I'm updating my poetry hubs and need some advice. In the past, I've used a multi-textual format for my poems - a hybrid form of textuality. I don't think this fits anymore with HubPages split categories and different domains. I would publish a poem but also include brief information on the theme or topic of the poem in a different capsule as well as background information on why I wrote the poem (personal reflection). Or, I would write about the theme or topic as the primary basis for the hub and use the poem to enhance it (like an image enhances a topic).
What I'm thinking of doing is removing the capsules with information on the theme or topic and also the background information from my poetry hubs, leaving only the poem with images (usually one or two).
I've looked at the poetry that has been accepted for Letterpile and I think this is the way to go.
What do you think? My other thought was to remove them completely to my personal website where a hybrid form of textuality generates more traffic, especially if I discuss more technical aspects about the writing style and genre (but I don't use a revenue stream on my personal site, which is one of the downsides to moving).
@Tina -- I have to agree. And may I add, that I am behind you 100%. On my poetry pieces, I, like a blind sheep, have followed HP protocol and gave a brief summary, but YOUR idea, I know, will get you more response and with your permission, when I post my poetry, may I use your idea? And Happy New Year.
@ Kenneth - happy to share ideas I'm sure, I'm not the first to use these formats, I'm just trying to work out (with some anxiety) which one will work best with HubPages and it's different network sites moving forward. And from what I've examined from those selected for poetry in LetterPile, simplicity appears to work best.
Bear in mind that the reason you created that hybrid style was to attract search engine traffic.
Google doesn't like short articles with very little content. It doesn't make exceptions for poetry. Removing your additional material may offer a better experience for readers (though I'm not sure I understand how, if the extra material is at the end of the poem and therefore not intruding), but if it's going to lose you search traffic, fewer people will see your poem.
That wouldn't work for me.
Are you saying that you've submitted your hybrid Hubs to LetterPile and they're being rejected?
Or that you're writing brand new Hubs which aren't being transferred? The Letterpile editors must be pretty busy with the transferring of "how to" Hubs to Hobbylark, so they may be a bit slow processing their queues right now. It may just be a case of having some patience - I've known some Hubs to take three or four weeks to get moved.
Thanks for your thoughts and feedback.
These articles are old hubs that have been sitting and waiting for me to decide what to do with them. Some are older than four or five years. They initially did okay for poems but then traffic fell off away a couple of years ago. In most cases, the poem comes first with hybrid material afterwards (or the side, which now needs to be changed). In one case, I have the material first with the poem last as the focus was more on the topic than the poem. I may split this into two hubs (the topic needs an update with new relevant information).
In all cases, except the one where the poem compliments the topic, I added the hybrid material to achieve more ticks for the 'article goals'. With SEO in mind though, I think trimming is more appropriate as otherwise the text might just be seen as filler, even though the page will have a lower word count. I'm also worried the background to writing the poem might be seen more as a personal blog entry as it's written in first person. Perhaps there's another way to present this information so that it doesn't come across as personal. I might have a look at some literary sites and see how they add the background information of the writer etc to their pages for poetry submissions.
I submitted one restructured poem today to Letterpile. I'm not worried about a quick response, quite patient. After trimming the fat and submitting it, I'm a little more confident that removing the additional material for Letterpile was the best action for this poem at the very least. But we'll see what feedback I receive in due course. And I'll treat this as a test submission to see how it goes and monitor traffic.
I would love to add a sound file of the poem being read aloud to the page. But adding sound files isn't a feature at Hubpages (I do this with poems on my website). I think instead, I may look at creating a video with the poem being read out loud for Letterpile.
Again, thanks for the response, I appreciate your thoughts.
Are you worried about the "purely personal" and "filler" problems because of how Google might react or because of what a HubPages editor might think? If it's the editor, then the usual HubPages rules do not apply, so there's no problem with personal content. In fact, there's an entire section on LetterPile called Personal Memoirs.
When HubPages created the niche sites initially, they selected the Hubs based on traffic, nothing else. All the highest-traffic Hubs were moved (about 20% of HubPages.com in total, which accounted for 80% of all HubPages' traffic). So, if your old Hubs weren't included in the initial tranche, it was purely because of lack of traffic, not because of any problems with structure.
@Tinsky -- a note to confirm that you and I are talking about the same thing, me, putting a more-separate summary-type note in at top of my poems to say everything but their real meaning--for most of mine are abstract/prose and I have to use metaphors to a fault to glean out the meanings behind the real meanings. I hope that I am making sense.
But do email me to confirm that what I've said is like you talked about.
Ken, if you are going to include a separate note explaining about your poem, then my advice to you is - move it to the END of the poem. Do not put it at the beginning.
The reader has arrived on the page looking forward to reading a poem. They will be disappointed because they don't see a poem. Better to let them read the poem first, then you can explain it to them.
@Marisa -- 1:03 am., Jan. 6, this was very helpful. And I shall take your advice when I get into publishing my brand of poetry. Did you get an email from me?
@Marisa -- no, thank you. I feel much better now. And while I'm at it, I find that (me) following your pattern of (not) going into a lot of small talk, really works. And the advice about where to put the summary or text content of poetry is going to be very helpful. Thanks again. Do have a Safe and Happy New Year. If you should ever need me for anything and I feel that I can help . . . you know where to find me.
by ajcor6 years ago
the following hubs are in the main my poems but it seems that if some action doesn't follow by 25th March they will be unpublished because they don't fit the current mould!...a poem is not like text it takes a concept...
by Lena Kovadlo4 years ago
One of my friends who is a poet had created a Hub Pages account in hopes to share her poetry with others. She published a number of poetry hubs that included her poetry and appropriate images but they became unpublished...
by Sherri6 years ago
The question of whether poetry Hubs should have 400-word minimums came up in this thread a few minutes ago:http://hubpages.com/forum/topic/70203#post1528809I've been puzzling about what to do with poetry Hubs I've found...
by annasmom2 years ago
I have some of my poetry up and the scores are consistently in the high fifties to low sixties.....Anyone with an interest in poetry and some spare time, can you look at them? I am a published poet and author, but...
by LarasMama7 years ago
Just wondering if anyone is getting much traffic to their poetry/creative writing hubs? If so why? Is it because of added research content, lots of poems on one page, etc?Just wondering if I should add to mine or just...
by Victoria Lynn6 years ago
I've submitted a few, and they start our in the 40's. I've noticed other poems of other hubbbers having similar scores, so I wondered.
Copyright © 2018 HubPages Inc. and respective owners.
Other product and company names shown may be trademarks of their respective owners.
HubPages® is a registered Service Mark of HubPages, Inc.
HubPages and Hubbers (authors) may earn revenue on this page based on affiliate relationships and advertisements with partners including Amazon, Google, and others.