@HP Sorry about the "45". The rest of it? I stand by it. Please respond. If no solution, just let me know.
I meant to include your email in the op, somehow it was not included. Would you like for me to try again?
What initiated this thread was your last email.
<snipped> lucky on failure to post <snipped>.
Just want to get it fixed or get info so can figure out what to do next.
Back to the point:
Am #1 on front G page, but getting boxed, how fix?
How do I get your attention?
Number fkg one on G. You know the problem. How fix?
My apologies for yesterday. Was extremely upset. Still am. Going to get this sorted out today.
ARE YOU SERIOUS?
I need acknowledgement of the G problem. Being #1 on the front page and no apparent awareness from HP of being boxed is unsettling to say the least.
Instead you have grammar issues?
FINE. BUT LET'S GET THE MAIN PROBLEM FIXED!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Just checked. Still #1. Still boxed. We are still getting robbed. TALK TO ME!
Nothing to lose, going public. Do a search for " how to make kale tea".
Next are the emails. I am sorry, but you are <snipped>.
If no response by 5 pm, will probably shutdown the relevant page this weekend.
Who'd have ever thought a page would be deleted because it was #1 on Google?
Hi I know this will sound dumb but why is the fact that it's boxed a problem?
Ah is it because readers can see the process without clicking on the page? Must be.
Maybe I'll do the emails tomorrow, maybe not. Fed Up, No Point. And to think I had 90+ hubs here at one time.
I could understand if HP said they can't do anything, but to come up with a boilerplate response is proof they don't read their emails.
And I strongly suspect they are going to screw up the #1 position, but in this case I guess who cares? Due to HP's lack of response, I'm probably going to delete the page anyway.
Again, sorry about this thread. Will wait to see what HP does with this hub before deciding whether to give up and delete/transfer.
Your article is featured in Google snippet. It shows the relevancy of your article and may help drive traffic to your page. Don't delete it.
The problem is that Google displays the entire recipe, thus causing the searcher to not bother clicking on the hub. Thus, Google gets all the ad revenue and HP and I get none.
I'm pretty sure that it won't put people off clicking. However, you could try changing the order of the capsules to see if the snippet changes. You might also try changing whatever sub-heading you are using on the actual recipe capsule. Play around, move capsules, add more text. See if you can manipulate it.
Thanks, but I have dropped this issue; am just so tired. It's in HP's hands now.
It's not though, is it? HP can't do much about it. You, however, can control what Google 'sees'. Rewrite the problematic area. See if it drops you down the results by one or two places.
It's in the HP editor's hands now. Am abandoning this thread.
Ok, not sure if you will read this, but you appear to be vexing your frustration in the wrong direction. You need to play Google at their own game. Lengthen the instructions so that they don't all show in the snippet. For example, provide the different lengths of time depending upon microwave wattage.
Also, I would be inclined to make the title more compelling. So, not only how to make kale tea, but add something along the lines of, "and uncover 7 secret health benefits," or whatever fits. You need to create intrigue to get people to click through.
I understand why you are upset, but only you can turn this to your advantage.
The Google answer box guarantees you number 1 - this is a good thing. I specifically create a lot of content in an attempt to get it in the answer box.
Snippets are MANUALLY done, so anything you change in your content will NOT change the box until it's manually reviewed again by a Google employee. That could take months. Hubpages has NO influence on that, so cannot help.
The one thing you can change? The title. Change it to include something that people need to click to read more about AFTER reading the recipe. Maybe the health warning. Maybe an idea for flavouring or any other info that adds further interest onto the tea recipe.
If being in the box makes you this mad I'm not sure you'll be able to handle what's coming next from Google. Full voice with no search results where Google's assistance tells people your recipe and doesn't even tell them about your site. Voice, it's coming.
I see all of the major SEO websites are offering guides on how to get your site more voice friendly. My take - why would you make it easier for voice to give your content away without any chance of a visitor? I see it from the other side, it's probably time to ban Google voice from your content completely.
Google has no content but they plan to give away everyone else's by voice. Time will tell if webmasters take a stand against what is essentially content theft.
I have implemented your suggestion. If the HP editor modifications don't knock it out of the #1 spot, am home free; if that hub does get knocked out of the top spot...
I know I said I'd abandoned this thread; but being a member of the human species (though some might dispute that), I couldn't help but check back. Everyone who has posted here since, is absolutely right.
The new article posting location is pretty much ready to publish; am kind of loathe to use the excellent suggestions here when I can put them on the new location to help circumvent duplication problems. Despite my emails and this thread, HP still seems completely unaware of the Google issue.
HP remains on the standard editor grammar/photo/subtitle/capsule path and any deviation from same appears highly unlikely.
The smart thing for me to do is to let HP proceed.
If HP happens to also implement the excellent suggestions made in this thread (which indeed might actually abort Google's shenanigans) and somehow keep the hub at #1, all is well and the hub stays.
If HP's actions prohibits or destroys the hub's #1 ranking, all the better for me when I move it. Wouldn't be the first time.
You're the first person I've ever seen get upset about being in the Google answer box. Most people would love that chance.
As I said, it's done manually by Google employees. Hubpages has no influence on what shows in answer boxes.
Whenever I get in that top box I get very celebratory and my traffic increases. Yeah, I've never known anyone unhappy about getting that top spot.
It's not done manually. Just thought I'd chip in.
Meanwhile, a positive note. HP Ad Program still doing good.
Unfortunately, when I got put in that top box, my traffic immediately and totally dropped dead for the reasons previously mentioned. Because of the dead traffic and my trying to fix it, HP is now blaming the hub and sending the editors after it. The last time HP sent editors after my hubs, I lost 12 of them in one shot; all 12 of which were network site hubs totaling a 100 views a day before HP struck. That 100 extra views a day are now gone forever. All of this has been previously explained; tired of my having to keep reexplaining it, causing me too much stress; time for me to depart thread again.
Don't ever edit, update, or otherwise try to fix your hubs. It's what attracts HP's attention. HP won't make any attempt to ascertain the hub's current traffic, e.g., those last 12 hubs; or bother to check to see if Google already loves the hub (this latest one ). HP will just blame the hub and usually destroy the SEO aspects in the process.
New title gets hub thrown out of the zero-traffic box at top of page (dropped HP a note awhile back and they know why that happened). Am now in second place. Considering what is now in the top box, got a good shot at now getting traffic. If not, so what? Wan't getting traffic before anyway.
Stay tuned. Adventure not yet concluded. If necessary, other plans afoot.
Well, now. Back in first place. And that stupid box is gone altogether. I wonder if whoever that was noticed their traffic had dropped dead and bailed.
Google still showing my entire recipe. I've gotten a slight increase in traffic, but nothing that anywhere near approaches satisfactory. I'll give it a week. If still not getting traffic that I consider satisfactory, I will change the title again. And this time I will throw subtlety out the window.
Edit: Forget what I said about a week. I'll probably do it a lot sooner, especially what with re-indexing taking over 10 days.
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