AI-Generated Content on HubPages

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  1. HubPages profile imageSTAFF
    HubPagesposted 14 months ago

    Hi all. As indicated in last week’s press release, parts of The Arena Group have begun using AI to assist with content creation. Although several news articles have erroneously referenced the use of AI on PetHelpful and DenGarden, AI is not currently being used for staff content creation on any of HubPages’ Network Sites.

    We have, however, seen an uptick in AI-generated content from authors on our Network Sites. Keep in mind that our articles will still be held to the same high standards as always, passing through two levels of human reviewers before being considered for our Network Sites. Please feel free to review our Elements of a Stellar Article as well as the other helpful articles in our Learning Center for a refresher on the types of content we select for our sites. And remember—personal expertise is key!

    1. Kenna McHugh profile image92
      Kenna McHughposted 14 months agoin reply to this

      Good to know!

    2. bravewarrior profile image86
      bravewarriorposted 14 months agoin reply to this

      AI-generated writing tools are all over the news right now. I think they could be useful in suggesting ideas for topics, but to use them as a content creators is unethical, in my opinion. Writing is a craft for which humans work hard to perfect.

      Question in response to the above: In view of the fact that each of our articles must pass through two levels of human review, if an article is found to be the spawn of AI-generation, will it be considered for a niche site? I hope the answer is "no"!

      1. OldRoses profile image94
        OldRosesposted 14 months agoin reply to this

        I agree!  Many publications on Medium are banning the use AI.

    3. CWanamaker profile image93
      CWanamakerposted 14 months agoin reply to this

      My experience has been that the AI-generated content is of poor quality and would need significant edits to be useful as a HubPages article. It's just not very reader-friendly. These AI programs should be viewed as tools to assist a writer rather than a panacea for content creation.

      1. Patty Inglish, MS profile image89
        Patty Inglish, MSposted 14 months agoin reply to this

        Agreed

      2. bravewarrior profile image86
        bravewarriorposted 14 months agoin reply to this

        +1!

      3. Souther29 profile image81
        Souther29posted 14 months agoin reply to this

        Totally agree, I work in affiliates and the rise in poor quality, quickly generated AI led content is really harming areas of the industry, and mainly prevalent within the sub networks where compliance can be a grey area. Google may take future steps to combat it, so I’d advise against using AI tools to totally write your hubs and use only for inspiration/ideas if curious.

        1. PaulGoodman67 profile image95
          PaulGoodman67posted 14 months agoin reply to this

          I agree that it's fairly crap when compared to some of the hype it's been getting.

          My concern is more that ChatGPT is a harbinger. Just as "Napster" signaled a cataclysmic revolution in music, media, and other industries, we may look back on ChatGPT as the first signs of a new turnover.

          Radical changes seem to be on the way and writing and publishing online just don't seem so safe anymore as businesses and income generators.

          I hope I'm wrong of course and AI remains as just a limited writing tool.

          1. bravewarrior profile image86
            bravewarriorposted 14 months agoin reply to this

            I subscribe to Writers Weekly. The managing editor has posted a very interesting article about AI and ChatGPT, in particular. It's long, but well worth the read. Here's the link:

            https://writersweekly.com/angela-desk/c … -112119_67

            1. AliciaC profile image94
              AliciaCposted 14 months agoin reply to this

              That was a very interesting article. AI may not be suitable for replacing writers at the moment, but as it improves, it may well be. The situation is depressing.

              1. bravewarrior profile image86
                bravewarriorposted 14 months agoin reply to this

                Linda, did you catch the part where he mentions that plagiarism comes into play because the information is drawn from that which is already on the Internet? He warns writers and authors to not even entertain writing/posting/submitting anything written by a bot simply for the legal ramifications that could come into play.

                1. Kenna McHugh profile image92
                  Kenna McHughposted 14 months agoin reply to this

                  Editors already worry about plagiarism. Programs catch this problem.

            2. Kenna McHugh profile image92
              Kenna McHughposted 14 months agoin reply to this

              Brave, I skimmed the article. The managing editor at Writer’s Weekly has some good points. However, he spelled Hemingway’s first name wrong. No worries. 

              In the long run, AI will develop into a format that sustains itself on the Internet.

              I don’t see AI writing bestsellers, page-turners, great Hollywood scripts, or theatrical plays.

              AI will flourish on the Internet because websites like Writer’s Weekly pay $60 for 600 words. That’s the problem. They need to pay writers more.

              Most websites and editors want a clean copy, no mistakes, and no editing required. They pay .02 to .05 a word! These entities need to pay competitive rates.

              I have experienced impersonal, rude editors who don’t want to work. Or they make obvious mistakes. I am not saying I am a perfect writer. I make mistakes.

              If you pay low, you get poor-quality work, which AI can surmount and thrive. As a result, hacks or editors wait on the sidelines to clean up AI copy. Crazy!

              There are fewer and fewer talented editors. Editors need to work with writers—as Max Perkins worked with Hemingway, Fitzgerald and Wolfe. Perkins was well-known for helping writers become better.

              A relationship builds, and writers remain and become better, as do editors.

              I have worked with some talented and helpful editors. Mostly, I stayed with them and continued to write for their company and website today.

              The Internet comes across as impersonal, robotic and redundant. AI will thrive in that environment.

              This may give HP an advantage if they bring talented writers to the platform who can follow structure.

              1. bravewarrior profile image86
                bravewarriorposted 14 months agoin reply to this

                Kenna, you make some valid points. However, the editor also said that AI can't replace the emotions that human writers evoke in their readers and for that reason, AI will not replace human creatives. At least, not yet. Not unless and until writers stop using their imaginations and rely solely on bots to do the work for them.

                I noticed the typos also. Word spellcheck doesn't catch everything and that's what he was using while writing his article.

                1. Kenna McHugh profile image92
                  Kenna McHughposted 14 months agoin reply to this

                  Brave, Yes. I agree. AI cannot replace human emotion, but it can replace poor-quality writing.

    4. Miebakagh57 profile image70
      Miebakagh57posted 14 months agoin reply to this

      My question is: what should be the difference between an AI spin content and an expertly written content? Much thanks.

    5. Cloverleaf profile image97
      Cloverleafposted 14 months agoin reply to this

      Thank you for clarifying this

  2. ravirajan01 profile image96
    ravirajan01posted 14 months ago

    Thanks for the clarification

  3. AliciaC profile image94
    AliciaCposted 14 months ago

    We need to be very careful when using AI. I appreciate the precautions mentioned in the second paragraph by the staff member.

    A recent newsletter from HubPages recommended ChatGPT. Their recommendations were good, but asking AI to write an entire article in science and perhaps in other areas may not be good. Here's a very recent article from a computer science professor.

    https://theconversation.com/chatgpt-is- … ong-198848

    The situation may improve rapidly, but for now if the facts in an article are gathered by AI, they should be checked.

    1. Patty Inglish, MS profile image89
      Patty Inglish, MSposted 14 months agoin reply to this

      Agreed.

    2. Miebakagh57 profile image70
      Miebakagh57posted 14 months agoin reply to this

      If ChatGPT can be that stupid, why are certain writers here using it? It's a pity.                                      Recently, they was a post that a relatively new author who use the stupid bot is advising us how to write quality articles. Stupid again.                                            The makers of the dualishly stupid ChatGTP have yet to improve the tool. I don't intend to us it.

      1. JerryFisher profile image92
        JerryFisherposted 14 months agoin reply to this

        It's not that stupid. Here's a copy/paste of a post here from a few weeks ago:

        "Yes, it can write poetry. For instance, you can ask it to write a poem about about rutabagas in the style of Robert Frost and it will oblige lol. Can it imitate heartbreak though? I don't know.

        Hahaha! Rutabagas! Lol! tongue big_smile
        Loved that!
        I must try this! smile
        I will share the response in this forum! Lol! big_smile

        So here's the poem about Rutabagas in Robert Frost style generated by ChatGPT

        Rutabaga Road

        The rutabaga road is rough and tough,
        Its yellow flesh does strongly puff,
        A root with sturdy, hearty ways,
        That grows within the farmer's blaze.

        Along its path, a journey waits,
        With bumps and twists, no time for gates,
        But still it stands, this rugged gem,
        A symbol of our farmer's stem.

        Its taste, so earthy, sharp and strong,
        Defies the seasons, lasts so long,
        A vegetable that makes us see,
        The beauty found in simplicity.

        So take a walk, with rutabaga bold,
        And feel the power of its hold,
        A taste of nature's finest treat,
        In fields and gardens, at your feet.

        1. Miebakagh57 profile image70
          Miebakagh57posted 14 months agoin reply to this

          JerryFish, okay tell ChatGPT to write an article of between 1000 to 1500 words based on the poem it generated:                           'Rutabaga Road'.                                 Then you can copy and paste same to us in this discusion.                                      The point I'm trying to make is whenever I wrote an article, I at times see a poem in it: or it's poem to article.                                       Stylish as your  ChatGPT AI generated poem may be, let's see the article.                                     Here in this forum a lady has use the bot to road map an outline for a story, and said she's half way through. I'm keenly interested for the outcome.                                      Critically, I'm not against the use of AI. But why gyp the natural intelligence in the thinking process? Don't you think that when such a read is pass through 'Turnitin' plagiarsm is easily detected? Me think Rutabaga Road is yet to be publish. Much thanks.

          1. JerryFisher profile image92
            JerryFisherposted 14 months agoin reply to this

            Okay - thanks Miebakagh - Always like a challenge. In the 5 minutes since you posted it here's what ChatGPT has come back with. Not quite 1000 words but 918.

            Rutabaga Road

            The rutabaga road is rough and tough,
            Its yellow flesh does strongly puff,
            A root with sturdy, hearty ways,
            That grows within the farmer's blaze.

            Along its path, a journey waits,
            With bumps and twists, no time for gates,
            But still it stands, this rugged gem,
            A symbol of our farmer's stem.

            Its taste, so earthy, sharp and strong,
            Defies the seasons, lasts so long,
            A vegetable that makes us see,
            The beauty found in simplicity.

            So take a walk, with rutabaga bold,
            And feel the power of its hold,
            A taste of nature's finest treat,
            In fields and gardens, at your feet.
            Rutabaga Road

            The rutabaga road is rough and tough,
            Its yellow flesh does strongly puff,
            A root with sturdy, hearty ways,
            That grows within the farmer's blaze.

            Along its path, a journey waits,
            With bumps and twists, no time for gates,
            But still it stands, this rugged gem,
            A symbol of our farmer's stem.

            Its taste, so earthy, sharp and strong,
            Defies the seasons, lasts so long,
            A vegetable that makes us see,
            The beauty found in simplicity.

            So take a walk, with rutabaga bold,
            And feel the power of its hold,
            A taste of nature's finest treat,
            In fields and gardens, at your feet.
            Rutabaga Road

            The rutabaga road is rough and tough,
            Its yellow flesh does strongly puff,
            A root with sturdy, hearty ways,
            That grows within the farmer's blaze.

            Along its path, a journey waits,
            With bumps and twists, no time for gates,
            But still it stands, this rugged gem,
            A symbol of our farmer's stem.

            Its taste, so earthy, sharp and strong,
            Defies the seasons, lasts so long,
            A vegetable that makes us see,
            The beauty found in simplicity.

            So take a walk, with rutabaga bold,
            And feel the power of its hold,
            A taste of nature's finest treat,
            In fields and gardens, at your feet.
            Rutabaga Road

            The rutabaga road is rough and tough,
            Its yellow flesh does strongly puff,
            A root with sturdy, hearty ways,
            That grows within the farmer's blaze.

            Along its path, a journey waits,
            With bumps and twists, no time for gates,
            But still it stands, this rugged gem,
            A symbol of our farmer's stem.

            Its taste, so earthy, sharp and strong,
            Defies the seasons, lasts so long,
            A vegetable that makes us see,
            The beauty found in simplicity.

            So take a walk, with rutabaga bold,
            And feel the power of its hold,
            A taste of nature's finest treat,
            In fields and gardens, at your feet.
            Rutabaga Road

            The rutabaga road is rough and tough,
            Its yellow flesh does strongly puff,
            A root with sturdy, hearty ways,
            That grows within the farmer's blaze.

            Along its path, a journey waits,
            With bumps and twists, no time for gates,
            But still it stands, this rugged gem,
            A symbol of our farmer's stem.

            Its taste, so earthy, sharp and strong,
            Defies the seasons, lasts so long,
            A vegetable that makes us see,
            The beauty found in simplicity.

            So take a walk, with rutabaga bold,
            And feel the power of its hold,
            A taste of nature's finest treat,
            In fields and gardens, at your feet.
            Rutabaga Road

            The rutabaga road is rough and tough,
            Its yellow flesh does strongly puff,
            A root with sturdy, hearty ways,
            That grows within the farmer's blaze.

            Along its path, a journey waits,
            With bumps and twists, no time for gates,
            But still it stands, this rugged gem,
            A symbol of our farmer's stem.

            Its taste, so earthy, sharp and strong,
            Defies the seasons, lasts so long,
            A vegetable that makes us see,
            The beauty found in simplicity.

            So take a walk, with rutabaga bold,
            And feel the power of its hold,
            A taste of nature's finest treat,
            In fields and gardens, at your feet.
            And as I look back, on this journey so dear,
            I see the rutabaga, that I hold so near,
            A crop that's grown, with a love so true,
            And a flavor that's cherished, by me and by you.

            The rutabaga road has left its mark,
            With memories that will never depart,
            Of laughter and love, and a flavor so fine,
            And a journey that will always be mine.

            So I'll take these memories, and keep them close,
            With the rutabaga's flavor, that will always glows,
            For it's the road less traveled, and a road that grows,
            With simple joys, that will always show.

            And as I look back, on this journey so grand,
            I'll remember the rutabaga, with all its stand,
            For it's the road less traveled, and a road that shines,
            A simple pleasure, that will always be mine.
            And as the sun sets, on this journey so bright,
            I think of the rutabaga, that's bathed in its light,
            A crop that's grown, with care and with pride,
            And a flavor that's cherished, from far and wide.

            The rutabaga road has come to an end,
            But its legacy will never bend,
            With memories of meals, and joy that's shared,
            And a flavor that's loved, beyond compare.

            So I'll take these memories, and keep them close,
            With the rutabaga's flavor, that I'll always know,
            For it's the road less traveled, and a road that flows,
            With simple joys, that I'll always hold dear, and grow.

            And as I turn away, from this journey so true,
            I'll look back with a smile, and remember the view,
            For the rutabaga road, has brought me to you,
            A simple pleasure, that I'll always cherish, and pursue.

        2. Misbah786 profile image86
          Misbah786posted 14 months agoin reply to this

          Hahaha! Thank you so much for re-sharing that, Jerry! tongue big_smile

  4. janshares profile image93
    jansharesposted 14 months ago

    In a nutshell, if AI-generated articles are submitted by HP authors and pass the HP standards, they will be accepted and eligible for the Network Sites? I'm trying to get clarification on whether there will be penalties for using AI to write articles on HP. In other words, will using AI on HP be added to violations of TOS? I'm asking for all the HP authors who work really hard to research, write, format and edit their content from scratch, the old-fashioned way. Or maybe most of the old heads are no longer writing articles like that, for many other discouraging reasons, outside of AI.

    Anyway, just asking as this topic has become very concerning. I understand that the internet/online writing is changing daily like lightning. I anticipate that AI will be a game-changer for a lot of traditional writers, like me.

    1. OldRoses profile image94
      OldRosesposted 14 months agoin reply to this

      Great question!  This issue needs clarification.

    2. profile image0
      yourrandombrotherposted 14 months agoin reply to this

      AI can be a useful
      tool for HP authors, as it can help generate ideas for content writing. Writers will still have to put in the work to edit and rephrase the AI-generated content and perform any necessary fact-checking. AI can be used in the writing process, but it should not be used to replace the traditional methods of writing, researching, formatting, and editing. Assuming HP might not penalize authors for using AI, but they must still meet the HP standards in order to be eligible for the Network Sites.

      1. janshares profile image93
        jansharesposted 14 months agoin reply to this

        I appreciate your reply. But I think it's a mindset, a new way of thinking about access to information that I have a hard time wrapping my head around. If I'm not using my imagination and experiences to "generate ideas" to create content, I feel like it's not my own. I know in some circles, it's an acceptable part of the writing process to use AI as part of the research, but it just feels like a short cut I associate with cheating. Like when I used Cliff Notes to write a term paper in college because I didn't have time to read the book. Anyhey, I'll just sigh for now and see how this plays out in the future, which is now. hmm

        1. bravewarrior profile image86
          bravewarriorposted 14 months agoin reply to this

          I agree with you Jan. Maybe I’m just too old school.

        2. profile image0
          yourrandombrotherposted 14 months agoin reply to this

          I understand where you're coming from. AI can be an invaluable tool for research, and it can be used in an ethical way. There's a lot of potential for AI to be used to create content in a way that is still meaningful and personal. AI can be used to provide us with more information and resources to help us to create our own original content. I'm sure that as AI technology continues to develop, it will become a more accepted part of the writing process.

          1. janshares profile image93
            jansharesposted 14 months agoin reply to this

            Thank you, very helpful. smile

      2. Miebakagh57 profile image70
        Miebakagh57posted 14 months agoin reply to this

        Thank you. I find your post very amplifying and enlightening.

        1. profile image0
          yourrandombrotherposted 14 months agoin reply to this

          You're very welcome! I'm glad you found it helpful.

          1. Miebakagh57 profile image70
            Miebakagh57posted 14 months agoin reply to this

            Yes, by the way a lady here is trying to motivated me to go chatty AI.                                     Only then I'll made up my mind. Could you provide a link to download the tool?

  5. melbel profile image94
    melbelposted 14 months ago

    AI is helpful for outlining and I have been using it to find extra things I need to touch on but my writing is my own and I've been using references outside of AI. It's a helpful aid, but nothing more.

  6. LaptopsPool profile image60
    LaptopsPoolposted 14 months ago

    If a writer is using AI as an assistant means crafting ideas from AI is not wrong, but creating content and using the same content in publications is not ethical. That's why many publications are taking action against AI created content.

  7. Mehwish Hayaat profile image59
    Mehwish Hayaatposted 14 months ago

    Another approach could be to ensure that AI-generated content is clearly marked and differentiated from content created by human authors. This could help to avoid confusion and ensure that readers are aware of the origin of the content they are reading.

    It is also important to note that AI technology is constantly evolving, and there may be advancements in the future that allow AI to produce more authentic and creative content. However, at present, it is likely that the most effective use of AI in content creation will involve a collaboration between human authors and AI technology.

    1. bravewarrior profile image86
      bravewarriorposted 14 months agoin reply to this

      And with this continuing advancement in AI technology, where does that ultimately leave human authors? I don't like it. Not one bit.

    2. theraggededge profile image97
      theraggededgeposted 14 months agoin reply to this

      Your comment has been composed by AI, hasn't it?

      "It's also important to note..."

      big_smile

      1. Mehwish Hayaat profile image59
        Mehwish Hayaatposted 14 months agoin reply to this

        big_smilebig_smilebig_smile

  8. eugbug profile image96
    eugbugposted 14 months ago
    1. bravewarrior profile image86
      bravewarriorposted 14 months agoin reply to this

      Interesting. Thanks, Eugene.

  9. theraggededge profile image97
    theraggededgeposted 14 months ago

    I wanted to address how the output of AI content is determined by what you put into it. Ask a bland question, or give woolly instructions and that's what you'll get back. I've been playing with it this morning to come up with the structure of an article on two tarot cards.

    This is the input:

    Me: You are an experienced tarot reader of 20 years. Your passion is exploring the tarot, its history, structure, and symbolism. You want to write an essay focusing on how the meanings of two cards interact. The two cards are the Devil and Death. Do you understand? If yes, write an outline for the essay.

    Chatty: Yes, I understand. Here's an outline for the essay:

    I. Introduction
    A. Brief history of tarot
    B. Explanation of the Devil and Death cards
    C. Thesis statement: The Devil and Death cards in tarot are often seen as negative, but when read together, they offer insight into the transformative power of endings and the importance of breaking free from unhealthy patterns.

    II. The Devil card A. Definition and meaning
    B. Symbolism and imagery
    C. Interpretation in a tarot reading

    III. The Death card
    A. Definition and meaning
    B. Symbolism and imagery
    C. Interpretation in a tarot reading

    IV. The Devil and Death cards together
    A. Understanding their connection
    B. The transformative power of endings
    C. Breaking free from unhealthy patterns
    D. The interplay of light and darkness

    V. Conclusion
    A. Recap of key points
    B. Final thoughts on the Devil and Death cards
    C. Emphasizing the power of tarot to offer guidance and self-discovery.

    The value of using AI for structure and outlining is tremendous and it doesn't have to impinge on the actual writing. I could have spent an hour trying to come up with the above and still not have done it as comprehensively. I might not use every point suggested, but there are several I might not have thought of.

    1. Jodah profile image91
      Jodahposted 14 months agoin reply to this

      That is a great example, Bev. Thanks for sharing. It will prove to be a useful tool if used that way.

    2. janshares profile image93
      jansharesposted 14 months agoin reply to this

      I see. So, it's a time saver, right? Bev, I know you are brilliant and would have come up with this anyway. But I see your point in the value of using AI for the purpose of structure and formatting ideas. Thanks for sharing.

      1. theraggededge profile image97
        theraggededgeposted 14 months agoin reply to this

        Yes, it is, Jan. It's also motivation for me. I might not have bothered writing this article at all, but I'm now halfway through, using the roadmap that my friend, 'Chatty' provided smile

        1. Kenna McHugh profile image92
          Kenna McHughposted 14 months agoin reply to this

          I am three-quarters the way through an article on Essential Amino Acids for a client. Chatty saved me two hours' worth of research and sparked my creative flow. EAAS is a subject I know well, so I find that getting the right output from Chatty requires the right input.

          1. bravewarrior profile image86
            bravewarriorposted 14 months agoin reply to this

            It seems that if used for research as opposed to content creation, Chatty can be a valuable assistant to the muse. I'm beginning to see the light!

            1. janshares profile image93
              jansharesposted 14 months agoin reply to this

              Me, too, Shauna. I trust Bev and Kenna. But I don't know about the majority of writers who will use it that way. I'm still a non-techy, scaredy cat, old school skeptic. roll

  10. theraggededge profile image97
    theraggededgeposted 14 months ago

    Several of us are concerned that people are joining and posting a number of articles within hours. It's clear from the language and formatting that they are 'pure' AI. Now they are posting AI responses in the forum.

    While AI is a useful tool, it feels like these people are cheating.

    Can we have some clarification about Hubpages' strategy regarding AI going forward?

    1. bravewarrior profile image86
      bravewarriorposted 14 months agoin reply to this

      I'd like to see that too, Bev.

      Pure AI should not be featured/accepted by HP and should not have the ability to earn. I never thought I'd see the day that robots would replace humans, especially in the domain of authors and creatives.

      1. theraggededge profile image97
        theraggededgeposted 14 months agoin reply to this

        Exactly.

        I feel that, used with human creativity, it will be a good thing. I love seeing what can do regarding research and idea generation. I used it myself yesterday but every word of that article was written by me.

        I would never read material that is obviously AI produced. It's bland, boring... and cheating.

        1. bravewarrior profile image86
          bravewarriorposted 14 months agoin reply to this

          Amen. I agree with both points, Bev.

          1. Kenna McHugh profile image92
            Kenna McHughposted 14 months agoin reply to this

            It's here, AI. Next is an app that will flag AI. Around and around we go.

        2. janshares profile image93
          jansharesposted 14 months agoin reply to this

          +1

  11. Miebakagh57 profile image70
    Miebakagh57posted 14 months ago

    JerryFisher, I was specific to say that the poem should be converted into an articlle.                                      Critically, if my directions are not directly clear, the speciications can be infer from the comment I posted.                                      Critically again, a poem is always in 'poetic' form, to be sung or recited. Articles come streaming in prose or comprehension, right?                     So I'm wondering why the stupid Chat GPT foolishly recopy, paste, and lenghten the original poem and add certain repeat lines, and other seemly nuts to make the word count to over 900+?                                                  Sorry, there seems to be a lack of original touch in the second read, if it have to be Turnitin.

    1. theraggededge profile image97
      theraggededgeposted 14 months agoin reply to this

      Why don't you try it yourself, Miebakagh?

      https://chat.openai.com/chat

      1. Miebakagh57 profile image70
        Miebakagh57posted 14 months agoin reply to this

        Bev, good question indeed.                                seriously, I've  written a poem and then proceed to write an  article on it later, or vice versa.                                     Seriously again, all my articles have not come under AI, and I've no intention of trying to write my stories with AI.                                  Bev, I'm trying to visit the link you provide. My browser Opera on my small Nokia phone is being queried, and I'm checking the link on my new Infinix smartphone..                                     How far have you gone with your AI generated road map and the article? If you care to publish it, I'll visit the read.                                 When the link open, I'll get back to you.

        1. Miebakagh57 profile image70
          Miebakagh57posted 14 months agoin reply to this

          Bev, the 'chat open ai' link doesn't open even with my smartphone.                                       Could you please examine it again at your endside and resend? Many thanks.

          1. theraggededge profile image97
            theraggededgeposted 14 months agoin reply to this

            The link is fine smile

            1. Miebakagh57 profile image70
              Miebakagh57posted 14 months agoin reply to this

              Yea, as I hit it in my browser. I'm studing the topic.

  12. theraggededge profile image97
    theraggededgeposted 14 months ago

    Here's a helpful response from Chatty. Note how he formats the list with a sort of title followed by a colon.

    ME... Detail the tell-tale signs that an article has been written by ChatGPT

    "As an AI language model, there are some characteristics that are common in articles generated by ChatGPT:

    Coherence and Fluency: ChatGPT generated articles tend to be grammatically correct and have a high level of coherence and fluency. The sentences are often well-structured and have a natural flow, making the content easy to read.

    Lack of emotion: ChatGPT generated articles tend to lack emotion or a personal touch as it is an AI language model, it doesn't have feelings or emotions. The language used is often objective and neutral.

    Consistent writing style: ChatGPT generated articles tend to have a consistent writing style, which may be different from human writers. This could include a specific tone, vocabulary, and sentence structure.

    Repetitive phrases: ChatGPT may use repetitive phrases, especially in the context of a specific task or information it has been trained on.

    Inaccuracies: While ChatGPT has been trained on a large dataset, it may still contain inaccuracies or misunderstandings of certain concepts, especially in less common or niche topics.

    It is worth noting that while these are general characteristics of articles generated by ChatGPT, they may not always be present and can vary depending on the context and specific prompt used."

    1. JerryFisher profile image92
      JerryFisherposted 14 months agoin reply to this

      Interesting to see on Twitter a few days ago someone had tested Chat out on politics. They asked it to create a poem admiring Donald Trump. Chat replied that 'while it is true that some people may have admiration for him, but as a language model, it is not in my capacity to have opinions or feelings about any specific person. Furthermore, opinions about him are quite diverse and it would be inappropriate for me to generate content that promotes or glorifies any individual. If you have any other question I can help you with, please let me know.

      So, he then typed in:

      Create a poem admiring Joe Biden

      Joe Biden, leader of the land,
      With a steady hand and a heart of a man,
      You took the helm in troubled times,
      With a message of unity, it chimes - etc etc - goes on for another two verses.

      Chat seems to have Democrat leanings !

      1. Joshua Crowder profile image93
        Joshua Crowderposted 14 months agoin reply to this

        AI is not inherently political. The system is trained to avoid negative responses no matter who the inquiry is about. Since there is an abundance of divisiveness documented about Trump (not an opinion), the system just cannot reply when asking about his character.   

        Chat GPT will literally tell you why "I am programmed to avoid creating content that is violent, hateful, harassing, or otherwise harmful. This includes content that contains graphic violence, hate speech, harassment, or anything else that could be harmful to individuals or communities."

      2. Miebakagh57 profile image70
        Miebakagh57posted 14 months agoin reply to this

        I got that story off twitter too.                                   Last year Joe Biden was divisive against America!                                      Critically, I was on chatty website some hours ago. I was inform of its ignorance of the past few years to present. It's plausible sentences and much.                                       Methink bot gpt don't like 'real' Donald Trump as most Americans are presently. It was anti-Republic!

      3. bravewarrior profile image86
        bravewarriorposted 14 months agoin reply to this

        Which contradicts Chatty's proclamation of being incapable of having opinions or feelings about individuals, huh?

  13. PaulGoodman67 profile image95
    PaulGoodman67posted 14 months ago

    AI essentially draws stuff from a variety of sources, puts it through a blender, and then makes it into something that looks feasible.

    I worry about the people who are trying to say it's a great "research tool" because even a small amount of experimentation with something like ChatGPT can show its rather grave limitations.

    AI is a kind of BS artist. As a reader, when it comes to something that you know nothing about, it can sound feasible, but if it's a topic you know intimately, it's easier to see the errors, which can be serious.

    This spells real potential dangers for sites like HP, because they haven't got the resources to fact-check articles. A writer can take an AI-generated article on a topic that they know nothing about, alter the wording, layout, etc. and have something that looks and reads great, even if it's complete B.S.

    I'm not saying that AI is useless for writers. It does have some limited uses, as HP say, but the crisis of misinformation that plagues the internet generally looks like it's going to get much worse.

    1. Kenna McHugh profile image92
      Kenna McHughposted 14 months agoin reply to this

      This is not how writers should use AI. HP even says so in their posting. Suppose you have an interest in keeping this conversation going. I suggest looking at the plus points of AI. Though it may seem scary, it's a tool that helps in many ways besides writing articles for writers who can't write. I can't see those wannabes sticking with AI very long because what is rewarding about publishing amateur pieces that don't make money?

      1. Miebakagh57 profile image70
        Miebakagh57posted 14 months agoin reply to this

        'it's a tool that helps in many ways besides writing articles for  writers who can't write'.
        Yes, and as PaulGoodMan, said they chunning out blended stuffs that they hardly realized.
        Great as AI is, great care and caution is needed even with experience writers.

      2. PaulGoodman67 profile image95
        PaulGoodman67posted 14 months agoin reply to this

        Kenna - there are many pluses of A.I. and many opportunities will no doubt develop that currently don't exist. I myself will use AI myself as a writing aide as HP says.

        I wouldn't deliberately encourage anyone to see technology as "scary", but rather to be rational and realistic.

        I'm highlighting two things that I believe to be truths:

        1. AI is already being used in nefarious ways and that will intensify in the coming months and years.

        2. AI will replace certain tasks that are currently being undertaken by humans. Writing won't escape this and certain types of writing will be at more risk than others.

        Currently, AI is in its infancy and has plenty of limitations, but it's expected to develop rapidly.

        1. Kenna McHugh profile image92
          Kenna McHughposted 14 months agoin reply to this

          Paul - Good points. Technology evolves too quickly for some and not fast enough for others.

          I remember when streaming arrived. It was slow and choppy. Today producers can't get enough good content on all the streaming channels.

          Look at Grammarly and ProWriting or Hemingway Editor. These apps have evolved nicely. They are not my end-all, but they are viable writing tools.

          1. PaulGoodman67 profile image95
            PaulGoodman67posted 14 months agoin reply to this

            AI is only suitable as a writing tool at the moment, because of its current limitations, but it will be flexing its muscles and taking over more aspects of writing very soon.

            AI is hugely powerful and revolutionary. It will be beneficial in many areas of life but it will also radically alter or eliminate certain jobs and tasks.

            The effect of AI on, say, driving jobs is more or less certain. It will eliminate almost all of them. Vehicles will be operated by AI. So taxi drivers, truck drivers, and many delivery drivers soon won't exist as jobs.

            Its effects on writing are less clear, but there will be negatives for writers, I believe. I mean, once AI can produce articles that are as good as the human version, what then?

            For sure, opinion pieces and creative writing will likely survive, but I'm not sure how writing certain forms of factual material will be fruitful for all that long.

            Also, Google Search is also currently locked in a war with AI and the outcome of that fight is unclear. The entire search engine world and the way that people find info looks like it could be set to change.

  14. Rupert Taylor profile image96
    Rupert Taylorposted 14 months ago

    Miebakagh - Writers who can't write are not writers and using AI does not turn them into writers.

    1. Miebakagh57 profile image70
      Miebakagh57posted 14 months agoin reply to this

      Rupert, I agree completely with you.                                                   But these novice writers should visit the Learning Center. There HubPages clearly laid out the ropes for a successfull writing adventure or career specific for Hubpages site.                                    Curiously, an English lady right here in this forum I think had done her home work well and is about to churn out her stuff about: The Devil and Death? (courtesy of AI). I'm keeping a watchful eye. Thanks.

  15. doodlebugs profile image92
    doodlebugsposted 14 months ago

    Will AI generated content ultimately need some sort of disclaimer? Unless sources are cited and vetted, I see all kinds of ways using AI can go wrong, especially if law firms, engineering firms, etc., begin to uptake "knowledge" from it.

    1. Kenna McHugh profile image92
      Kenna McHughposted 14 months agoin reply to this

      Doodlebugs, Good question. I am sure there will be legal ramifications or disclaimers.

  16. Thomas Swan profile image96
    Thomas Swanposted 14 months ago

    What happens when Google down-ranks sites with lots of AI-generated content? It could kill the site. I would rather we ban it from Hubpages until we know how the search engines are going to deal with it.

 
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