Update on niche sites and the effect if any it has had on others hubs

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   tlcsposted 8 years ago

   Hi all. Have been away for a while. Can you please update me to the effect that the niche sites have had on your hubpages if any. Look forward to chatting with you all my fellow hubbers!

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      theraggededgeposted 8 years agoin reply to this

      I've had a few moved, and the traffic to those has increased tremendously. I'm happy.

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         tlcsposted 8 years agoin reply to this

         Thats good. Do you get some sort of notice or is it done automatically?

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            Rochelle Frankposted 8 years agoin reply to this

            Yo will get a notice, and yes, mine has increased dramatically in the niche hubs too.

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      Blake Flanneryposted 8 years agoin reply to this

      My hubs that moved have immediately improved in traffic and are holding steady. Many are getting hundreds of views per day. I think the hubpages.com domain is so poisoned that even a new domain is much better. When my hubs were switched from my subdomain to hubpages.com I lost thousands of views per day. That's because my subdomain created some distance from the hubpages.com domain. Unfortunately, I've only had some of my hubs moved to new sites, so most are continuing to be poisoned by the hubpages domain reputation. It's very clear to see what's happening. Get your stuff off of hubpages.com and you have a chance. While you're waiting for your content to be moved you are missing out on potential traffic.

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         tlcsposted 8 years agoin reply to this

         Mmm... interesting. I think I will wait and see whether any of my hubs get moved. Have only just started back on hubpages after a break. We shall see. Thanks for information.

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            Blake Flanneryposted 8 years agoin reply to this

            I took a glance at your hubs and have a little suggestion. Many of your hubs have very broad titles. If you want to get them to be selected for the niche sites, you may want to make them more specific. An example could be changing your hub's "Workplace Safety" title to "Office Workplace Hazards to Check." Here are some other suggestions: I would make the subtitles even more specific but simple: "Electronic Equipment, Ventilation, Furniture, Fire Hazards, etc." Maybe including a survey about what people think is the most dangerous office hazard would make the hub more engaging. You also have two fire extinguisher ads on the page. I would cut that down to one if you want to have that hub selected.

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               tlcsposted 8 years agoin reply to this

               Oh! Ok thanks for that info,will do.

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         Will Apseposted 8 years agoin reply to this

         I don't really want to get involved in these discussions too much at present but I would like to point something out.
         
         Your pages on the niche site are not suffering competition from a plethora of similarly titled pages with similar content, in the way that they were on HP.
         
         I recently saw a big increase in the number of views for one of my pages titled   'Different Types of Crab (with Pictures)'. This page has not been moved to a niche, though it might be when an 'education' niche launches.
         
         The boost came about because a page that Google obviously takes to be similar to mine was moved from HP to Delishably. This was Habee's page: 'A Guide to Crabs, Crabmeat, and Crab Legs'.
         
         If you look at the search below, you can see my page at the top and Habee's page at about number 5.
         
         search for 'types of crab':
         https://www.google.com/search?q=types%2 … &rct=j
         
         My page sprang to the top of that search as soon as Habee's (not really similar) page was moved from HP.
         
         I am guessing Habee got a boost in traffic, too, since Google is not demoting her page anymore, either.
         
         In other words, it might not be that HP is not all that toxic. It might be that it has far too many pages that Google is unable separate and Google will not offer searchers 2 pages from the same site, under any circumstances.
         
         edit: if you look at Habee's page it has 4 iterations of the keyword 'type' including the phrase 'types of crab' in the comment section. These words are all used innocently but it is obviously enough to give Google a problem.

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            NateB11posted 8 years agoin reply to this

            I was noticing the same thing, though I didn't know why it was happening. That is, I noticed some of my Hubs that have remained here on the main site have increased traffic.

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               Jean Bakulaposted 8 years agoin reply to this

               My hubs that moved to niche sites have greatly increased in traffic. I added a new hub and although it did not get on a niche site, it has a lot more views than my hubs normally do. It's also outside of my main niche. So far I'm happy, but wonder when they will make another pass through our hubs that stayed.

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                  tlcsposted 8 years agoin reply to this

                  Interesting..

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            Blake Flanneryposted 8 years agoin reply to this

            Will, I totally agree that there are too many similarly titled hubs on the hubpages domain. That is, I think, the main reason that the hubpages.com domain has not been able to increase traffic despite the extra Squidoo articles added and the moved from subs. I've made the suggestion that Hubpages staff offer authors some redirects to thin out articles that aren't needed here. Many people responded that this isn't going to happen. I agree that it wouldn't be in HP's best interest. It would be better to just do some unfeaturing. By moving hubs to these niche sites, it helps allow for more results from basically the same site to show up for searches. It's a bit of a trick that may eventually get caught and adjusted. The problem that I'm seeing now is all the links back to hubpages.com on these niche sites. It's a bit like telling on yourself an making it obvious. I hope that these niches become more independent over time as content and reputations are built.

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            Marisa Wrightposted 8 years agoin reply to this

            That is a very insightful comment, Will, and food for thought

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               tlcsposted 8 years agoin reply to this

               I agree with you Marisa

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            Solarasposted 8 years agoin reply to this

            I agree with most of what you said, however I read this axiom frequently, yet my experience is different.
            
            "Google will not offer searchers 2 pages from the same site, under any circumstances."
            
            Frequently I find (and perhaps more recently) that Google will deliver 2-3 results from the same site on the first page of results.  Sometimes it is the same article twice! Not to mention that Amazon dominates half of the first page if Google thinks I am searching to buy a product.

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      SheilaMilneposted 8 years agoin reply to this

      I've had no increase in traffic for the two hubs of mine that have been moved to niche sites. They were both less than 2 weeks ago, so maybe in time... At least there has been no decrease.

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         tlcsposted 8 years agoin reply to this

         Thats interesting too.

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   jansharesposted 8 years ago

   Welcome back, tlcs. A few of mine were moved and have not seen hugely significant increases in traffic for the particular hubs. I was told to be patient for the first one to see traffic return. It's a recipe hub and it now gets under 10 views a day. It's been a couple months now. My last one, a newly published poem hub, was moved to a niche about a week after publishing. It is doing awfully, no views in about 4 or 5 days now. Very disappointing. For both, I believe it may be a combination of categorization and wrong niche site. Gotta go, will check back. Overall, I've seen a nice bump for other hubs.

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      tlcsposted 8 years agoin reply to this

      Thanks for the update

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   letstalkabouteducposted 8 years ago

   I'm happy for everyone who's seen a big increase in views on the niche sites.  Unfortunately, I can't say the same. I have 5 on KindredBond and one on ToughNickel with little or no action. I'm wondering what niche sites are getting the views.

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      agilitymachposted 8 years agoin reply to this

      PetHelpful is rocking it.

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   Will Apseposted 8 years ago

   HP has always had poor instincts when it comes to deciding what is spammy and what is not. Usually it only learns when a penalty comes along.
   
   If you don't mind a Simpsons analogy, HP is more Bart than Lisa.
   
   Having said that, they seem to have cut out links from Hubber comments in the niche sites, so now there are only 8 links or so back to HP from every page. Half of those are in the footer so probably do not matter.
   
   I cannot find a site that is analogous to HP in its linking practices (worrying) and for all I know they have made up all these massive link loops on their own.
   
   Gawker is slightly similar, I suppose but seems to throw out far fewer links to its sister sites and also 'no follows' heavily. The first article on Delishably (about pasties) has around  two hundred external links, none of them no followed.
   
   Sigh...
   
   Big ocean and the guy with the oar is probably as daft I am.

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      tlcsposted 8 years agoin reply to this

      Like your point of view

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   theraggededgeposted 8 years ago

   Question: What do you do if one hub out of a series of 16 is moved and the others are (so far) left behind?

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      Solarasposted 8 years agoin reply to this

      Contact Robin, and she can get them put back together again.

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      Jean Bakulaposted 8 years agoin reply to this

      HI the ragged edge,
      I also had two series of hubs, where not all the parts were put on the niche site, so they didn't make sense, or at least it was obvious something was off. I wrote to the team, and they ignored me the first few times. Matt pretended he didn't know what I was talking about. Robin finally moved them so they are all together.
      
      Just be persistent.
      
      Not all the hubs they moved to niche sites are marked on my account page. I find that confusing. Maybe they didn't bother since I had to hound them to make them put my series things back together. Good luck.

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         tlcsposted 8 years agoin reply to this

         What does the mark look like?

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   Will Apseposted 8 years ago

   I probably shouldn't complain. Life is more interesting when it is just one scrape after another. Never really liked Lisa anyway, lol.

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   revolutionbjjposted 8 years ago

   I've had three move so far, and none have yet to see a significant boost in traffic.  Maybe my pages are already reasonably well promoted outside of organic search, though.

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      tlcsposted 8 years agoin reply to this

      Lucky you if they are

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