How should I respond to a Hub Pro edit?

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   CatherineGiordanoposted 8 years ago

   I opted in to Hub Pro and I just had my first edit. Nothing was changed except to remove three of my four amazon capsules and remove links to other websites that I included to provide supporting evidence for my claims. So I'm pretty proud that the editors didn't feel the need to change, or add, even a word.  I'm willing to the advice of the experts and let them make any changes that they think will improve my hub.  I assume that there is nothing I have to do. Am I right that doing nothing means I accept the changes?

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      kenneth averyposted 8 years agoin reply to this

      Catherine,
      I haven't went to Hub Pro yet. I do not have the courage. Or thick skin.
      Loved your comment.

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      Millionaire Tipsposted 8 years agoin reply to this

      There are several different types of editing, and lately, they have been taking out Amazon capsules and links to get a hub ready to a niche site.  This really isn't a full blown HubPro edit.  They may do that later when they have the time.
      
      So far, I have been letting them snip my Amazon capsules, because they haven't deleted ones that I think brings me the sales.

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      Misfit Chickposted 8 years agoin reply to this

      It sounds to me more like you've been 'snipped' - which is a different, new feature than Hub Pro. http://blog.hubpages.com/2015/12/14/new … ty-alerts/
      
      Snipping does just what you said it did: snips what is considered to be over-promotional links. It's Okay to add some back in if you think they are important to the article - I added a couple of those 'more info' links back in; along with restoring most of the Amazon capsules that were removed. If they go overboard, it's okay to restore within reason.
      
      However, this snipping will supposedly help with search engines.

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         kenneth averyposted 8 years agoin reply to this

         Misfit Chick . . . I received an email from HP telling me that 1 or more of my hubs had been "sniped" and moved to niche sites. Now in layman's terms, would YOU break this down for me?
         Their email said that although my hubs were "sniped," they would continue to make money and get traffic.
         Is this true.
         Many thanks and I.O.U. a fresh doughnut.

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            Misfit Chickposted 8 years agoin reply to this

            LoL! Their original post claims that this new 'snipping' feature is/was for hubs that were in danger of becoming 'unfeatured' or were close to being featured.
            
            They snipped two of my hubs, both are Editor's Choice hubs that were NOT in danger of becoming unfeatured - at all. They removed THREE out of four Amazon products from my most profitable hub. Yeah, I replaced a couple of them. However, so far this month - that particular hub is making HALF of what it has been making. It may increase yet I suppose. But, it isn't a very good sign, so far.
            
            I really don't like the seemingly-deceptive way this was presented to us.

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               kenneth averyposted 8 years agoin reply to this

               Do you like Krispy Kreme or regular doughnuts?

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      Kylyssaposted 8 years agoin reply to this

      Make sure you can find duplicates of the photos you have before the edit because they may lose some of their resolution if you try to restore them from the before/after diff document. You may wish to put them back if the images supplied by HP don't match the content as well as the originals.
      
      I screwed up by not doing that and now I have to remake the craft project and take new photos of the steps because the ones they added do not exactly match the instructions and I couldn't locate the originals.

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      CatherineGiordanoposted 8 years agoin reply to this

      On thing that did surprise me was the snipping of links to other websites. It used to be encouraged to link to authoritative relevant websites.I tried to do that for every hub. Now links are snipped. It's really hard when the "rules" keep changing.

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         Kylyssaposted 8 years agoin reply to this

         Be sure to save the source links they snipped because the team is sure to eventually see that Google does not, in fact, punish or dislike links to authoritative sources. It's more professional to properly source your articles and HubPages is likely to learn that looking more professional is a good idea at some point.

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      bravewarriorposted 8 years agoin reply to this

      I've had a hub "snipped" of the Amazon capsule. They said the product didn't apply to the article, but what they snipped was not the item I originally chose. It seems the Amazon capsules are the first to go. How, then, are we supposed to make money? It seems they do this just before moving the hub to one of the vertical niche sites.

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         Jean Bakulaposted 8 years agoin reply to this

         The terms are very strict regarding Amazon capsules. The product has to directly relate to what your hub subject is, and it also depends on how many words your hub is. The word count keeps changing, but check in the Terms of Service.
         
         I have also had hubs snipped and they do take away Amazon hubs. But out of my hubs moved to niche sites, I am making more money on them. I think we have to wait and see.

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            bravewarriorposted 8 years agoin reply to this

            The hub in question was a review of the Serta 3" Memory Foam Mattress topper. I chose that very product when I inserted the Amazon capsule (and the hub was more than long enough and was moved to a niche site). However, when I looked at what was snipped, the product was a memory foam pillow - not what I'd chosen.

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               Jean Bakulaposted 8 years agoin reply to this

               Shhh.....I have gone back to the Niche Sites a time or two and changed a picture or Amazon thing I hated and they never took the hub off the Niche. Why don't you just put the correct Amazon product on that you wanted? Just make sure your word count is OK. The edit mode still works, as long as nobody on the HP side is still working on it.
               
               Hope that helps.

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                  bravewarriorposted 8 years agoin reply to this

                  Thanks, Jean.

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   Austinstarposted 8 years ago

   I think you may have to accept the edits, but they don't make it clear about which of the edited links to click on. I think it's  the one that says "see live on HP", but im not sure.

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      CatherineGiordanoposted 8 years agoin reply to this

      It seems that just opening the hub and then leaving without changing anything makes the snips permanent.

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   paradigmsearchposted 8 years ago

   "How should I respond to a Hub Pro edit?"
   
   You say, "Thank you, ma'am. May I have another?"

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      TIMETRAVELER2posted 8 years agoin reply to this

      +1
      
      I am happy to have my work professionally edited because I learn a great deal from the changes I see.  You don't have to do a thing, just reap the benefits!

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         Jean Bakulaposted 8 years agoin reply to this

         If one of your hubs was edited, you will see a green pencil with a red exclamation point next to it by it's title on your account page. If it was moved to a niche site, the green pencil is still there, but the red exclamation mark is gone, and you'll see your hub on the other site.
         
         Also, they email you to tell you it's been edited. So far, I haven't had many changes, they left my wording alone. They seem to be deleting Amazon capsules, unless the hub is about a specific hub you have information about. At least that's how it seems to be working for me.

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            kenneth averyposted 8 years agoin reply to this

            Are we having fun yet?

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               CatherineGiordanoposted 8 years agoin reply to this

               HI Ken, Yes I'm having fun. I always wondered my HP didn't think my hubs were good enough to qualify for Pro or for niche sights. I think I have about two dozen that should qualify.

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            CatherineGiordanoposted 8 years agoin reply to this

            Thanks Jean Baluka. I think I will save them the trouble and stat removing all amazon capsules leaving only one highly relevant capsule per hub. The email said something about the potential to be moved to a niche site. After I looked at the hub, the red mark disappeared from the green pro symbol, so I guessed there was nothing I had to do on my end.

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      CatherineGiordanoposted 8 years agoin reply to this

      paradigmsearch: LOL. I think that is the right attitude to take.

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         Jean Bakulaposted 8 years agoin reply to this

         Hi Kenneth,
         How are you? Yes, HP has been tinkering a lot with our hubs to either get them ready for the niche sites, or just to bring them up to what they think is a better standard. I was shocked at the first hub they chose of mine. It does get traffic, but it's not what I think is my best writing.
         
         I guess we stay for the people we like here, and sort of because it's a habit.

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   kenneth averyposted 8 years ago

   Catherine,
   You being happy makes me happy. Isn't that what life on this earth all about?

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   FlourishAnywayposted 8 years ago

   I opted out of Hub Pro after they missed some typos and primarily focused on taking Amazon capsules out of my highest traffic hubs.  I liked some original photos they added but the main focus was Amazon capsule deletion.  A useless "service."

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      Misfit Chickposted 8 years agoin reply to this

      I opted out of Hub Pro a long time ago - this 'snipping' feature is different and mandatory; although you can change things back just like the rest of their new editing features. However, in this case, you have to completely re-create the deleted capsule that you want restored - instead of being able to just hit 'restore'.
      
      I read somewhere that Amazon capsules are especially being targeted; and that we will 'be lucky' if there are any amazon products left in hubs after they are snipped. I have had them remove every single one - and all of them applied to the article. I'm not one of those people who regularly goes overboard on those types of products. My hubs are long, and three - four most - is what is contained in them. Apparently, Google does not like Amazon. Lucky us.

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         CatherineGiordanoposted 8 years agoin reply to this

         I thought all of my amazon capsules were relevant. However, the one that was left was the most relevant. I figure HP is the expert at this so I will follow their advice. I guess google wants to show people content, not ads. Makes sense.

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            Misfit Chickposted 8 years agoin reply to this

            Neither Google nor HP should have issues with a few Amazon capsules that apply to content being written - the fact that they are making such a big deal about it IS relevant.
            
            Because if I can't make money off of the Amazon capsules that were providing a nice chunk of income - it would be more beneficial for me to move all of my content into my own blogs so that I CAN make money off of them. This is a headache that I don't want to take on, but I will if I have to. SEO to bring them up into the search engines isn't that hard. And if they do well in Hubpages, they will do just as well in a blog. I know this, I have other blogs that do just fine without HP.

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               CatherineGiordanoposted 8 years agoin reply to this

               It is true that amazon can bring in way more money than views. However, One click-bait capsule can work as well as 2 or 3 capsules. Once someone gets to amazon, they will see the other offerings. I sometimes see something from my amazon capsule along with sales of related products. I assume that someone got to amazon by clicking on my link and then bought other stuff along with (or sometimes instead of) what I advertised.) Anyway, I'll see what happens.

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                  Jean Bakulaposted 8 years agoin reply to this

                  Hi Catherine,
                  Yes, they definitely are taking off most of the Amazon capsules. I was gradually taking them off anyway, as the rules keep changing and I never made much money on them. I left one, on a hub about a Tarot card deck, and the Amazon capsule with that deck was the only one still standing.
                  
                  There aren't word or grammar corrections and I have some pretty long hubs, so that makes me feel good. I am still worried about what category they will put some of my hubs in. Also, I have a lot of "series" hubs, and I hope they keep all the parts together or they won't make sense.
                  
                  I guess we have to wait and see. Only one of my hubs was moved, and it is getting much less traffic on the niche site, Dengarden, which I think is not a name people will think of when looking for gardening hubs. Best of luck to you.

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                     Misfit Chickposted 8 years agoin reply to this

                     Best of luck to you, too. I have been wondering about some of the niche site names, too - but I am assuming that HP hired people who know what they are doing.
                     
                     However, in my experience - the main search word, such as 'garden' should be the first part of the URL; and the phrasing should be complimentary search words (what does 'den' have to do with gardening?), etc. Either things have really changed since my SEO days (which is possible, I don't keep up - too many changes); or they have hired their stoner friends & family who 'went to school' for this doing it, LoL!
                     
                     Yeah, I am hoping for the first option.

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                        Jean Bakulaposted 8 years agoin reply to this

                        Me too. I guess if someone is googling the subject, as long as our hub is about what they are looking for, the oddball niche name won't matter.

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                           kenneth averyposted 8 years agoin reply to this

                           So o-o-o-o, now I am beginning to understand why my traffic has decreased compared to the hubs I have published recently.

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                        CatherineGiordanoposted 8 years agoin reply to this

                        I can see from this thread that "snipping" is the latest tack of HP. Along with niches. I have some excellent hubs that fit a few of the niches, but were not selected so far. I don't know if that is a good thing or a bad thing. I'm not going to worry about it.

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