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Do you feel like hubbers should receive a higher % of $?

  1. melbel profile image96
    melbelposted 11 months ago

    Currently, HubPages earns 40% of ad revenue from hubs, giving users 60% of ad revenue. As a writer, do you feel like you should receive a larger piece of the pie?

    Would this increase your article output?

    I feel like I'm constantly teetering between staying on HubPages or moving to my own site and getting 100%. With low CPMs on HP ad program, AdSense (and my own blog) are starting to sound more appealing.

    1. TIMETRAVELER2 profile image98
      TIMETRAVELER2posted 11 months agoin reply to this

      The problem is not the percentage amount writers here receive.  It is how much the advertisers are willing to pay, which right now, seems to have dropped significantly.

      I switched from the HP earnings plan to Adsense in late April and have had excellent results in terms of earnings.  This may not work for everybody, and for me it may just be because my hubs are seasonal and I'm in season now...BUT...I'm earning significantly more this season than last year.

      It may be worth a try.

      I also think that because HP's main site has been whittled down due to the niche sites that perhaps this is affecting the amount of money advertisers are willing to pay.  Hard to know.

      1. promisem profile image97
        promisemposted 11 months agoin reply to this

        I'm getting much more money from AdSense with the HP program than I have ever received before. I think HP has adjusted the formula.

        I did not do well with AdSense alone. Like you said, it doesn't work for everybody.

    2. Kain 360 profile image96
      Kain 360posted 11 months agoin reply to this

      I think it should be 75% writer and 25% for HubPages. But then again, HubPages is the one who provides the platform and gives people a chance to earn views and money (or just write in general). But you could also argue that the writers are the foundation and pillars that support the entire system & without them websites like HP could not stand alone.

      It seems like writers in culture and society in general are not always respected. There has been many writers who wrote for shows on TV and went on strike because pay was not good. And I've seen comments about how a liberal arts degree is a joke.

      And just look at all the stories in movies, shows, books etc. about how the writer is often struggling because he or she can't get something published and/or he or she is not paid well or respected.

    3. agvulpes profile image89
      agvulpesposted 11 months agoin reply to this

      I have been experimenting with just straight Adsense and the results so far are the same as TimeTraveller2 is reporting !  Much better than the HAP however I have received a warning on my Earning Page that warns that if no income is seen from the HAP after 6 months all earnings may be forfeited !  Anyone else seen that warning ?
      Also just a small point on the Percentages ?  It is NOT on the earnings it is the time that the impressions are displayed ?  Very different !  Here is a link to the Learning Center page which might help : http://hubpages.com/faq/#impressions

      1. TIMETRAVELER2 profile image98
        TIMETRAVELER2posted 11 months agoin reply to this

        I am very surprised to hear this and will contact the team about this warning.  Why would they give you a choice and then warn you like this?  Makes no sense?  I'm sure they get a percentage of earnings either way, and if you're earning more from Adsense, I'd think they'd be happy because this means they'd be earning more, as well.

    4. promisem profile image97
      promisemposted 11 months agoin reply to this

      Google takes 32% of revenue from AdSense, so the 40% to HP is not too out of line for a smaller company.

      My own blogs have much higher CPMs but lower traffic. The 40% going to HP is paying for a staff that provides the marketing and technology necessary to give me more traffic and higher total revenue.

      If HP took less, it would have to cut staff, salaries and any outside SEO consultants they hire to keep the company going. Then we would see lower traffic and lower revenue.

  2. CYong74 profile image98
    CYong74posted 11 months ago

    Personally, I'm quite happy with the current rates. Running your own site involves quite a bit of recurring costs, on top of which there is constant work to maintain or improve SEO.

    HP requires you to work on SEO too, if you want your hubs to rank. But it does provide a platform that is already high up there. In fact, this boost is what most aspiring bloggers are dying for, but would not be able to achieve without months of very hard and constant work. Most end up not coming anywhere near where HP is.

    I would also share that whatever I get from my own hosted sites is often nowhere near the rates I get from HP. For these reasons, I'm quite happy with what HP is giving.

  3. earner profile image86
    earnerposted 11 months ago

    10% of the 40% that HP get paid used to be paid to any member that promoted any other Hub.

    e.g. I could pick one of your hubs at random and think "that's good/well written" - and grab a referral link to it.  If I posted that, then I'd get 10% of impressions for an amount of time.  It wasn't long, but it encouraged members to share the hubs of other people.

    I wish that were back again....

  4. psycheskinner profile image82
    psycheskinnerposted 11 months ago

    Not know what their costs are and how the impact income, i have no way to judge what the best split is.  I will say Hubpages having very expert staff that have constantly restructured the site and negotiated directly with search engines and other sites is the only reason Hubpages still exists at all.  So obviously those people need their salaried paid.

    1. Marisa Wright profile image98
      Marisa Wrightposted 11 months agoin reply to this

      +1

      HubPages has overheads which have to be paid.   They also need to make a profit, else why bother being in business? 

      I think people who imagine HubPages is getting rich off this site are fooling themselves.  I can remember the excitement back in early 2011 when HubPages were at the point of breaking even - a big achievement for a relatively new internet company.  Considering they lost about 75% of their traffic (and therefore income) a few months later, it's amazing they are still in business - and if I compare my earnings now and my earnings then, I wonder how they are making a profit at all, even with their current share.  Especially since they now have all these extra editors and moderators.

      1. Kain 360 profile image96
        Kain 360posted 11 months agoin reply to this

        Good point. I'm grateful HubPages is still around.

 
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