ARE YOU SERIOUS?

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   paradigmsearchposted 6 years ago

   @HP Sorry about the "45". The rest of it? I stand by it. Please respond. If no solution, just let me know.

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   paradigmsearchposted 6 years ago

   Original email was sent last week.

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   paradigmsearchposted 6 years ago

   I meant to include your email in the op, somehow it was not included. Would you like for me to try again?

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      paradigmsearchposted 6 years agoin reply to this

      Actually serious, not sarcasm or anything else. I'm trying here.

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   paradigmsearchposted 6 years ago

   Clarification.
   
   What initiated this thread was your last email.

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   paradigmsearchposted 6 years ago

   <snipped> lucky on failure to post <snipped>.
   
   Just want to get it fixed or get info  so can figure out what to do next.

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   paradigmsearchposted 6 years ago

   https://hubpages.com/community/forum/14 … ost2909333

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      paradigmsearchposted 6 years agoin reply to this

      I realy do need to clean that up, what I could do now..

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   paradigmsearchposted 6 years ago

   Back to the point:
   
   Am #1 on front G page, but getting boxed, how fix?

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   paradigmsearchposted 6 years ago

   How do I get your attention?
   
   Number fkg one on G. You know the problem.  How fix?

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   paradigmsearchposted 6 years ago

   Am now 4, was top for a year, not kidding.

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    paradigmsearchposted 6 years ago

    AND WE JUST DISCOVERED BLACK MIRROR?

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       paradigmsearchposted 6 years agoin reply to this

       Not really. Day One. Gold
       
       Can you fix it? Do I need to play?

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    paradigmsearchposted 6 years ago

    Well, something happened, #4

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    paradigmsearchposted 6 years ago

    Let's see how that's do.

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    paradigmsearchposted 6 years ago

    Time to copy/paste die.

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    paradigmsearchposted 6 years ago

    <snipped>

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    paradigmsearchposted 6 years ago

    Words are not enough.

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    paradigmsearchposted 6 years ago

    Would you like to see the email?

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    paradigmsearchposted 6 years ago

    Unless given otherwise, will post it all tomorrow.

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    paradigmsearchposted 6 years ago

    Give me a solution or give me a decline.

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    paradigmsearchposted 6 years ago

    My apologies for yesterday. Was extremely upset. Still am. Going to get this sorted out today.
    
    ARE YOU SERIOUS?
    
    I need acknowledgement of the G problem. Being #1 on the front page and no apparent awareness from HP of being boxed is unsettling to say the least.
    
    Instead you have grammar issues?
    
    FINE. BUT LET'S GET THE MAIN PROBLEM FIXED!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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    paradigmsearchposted 6 years ago

    Just checked. Still #1. Still boxed. We are still getting robbed. TALK TO ME!

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    paradigmsearchposted 6 years ago

    Nothing to lose, going public. Do a search for " how to make kale tea".
    
    Next are the emails. I am sorry, but you are <snipped>.

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    paradigmsearchposted 6 years ago

    Send me an awareness so I don't have to do this.

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    paradigmsearchposted 6 years ago

    If no response by 5 pm, will probably shutdown the relevant page this weekend.

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    paradigmsearchposted 6 years ago

    Who'd have ever thought a page would be deleted because it was #1 on Google?

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    paradigmsearchposted 6 years ago

    Brainless emails coming up.

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       greenmindposted 6 years agoin reply to this

       Hi I know this will sound dumb but why is the fact that it's boxed a problem?

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       greenmindposted 6 years agoin reply to this

       Ah is it because readers can see the process without clicking on the page? Must be.

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          paradigmsearchposted 6 years agoin reply to this

          Exactly right.

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    paradigmsearchposted 6 years ago

    Maybe I'll do the emails tomorrow, maybe not. Fed Up, No Point. And to think I had 90+ hubs here at one time.

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    paradigmsearchposted 6 years ago

    I could understand if HP said they can't do anything, but to come up with a boilerplate response is proof they don't read their emails.

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    paradigmsearchposted 6 years ago

    And I strongly suspect they are going to screw up the #1 position, but in this case I guess who cares? Due to HP's lack of response, I'm probably going to delete the page anyway.

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    paradigmsearchposted 6 years ago

    Again, sorry about this thread. Will wait to see what HP does with this hub before deciding whether to give up and delete/transfer.

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    incomeguruposted 6 years ago

    Your article is featured in Google snippet. It shows the relevancy of your article and may help drive traffic to your page. Don't delete it.

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       paradigmsearchposted 6 years agoin reply to this

       The problem is that Google displays the entire recipe, thus causing the searcher to not bother clicking on the hub. Thus, Google gets all the ad revenue and HP and I get none.

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          theraggededgeposted 6 years agoin reply to this

          I'm pretty sure that it won't put people off clicking. However, you could try changing the order of the capsules to see if the snippet changes. You might also try changing whatever sub-heading you are using on the actual recipe capsule. Play around, move capsules, add more text. See if you can manipulate it.

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             paradigmsearchposted 6 years agoin reply to this

             Thanks, but I have dropped this issue; am just so tired. It's in HP's hands now.

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                theraggededgeposted 6 years agoin reply to this

                It's not though, is it? HP can't do much about it. You, however, can control what Google 'sees'. Rewrite the problematic area. See if it drops you down the results by one or two places.

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                   paradigmsearchposted 6 years agoin reply to this

                   It's in the HP editor's hands now. Am abandoning this thread.

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                      Marketing Meritposted 6 years agoin reply to this

                      Ok, not sure if you will read this, but you appear to be vexing your frustration in the wrong direction. You need to play Google at their own game. Lengthen the instructions so that they don't all show in the snippet. For example, provide the different lengths of time depending upon microwave wattage.
                      
                      Also, I would be inclined to make the title more compelling. So, not only how to make kale tea, but add something along the lines of, "and uncover 7 secret health benefits," or whatever fits. You need to create intrigue to get people to click through.
                      
                      I understand why you are upset, but only you can turn this to your advantage.
                      
                      Good luck!

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    incomeguruposted 6 years ago

    
    
    I can now feel your plight. It's a sorry case.

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    WryLiltposted 6 years ago

    The Google answer box guarantees you number 1 - this is a good thing. I specifically create a lot of content in an attempt to get it in the answer box.
    
    Snippets are MANUALLY done, so anything you change in your content will NOT change the box until it's manually reviewed again by a Google employee. That could take months. Hubpages has NO influence on that, so cannot help.
    
    The one thing you can change? The title. Change it to include something that people need to click to read more about AFTER reading the recipe. Maybe the health warning. Maybe an idea for flavouring or any other info that adds further interest onto the tea recipe.

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       Jean Harrisposted 6 years agoin reply to this

       If being in the box makes you this mad I'm not sure you'll be able to handle what's coming next from Google. Full voice with no search results where Google's assistance tells people your recipe and doesn't even tell them about your site. Voice, it's coming.

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          Jean Harrisposted 6 years agoin reply to this

          I see all of the major SEO websites are offering guides on how to get your site more voice friendly. My take - why would you make it easier for voice to give your content away without any chance of a visitor? I see it from the other side, it's probably time to ban Google voice from your content completely.
          
          Google has no content but they plan to give away everyone else's by voice. Time will tell if webmasters take a stand against what is essentially content theft.

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       paradigmsearchposted 6 years agoin reply to this

       I have implemented your suggestion. If the HP editor modifications don't knock it out of the #1 spot, am home free; if that hub does get knocked out of the top spot...

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    paradigmsearchposted 6 years ago

    I know I said I'd abandoned this thread; but being a member of the human species (though some might dispute that), I couldn't help but check back. Everyone who has posted here since, is absolutely right.
    
    The new article posting location is pretty much ready to publish; am kind of loathe to use the excellent suggestions here when I can put them on the new location to help circumvent duplication problems. Despite my emails and this thread, HP still seems completely unaware of the Google issue.
    
    HP remains on the standard editor grammar/photo/subtitle/capsule path and any deviation from same appears highly unlikely.
    
    The smart thing for me to do is to let HP proceed.
    
    If HP happens to also implement the excellent suggestions made in this thread (which indeed might actually abort Google's shenanigans) and somehow keep the hub at #1, all is well and the hub stays.
    
    If HP's actions prohibits or destroys the hub's #1 ranking, all the better for me when I move it. Wouldn't be the first time.

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       WryLiltposted 6 years agoin reply to this

       You're the first person I've ever seen get upset about being in the Google answer box. Most people would love that chance.
       
       As I said, it's done manually by Google employees. Hubpages has no influence on what shows in answer boxes.

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          NateB11posted 6 years agoin reply to this

          Whenever I get in that top box I get very celebratory and my traffic increases. Yeah, I've never known anyone unhappy about getting that top spot.

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          lobobrandonposted 6 years agoin reply to this

          It's not done manually. Just thought I'd chip in.

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             paradigmsearchposted 6 years agoin reply to this

             I sure hope I didn't waste that new title on what might be a soon-to-be dead hub. That title would have been perfect for its reincarnation on my website.

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    paradigmsearchposted 6 years ago

    Meanwhile, a positive note. HP Ad Program still doing good.

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    paradigmsearchposted 6 years ago

    Unfortunately, when I got put in that top box, my traffic immediately and totally dropped dead for the reasons previously mentioned. Because of the dead traffic and my trying to fix it, HP is now blaming the hub and sending the editors after it. The last time HP sent editors after my hubs, I lost 12 of them in one shot; all 12 of which were network site hubs totaling a 100 views a day before HP struck. That 100 extra views a day are now gone forever. All of this has been previously explained; tired of my having to keep reexplaining it, causing me too much stress; time for me to depart thread again.
    
    Don't ever edit, update, or otherwise try to fix your hubs. It's what attracts HP's attention. HP won't make any attempt to ascertain the hub's current traffic, e.g., those last 12 hubs;  or bother to check to see if Google already loves the hub (this latest one ). HP will just blame the hub and usually destroy the SEO aspects in the process.

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    paradigmsearchposted 6 years ago

    Update.
    
    New title gets hub thrown out of the zero-traffic box at top of page (dropped HP a note awhile back and they know why that happened). Am now in second place. Considering what is now in the top box, got a good shot at now getting traffic. If not, so what? Wan't getting traffic before anyway.
    
    Stay tuned. Adventure not yet concluded. If necessary, other plans afoot.

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    paradigmsearchposted 6 years ago

    Well, now. Back in first place. And that stupid box is gone altogether. I wonder if whoever that was noticed their traffic had dropped dead and bailed.
    
    Google still showing my entire recipe. I've gotten a slight increase in traffic, but nothing that anywhere near approaches satisfactory. I'll give it a week. If still not getting traffic that I consider satisfactory, I will change the title again. And this time I will throw subtlety out the window.
    
    Edit: Forget what I said about a week. I'll probably do it  a lot sooner, especially what with re-indexing taking over 10 days.

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