Eternity.
      
      My Apologies to Brandonbutler For Stealing Your Style Niche But It Has Served Me Well This Morning. I Will Turn It Back To You Now. Thank You For Understanding.

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         LongTimeMotherposted 8 years agoin reply to this

         I think you could claim it as your own if you want. You are, after all, SmartAndFun. The other hubber's name is all lower case ...
         
         lol. Or should that be LaughOutLoud?

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            theraggededgeposted 8 years agoin reply to this

            And He's Already Left The Building... or been kicked out of it!

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               LongTimeMotherposted 8 years agoin reply to this

               Fortunately his mission was accomplished on this site 22 hours ago. Phew!

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   FatFreddysCatposted 8 years ago

   Kylyssa, F.Y.I., posting links to your own Hubs in the forums is a no-no.. just sayin'

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      Kylyssaposted 8 years agoin reply to this

      Thanks. I'm just trying to figure out if GM thinks it's trash.

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         calculus-geometryposted 8 years agoin reply to this

         It doesn't matter if one user thinks two poems by another user are trash or treasure.  You're missing the larger point to make it about you for some reason. 
         
         The larger point regarding poetry on this site is that QAP raters pass everything regardless of quality if the hub is categorized as poetry.  That's what the Diana account demonstrated with her hilariously bad-on-purpose and inappropriate joke poems, especially the one titled "Passing QAP." (And she did this over a year ago with her other banned joke account PoeticFailosophy) To be fair, I'm not sure GMWilliams gets that point either.
         
         QAP is weak at screening the normal prose content on this site,  and completely broken when it comes to screening creative writing.

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            SmartAndFunposted 8 years agoin reply to this

            Yes. For example, two of Diana's featured poems which passed QAP were: "My Butt Itches: An Acrostic Poem" and "UnderBoob Sweat: An Acrostic Poem."

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            Kylyssaposted 8 years agoin reply to this

            Oh. The OP read to me like a passive-aggressive poke at poetry hubs. I was wondering if a person who thinks poetry is trash would be willing to say, to their author, that their specific work is just trash that doesn't belong on HubPages.
            
            Wouldn't it be easier to just say what you did, that QAP is far too lenient?
            
            While Diana was making a point with the purposely bad poems, I'm concerned that what people will get out of it that poetry is trash that ought to be blocked rather than that QAP is a joke.

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   FatFreddysCatposted 8 years ago

   The same person who asked a number of questions about the proper head gear for various odd occasions, right? Yeah, he or she was....errrr.... interesting.
   
   He/she left a comment on my Hub about the "Scooby-Doo and KISS" movie, asking if it was a true story. I replied "of course it is."

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    ahorsebackposted 8 years ago

    If you want featured hubs  , don't bother writing poetry at all !    Write the one thousandth hub about  How to  use a debit card correctly or some such nonsense !

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       DzyMsLizzyposted 8 years agoin reply to this

       I think the general dumbing-down of the readership (thanks to the failure of our school system), is worse than that, even.
       If you want popular-to-the-masses hubs, you must write the elevnty-'leventh hub on the "Kartrashians" or "honey poo-poo,"  or about some male actor's "hot six-pack."
       It's sad, that this country has degenerated to that level of shallow "infotainment" in preference to actual, useful information, and historical pieces
       I, for one, refuse to cater to that mindset, and I will not write such tripe.  If that means my ultimate failure here on HP, then so be it.  I will then at least have my dignity and honor intact.

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          gmwilliamsposted 8 years agoin reply to this

          Well spoken like the true and noble lady you are.  I also refuse to write drivel.  There are some intelligent life out there.  HubPages is a place(supposed to be) where articles should be of high qualitative standards for a literate, intelligent audience.  Such people DO EXIST, believe it or not!

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       gmwilliamsposted 8 years agoin reply to this

       +1,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000!

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          paradigm searchposted 8 years agoin reply to this

          You again.

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    FatFreddysCatposted 8 years ago

    I have a feeling that said troll is back again with a new account name. I won't "out" them because I think it's kinda funny, but I'm sure you'll know him/her when you see him/her posting...
    
    (and before anyone asks: NO, I am not said troll. I wish I was as witty/clever as this person.)

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    Faceless39posted 8 years ago

    I Hub Hop daily to "vote with my feet" so to speak. You can too: http://hubpages.com/hop/

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