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   Kenna McHughposted 2 months ago

   With the transition of moving niche articles to Discover, has anyone started a new article or edited an old one? I need clarification about what is happening with HubPages. I need help to focus on writing or editing my articles. Is anyone else experiencing this?

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      bravewarriorposted 2 months agoin reply to this

      I haven't done anything. I might, MIGHT take a look at editing articles that are languishing on Hubpages.com.

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         Kenna McHughposted 2 months agoin reply to this

         Shauna, I hear you. Editing articles on Hubpages.com might get them over to Discover. I am hesitant to write anything new right now.

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            bravewarriorposted 2 months agoin reply to this

            Same here, Kenna. I've not been inspired to write anything new since Maven, then TAG - especially TAG took over. However, when we were on the HP format, my articles were quite successful, so I may revisit what's left there and give them a tweak. I do wish comments would be reinstated, though. The number and quality of comments were a good indication of how well the pieces were received and they also increased ranking in SERPs because of the community interaction and the increased word count that resulted (long-form content.)

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               Kenna McHughposted 2 months agoin reply to this

               Some of my articles benefited from the comment feature. I hope it returns.

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                  bravewarriorposted 2 months agoin reply to this

                  +1000!

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               TheShadowSpecterposted 2 months agoin reply to this

               Yeah, I think the comments section for articles have been down for at least two years, if not longer, here on the HubPages writing platform.  That is way too long for the comments sections to be missing from the articles.

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         emmanuelesoposted 2 months agoin reply to this

         Please can you look at my article and help me in formatting and editing

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            theraggededgeposted 2 months agoin reply to this

            Hello,
            
            You need to start a new thread.
            
            Also, there are no articles to review on your profile.

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            bravewarriorposted 2 months agoin reply to this

            You need to provide a link and post this in the forum that asks for feedback on how to improve the article (link to which would have been provided to you by way of (rejection) email from HubPages. You're in the wrong forum for that.
            
            Even before that, click on the Help button on the top right of this page and go through the learning center. All of your questions will be answered there. You have resources at the ready. Don't ask for our help until you've read the guidelines. Good writers help themselves. They research before they put pen to paper. Do your due diligence. Then ask yourself if you really want to be/can be a writer that provides accurate, proven information, entertainment, viable, credible answers to questions, and valuable content.  Writing isn't easy. Gaining an audience isn't easy. Making money at writing isn't easy. If you're looking for an immediate result, you're in the wrong space. You may want to look to the content mills and pray you pass their assessment tests.

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               Miebakagh57posted 2 months agoin reply to this

               But, Emmanuel, don't post the link to your article here in this forum.                                        Start a new thread that be independent from this discusion.

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               emmanuelesoposted 2 months agoin reply to this

               Thanks alot,I will do just that

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      Gregory DeVictorposted 2 months agoin reply to this

      About three weeks ago, I did major edits on all of my HobbyLark articles. That is enough for the time being too.
      
      So far, the editors haven't changed anything that I changed.

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         Kenna McHughposted 2 months agoin reply to this

         Gregory, I hear you. I hope there was an upswing in numbers.

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            Gregory DeVictorposted 2 months agoin reply to this

            Eventually, there was an increase in traffic.
            
            What is not helping here are the absolutely horrific CPMs. I never ever remember the CPMs being as consistently low as they have been. Really disgusting.

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      Miebakagh57posted 2 months agoin reply to this

      Few months ago before the news letter story, I edited the titles of all my articles.                                   But Kenna, can you motivate me and the others here to write new articles, and edit the old stuffs? The thing now is that HubPages, under  TAG no longer inspire her writers.

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         Kenna McHughposted 2 months agoin reply to this

         In times like these, motivation comes from ourselves after figuring out the best move.

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            Miebakagh57posted 2 months agoin reply to this

            Okay, Kenna.

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      WriterJanisposted 2 months agoin reply to this

      To my knowledge I haven't had anything moved yet. I'm still updating articles and working on a couple of new ones.

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         Kenna McHughposted 2 months agoin reply to this

         Janis, good for you!

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            WriterJanisposted 2 months agoin reply to this

            Thanks Kenna!

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               Kenna McHughposted 2 months agoin reply to this

               

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         TheShadowSpecterposted 2 months agoin reply to this

         I've been doing the same thing, so I don't understand why they would want to move my Soapboxie articles over to Discover HubPages.  I know that it has nothing to do with the quality of them or the lack thereof, because they had been enthusiastically making minor changes to them now and then.  The editors were always polite with me in doing so.

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         TheShadowSpecterposted 2 months agoin reply to this

         WriterJanis?  I looked at your Hubpages account and found that none of your articles were posted on the Soapboxie niche site.  Therefore, that could explain why none of your niche-site articles have been moved to Discover HubPages yet.  It appears that HubPages is only doing this with articles on the Soapboxie niche site.

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            WriterJanisposted 2 months agoin reply to this

            Actually FeltMagnet as well and I think I read on another thread of another site moving articles. It seems like it's only a matter of time before all of the niche sites move at least some of their articles.

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      TheShadowSpecterposted 2 months agoin reply to this

      HubPages moved six of my articles from the Soapboxie niche site to Discover HubPages without notifying me about it or even as so much telling me why they did it.  It's downright outrageous, because one of those same articles of mine had been recently upgraded to the SoapBoxie niche site and they had invested a lot of editing into another one as though they really liked it and now that one has been moved to Discover Hubpages with no previous notice to me nor e-mail of any kind.
      
      They haven't moved any other articles of mine to Discover Hubpages from other niche sites, but I'm feeling uneasy about it possibly happening without warning.  I've e-mailed their HubPages Team to find out why they're doing this.

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         Kenna McHughposted 2 months agoin reply to this

         Jason, it's happening to other writers as as well. Hopefully, they'll email you back with an explanation.

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         WriterJanisposted 2 months agoin reply to this

         I hope you get a reply Jason.

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      ChitrangadaSharanposted 2 months agoin reply to this

      No motivation for writing and publishing anything new on HP.
      Though, I keep editing the old ones.

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         Kenna McHughposted 2 months agoin reply to this

         Chitrangada, I hear you! Motivating myself with low CPMs and uncertainty about HP's future is hard.

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      Kenna McHughposted 2 months agoin reply to this

      Well, HP/TAG moved one of my Discover articles to PetHelpful. HP/TAG might keep specific niches while sending others to Discover.

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         WriterJanisposted 2 months agoin reply to this

         Good for you Kenna!

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            Kenna McHughposted 2 months agoin reply to this

            

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      CYong74posted 2 months agoin reply to this

      I just took a look at Discover without logging in.
      
      The first article I clicked on is a blatant backlinking article. With outbound links to two commercial entities.
      
      The second one is perfect in writing. But it reeks of AI writing, beginning with the inane "Introduction" "Conclusion" headers.
      
      The third one is very possibly stolen text from somewhere, on top of having a tiny, uncredited topmost pic. There are superscripts in the text but the corresponding footnotes are missing.
      
      All three were published by bio-less people who just joined.
      
      Seems like writing for Discover will be a hell lot easier than writing for the now disgraced niche sites.

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         Miebakagh57posted 2 months agoin reply to this

         Terrible.

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            TheShadowSpecterposted 8 weeks agoin reply to this

            When I first became a Hubber back in 2016, my hub score was in the nineties.  For a long time, it was in the eighties.  Now for the very first time, it has dipped down into the seventies.  At least six of my articles were posted on the SoapBoxie niche site.  I'm wondering if the removal of the SoapBoxie niche site is what is to blame for my hub score going from the mid-to-upper eighties down to 79.   I can't figure that one out.

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               Miebakagh57posted 8 weeks agoin reply to this

               Same here. But I was with a score of 86 in 2012. Then it plument down to 32.                                       Then last year exaltly November, it sailed up to 82, and start nose-diving again, and remained steadily between 66 and 68.

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      Kierstin Gunsbergposted 7 weeks agoin reply to this

      I used to be a regular contributor but haven't really touched HubPages in any capacity in about a year. Where HP was once a huge source of revenue for me, it just isn't anymore, and I have a "real" job I have to focus on now.
      
      I think that most people consume content differently now and written content isn't as relevant as it used to be. I just logged in randomly on a work break to see what was happening here and was interested to see the changes re: Discover. I hope it has a positive impact on traffic and ad revenue! Only time will tell

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         PaulGoodman67posted 7 weeks agoin reply to this

         My experience is similar. I was publishing several articles/week for a long time but with the revenue shrinking so low, I found that I could no longer justify putting in so much time. Eventually, I just stopped writing new stuff altogether. I still do some occasional basic editing, checking Amazon links work, etc.
         
         I'm willing to start up again but there'd need to be a change in HP's fortunes for that to happen!

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       Grip55posted 6 weeks agoin reply to this

       I'm new and I am writing new articles. One made Google search and I am really excited. And I have only been here for two days.

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          Miebakagh57posted 6 weeks agoin reply to this

          Greg, you're still welcomed here. More and good success ever.                                     Have you visit the Learning Centre yet?                                    Click 'Help' on your 'feed' setting, and you're good to go. Good success to you.

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          Kenna McHughposted 6 weeks agoin reply to this

          Thanks, great, welcome.

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   Rupert Taylorposted 2 months ago

   I'm still writing and editing but my parents did always say I was the daft one.
   
   I doubt there will be much clarification, because I sense the TAG folks themselves don't know what they are doing. Just making it up as they go along. I hope they prove me wrong.
   
   Getting motivated in the current chaos isn't easy.

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      Kenna McHughposted 2 months agoin reply to this

      Rupert, I agree. The current chaos does not make it easy.

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   Glenn Stokposted 2 months ago

   Yes, Kenna. I just published a couple of articles in the past week, but not on HubPages. I decided not to add anything new to HubPages until it’s clear what happens with it. So I’m publishing new content on my own website were I still earn from Google AdSense.
   
   However, I’ll still continue to maintain old content on HubPages to keep it fresh.

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      Kenna McHughposted 2 months agoin reply to this

      Glenn, that makes sense. I am doing the same. My site and YouTube channel are making more money than HubPages.

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         Glenn Stokposted 2 months agoin reply to this

         That's great to hear, Kenna! It's wonderful that you have those alternatives.

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            Kenna McHughposted 2 months agoin reply to this

            Same for you, Glenn. We have to have many sources and diversify.

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   Dean Traylorposted 2 months ago

   Working on a story but taking my time. Hard to be motivated with views way down.

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      Kenna McHughposted 2 months agoin reply to this

      I hear you, Dean. Views are down, and so are CPMs. You have quite a few articles, impressive!

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   abwilliamsposted 2 months ago

   Hi Kenna, I am actually spending some time this weekend, updating my articles. I have noticed that as I put in the time improving an article, a better scored article only causes the next article to be scored lower, and the next, and the next... I feel as if I am in a losing battle!
   I, too, would love to have a comments section back. I could better resist the political forum.
   

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      Miebakagh57posted 2 months agoin reply to this

      Just be there, ab...you're good up there the political forum.

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      Kenna McHughposted 2 months agoin reply to this

      Angie, It seems that most writers want the comments section back. I can see how it'd help your commentary on politics.

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   Eric Cauncaposted 2 months ago

   Lack of motivation to edit or write again.

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      Kenna McHughposted 2 months agoin reply to this

      I hear you!

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   viryaboposted 2 months ago

   I haven’t written any new article in a couple of years or so. There is no motivation whatsoever, especially with not knowing EXACTLY what’s going on.
   
   A couple of weeks ago, I started to edit many of my Hub titles, trying to see if that will help. I did discover a slight uptick in views and a few cents increase overall. Still sustaining it somehow.
   
   But writing new articles? Definitely not. At least, not for now.

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      Kenna McHughposted 2 months agoin reply to this

      I notice an uptick, too, when I edit my articles.

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   Drew Agravanteposted 2 months ago

   I've been editing old articles and writing new ones. So far, the freshly edited articles are getting a tiny boost. As for, the new articles, it's getting around 10-100 views/day. One thing for sure though: getting traffic in my niche is tough nowadays with all Reddit posts ranking 1st in google search.

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      Kenna McHughposted 2 months agoin reply to this

      Drew, thanks for your comment. Reddit and the like rank high because comments create fresh content, right?

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         bravewarriorposted 2 months agoin reply to this

         Correct, Kenna!

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            Kenna McHughposted 2 months agoin reply to this

            

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   Eileen Hughesposted 2 months ago

   Editing old and added a couple and deleted about 10

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      Kenna McHughposted 2 months agoin reply to this

      Eileen, thanks for the input. I ask: Why would you delete 10?

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    Rupert Taylorposted 2 months ago

    Jason. I doubt you'll get a response that has meaningful content, and likely not a response at all. By shutting down Soapboxie without notifying writers in any way (I had 120 plus articles there) they have sent a clear signal about how they value their contributors i.e. not at all.
    
    Any apology at this stage, even of a grovelling kind, would be pointless. The damage has been done. The relationship between writers and HubPages, such as it was, is now irretrievable broken.

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       bravewarriorposted 2 months agoin reply to this

       Amen, Rupert!

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       TheShadowSpecterposted 2 months agoin reply to this

       A gentleman named Matt referred me to this discussion thread for answers.>>> https://hubpages.com/community/forum/36 … r-hubpages
       
       On that same discussion thread, Lisa-Winter made it sound like this would be the beginning of the end of all niche sites on the HubPages writing platform.  She and her colleagues apparently believe that it's going to improve our potential to attract more traffic and higher earnings.  However, I'm having strong reservations about this decision of theirs.

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    Genna Eastposted 2 months ago

    Hi Kenna...
    
    Yes.  But most of my publications are scooped up by LetterPile.  And I have to agree with others in that when I complete the edits, the points go down -- including my Profile points. (My score used to be in the low 90's, but when I went on Hiatus and returned later to unpublish a number of hubs that are now published elsewhere, my score dropped to the low 80's which I full understand.)  I think I shall wait to see what happens with the Discover move before publishing anything new on HP.

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       Kenna McHughposted 2 months agoin reply to this

       Genna,
       
       Thanks for letting me know. Even now, the numbers overall look pretty bad.

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          Gregory DeVictorposted 2 months agoin reply to this

          Kenna, I've never ever seen CPMs as bad as they are right now. Do you see much the same? It's very disturbing and disgusting.

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             Kenna McHughposted 2 months agoin reply to this

             Gregory, the CPMs are horrific!

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    Drew Agravanteposted 2 months ago

    You're right on that one Kenna. How I missed those comments. Aside from that, I've also read about Google's new deal with Reddit. Google plans to use Reddit data to train their AIs. In exchange, money and prolly, more visibility. It's no wonder it's taking the search top spots. The question is how long will their corporate honeymoon last.

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       bravewarriorposted 2 months agoin reply to this

       Thanks for that info, Drew. I Googled "Google and Reddit's partnership" and found this straight from the horse's mouth:
       
       https://blog.google/inside-google/compa … rtnership/

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          bravewarriorposted 2 months agoin reply to this

          Here's another interesting blog posted by Google regarding the changes they've made to the search experience:
          
          https://blog.google/products/search/goo … spectives/

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       Kenna McHughposted 2 months agoin reply to this

       That's interesting, Drew. I didn't know that, and it sure gives Reddit credibility.

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    Rupert Taylorposted 2 months ago

    Emmanuel - three things.
    
    1. Please don't hijack an existing and unrelated thread with a request such as this. Start your own thread.
    2. We can't help without a link to the article in question and I can't find it on your bio page.
    3. There is abundant formatting information in the Learning Center. Click on "Help" top right and follow links.

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       bravewarriorposted 2 months agoin reply to this

       That's because he has no articles, Rupert. His bio indicates he could have something to offer, but he needs to read the guidelines and learn how to post in order for it to count.  I remember when I first joined HP in 2011. I actually posted long before I ever asked for help from the community. In fact, I had responses from the community (much to my amazement) by way of comments and subsequent followers.(Remember those???) That set my creativity and motivation on fire.
       
       Those were the days... of promise and creative expression.
       
       https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JnxTT7XXMPA

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          emmanuelesoposted 2 months agoin reply to this

          https://discover.hubpages.com/religion- … nic-master

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       emmanuelesoposted 2 months agoin reply to this

       Thanks for the reply,am grateful

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    Eileen Hughesposted 2 months ago

    Kenna mchugh. I deleted them because I kept editing them and could not get them featured. I still have 200 articles and 4 of them it doesn't matter what I do still not featured. But will keep trying. I had one moved to the felt.. one

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       Kenna McHughposted 2 months agoin reply to this

       Eileen,
       
       I hear you. Perhaps you can have a friend read your articles and give feedback.

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    EricDockettposted 7 weeks ago

    I've written in four main niches over the years. Three of them are toast, and not worth contributing to at this point.
    
    That includes my main niche for the past decade, an account that regularly hit $100 a day only a few years ago. It now struggles to hit one dollar per day. Thanks, TAG!
    
    I gave up on that one a while ago, but I'd love to get back to it if conditions change. If not, I will probably remove those 250+ articles and post them. . . somewhere?
    
    I do have one niche that is doing okay, though it, too, has dropped. At least it is still worth writing about, for now.
    
    My greater fear is that HP as a whole is about to go down. It doesn't look promising, and this move to Discover reeks of desperation. I hope I am wrong.
    
    This is the consequence of years of mismanagement and ignoring problems. Or, maybe of just having a different agenda.
    
    Whatever. The only thing for it is to strap in and go along for the ride. I guess.

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       TheShadowSpecterposted 7 weeks agoin reply to this

       In case HubPages does go down in the near future, it's probably a good idea for everyone to back up copies of their articles so that they don't lose them forever.

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          bravewarriorposted 7 weeks agoin reply to this

          All of my articles are written in Word. I then copy/paste them into the various modules of HP. I have an external hard drive that backs up my laptop daily.

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    Titiaposted 7 weeks ago

    I haven't written a new hub in ages and don't think I will in the future.
    I don't update them either. I once did and couldn't get it in the niche site it was in anymore. That's because English is not my native language and everytime some editor pops up who thinks it should be worded differently from what I wrote. Even after it had been edited already and even with the help of grammarly, so eventually I gave up.
    With the articles I have now I still reach payout every other month and that's fine by me. I truly miss the comments though. I'll just wait and see where the ship strands.

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       TheShadowSpecterposted 7 weeks agoin reply to this

       The comments section to the articles made a world of a difference.  I think HubPages should at least bring them back so that our traffic on our articles will go up.

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          bravewarriorposted 7 weeks agoin reply to this

          That's one of the key points I brought up in my forum post called "A Different Perspective on the Move to Discover to Raise Ranking".

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          Solarasposted 7 weeks agoin reply to this

          I think they won't.  I think the comments were disabled in anticipation of Rojo, which appears to have been a failure.
          
          Strange to say, since we have topical forums that could have been expanded and made public for Google to appreciate.  Why reinvent the wheel when we have one rolling over here, and could have made it bigger with collaboration with management.

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             TheShadowSpecterposted 7 weeks agoin reply to this

             I remember what happened to Infobarrel.  All of a sudden everyone lost everything that they had published on it after it went belly up a couple of years ago.  Luckily, I had only published one post in a comments section of someone else's article there.  If HubPages meets the same fate, I stand to lose a lot unless I find a way to start backing up my articles.  My initial fifteen articles are saved on Word.  However, my subsequent articles are derived from fragments of notes of mine and the likes.  I really hope that HubPages is not getting ready to go belly up, although the eventual elimination of their niche sites comes across to me as somewhat suspicious in nature.

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                theraggededgeposted 7 weeks agoin reply to this

                If you have enough storage on your pc or cloud service, just open the article, right click, save as. And it will save the whole web page as is. Author View is best.
                
                I've just done it with my sites as I'm dismantling them and republishing on a different platform. Plus I always periodically save my HP pages.

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                   eugbugposted 7 weeks agoin reply to this

                   The only problem with saving the author view is that the  "source" hyperlink on photos no longer work when one clicks on it. So that could be a problem when rebuilding articles elsewhere and captioning photos. I only discovered this last year, so then I additionally started saving the network site versions which show those details directly under photos without clicking. Also I started saving PDFs of articles, but the problem with those is that photos often get split between pages. There's no page break as such in HTML as far as I understand it, like in a Word document.

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                      Kenna McHughposted 7 weeks agoin reply to this

                      Save your articles is the only proactive task writers can do now. It's so disheartening.

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                      theraggededgeposted 7 weeks agoin reply to this

                      How about the Edit screen - will that save?
                      
                      Okay, I just checked the Author Vew and the images come down with the page. Yes, you'd have to save them from that page but you can do it anytime. If they aren't hyperlinked then you'd have to locate them again or use different ones.

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          Miebakagh57posted 7 weeks agoin reply to this

          The comment system or button is gone, like the wind.                                      Hubpages has hear us enough. She couldn't return it. Because she's under tag/maven.

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    Rupert Taylorposted 7 weeks ago

    Two weeks ago I had a new article moved from Discover to Soapboxie only to see that niche site closed down a few days later.
    
    Today, a new article of mine has been moved from Discover to Owlcation. Look out Owlcation you are about to get the chop.

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       chef-de-jourposted 7 weeks agoin reply to this

       Oh ecky thump. I've got over 400 articles on Owlcation built up over 12 years - seems now they're heading for the cesspit! Please someone tell me this is all one big mistake, a nightmare.
       
       Call International Rescue.

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          Miebakagh57posted 7 weeks agoin reply to this

          lol...!

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    Rupert Taylorposted 7 weeks ago

    Andrew - I have no inside information that they are going to kill Owlcation. I'm just making an unsupported connection to what happened to Soapboxie.
    
    Like you, the bulk of my work is on Owlcation and I don't want it rubbing shoulders with barely literate spam and other drivel on Discover.

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       PaulGoodman67posted 7 weeks agoin reply to this

       My feeling is that they will move the lower-value niches first. When I say "lower value," I mean monetary not quality. Some topics are worth more to advertisers than others.
       
       If that's the case, then Owlcation will likely be moved ahead of, say, ToughNickel.

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    Eileen Hughesposted 7 weeks ago

    Yes I lost a lot of info barrel articles but I asked the CEO and he said as they no longer on the net I could put them safely on the net without any problems

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    Rupert Taylorposted 7 weeks ago

    Silly old habit of mine is to write everything on Word and then import it (or, is it export? - never can figure that out) to HubPages. Further, keep copies of Word article on an external hard drive.
    
    Belt and braces folks. Belt and braces.

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       theraggededgeposted 7 weeks agoin reply to this

       Yes, I always have the text saved offline. But we're talking about complete copies of the web pages with images and other stuff. Plus subsequent edits made by HP or the author.

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          Kenna McHughposted 7 weeks agoin reply to this

          Yes. I am looking for a better option to back up my HP articles. It's worth the investment.

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             theraggededgeposted 7 weeks agoin reply to this

             I find that having the article with comments and questions included is pretty useful.

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                bravewarriorposted 7 weeks agoin reply to this

                Bev, that would certainly make it worthwhile to backup the actual posted article rather than rely on the Word version.

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                TheShadowSpecterposted 7 weeks agoin reply to this

                I'm thinking about using archive.is webpage capture, because someone told me that it was a good way to back up my articles in case their writing sites vanish from the Internet forever.  However, I don't know if there would be a way that I could do so without each article of mine appearing in two places on the Internet at the same time.  In other words, I want to be able to back up my articles from HubPages without them also being accessible to the public from a second cybernetic location while they still remain in existence on my HubPages channel.  Then if the HubPages writing site goes belly up, I would want a way to duplicate them from archive.is to another writing site where I could get paid for them.

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                   bravewarriorposted 7 weeks agoin reply to this

                   Maybe take a screen shot and save it to a dedicated folder on your computer. Just a thought....

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                   theraggededgeposted 7 weeks agoin reply to this

                   Just right click on the article and save it as a complete web page.
                   
                   It'll save a folder and a browser file. I save mine onto an external drive and DropBox. I have them all, right back to Squidoo.

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                      TheShadowSpecterposted 7 weeks agoin reply to this

                      I just tried it, and it worked.  So I can save it to a flash drive if I wish to do so; and if HubPages goes belly up and vanishes from the Internet altogether, I could still pull it up from my flash drive so long as I have it saved there?  If that's the case, then I guess I better get busy saving my articles then.  Thank you for the info.

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    theraggededgeposted 7 weeks ago

    I just noticed... with the majority of my articles now on Discover, my hubber score has dropped like a stone
    
    My traffic has increased a little bit.

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       TheShadowSpecterposted 7 weeks agoin reply to this

       Same here.

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    Miebakagh57posted 7 weeks ago

    All the challenge makes sense to me.

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    Venkatachari Mposted 7 weeks ago

    I am editing my articles, now and then. Just today, I edited one Tribute article and changed the grouping to Family matters. It was grouped under Health topics previously by mistake. It already got reverted to Discover.

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