Well, my average views per hub, based on my current number of hubs, is about 9 every 24 hours, but I have one that's getting 100+ views every 24 hours currently, and have some that are total duds (1 view or none at all).
Now, if you're talking about the lifetime views...that's all over the place so I can't give you a solid number.
My hub that has gotten the most views ever is at around 4000 lifetime views.
I would say my average is about 9 a day. Unlike winterfate I have not gotten as many as she has. My most read hub received close to only 250
You joined 8 weeks ago and you already have 143 articles? And you are replying to a 12--year-old forum post? 2023 is off to an unusual start.
Yes, greenmind, it's all very odd.
An insane amount of articles on a vast array of topics, but they don't make it through onto the niches.
Maybe AI is involved? I noticed one of them had the ubiquitous 'In this article, we will discuss...'
I'm not saying that Dylan is using AI to write his articles but it is a possibility given the huge number he's published (three today). However, the low views indicate that Google is not ranking them very high.
Edit: So many of them are languishing on hubpages.com makes me wonder if HP is picking up that they could be AI. They are all written in a certain format and voice, whatever the topic. And many are a similar length.
Dylan, whatever you are doing, it's clearly not working.
He's certainly behaving like a "writing machine."
Like you say, Bev, all the articles follow a very similar format, despite being on very different topics. Plus there's no real writer's voice.
As far as earnings go, the views don't really matter if the articles are on hp.com.
I've suggested before that he should maybe reassess his strategy. He became irate.
Yes, AI also cross my mind...but I ignored it. Otherwise, how would he churned out these many stories?
Dylan, why don't you include applicable references in your articles? It's impossible for a person to be an expert in all of the topics that you write about. You are now showing that your images are legal to use, which is one good addition to your articles. I understand why people are suspicious about your use of AI, though.
Including relevant references for where you got your information would show that you aren't using artificial intelligence to create the articles. You also need to slow down, create longer articles, and describe why you are qualified to write about each topic that you've chosen on your profile.
Didn't realise my efforts would get so much attention. I seriously want to know how that works with seo positives and negatives. These forums should be supportive of hubbers efforts not put hubbers down. It's easy to research any topic and write about it. For every topic you want to write about almost 100 blogs already exist about it. I just open the first 5 in new tabs and steal their ideas and incorporate in my blog in my own words. This is working well for me so far but I'm about to ramp it up.
If you really need to know why I'm moving so fast I want to reach 10,000 blogs before this year ends. I know this is very ambitious but I'm a workaholic and I'm determined to meet my goal.
Why aren’t you listing the five articles that you opened as references? The writers did some of the work that helped you create your own article. They deserve credit.
I don't know if you're thinking this, but I will share this idea just in case you are. If you don't want to list your sources because it feels like you are supporting your competition, that means that there is something wrong in your approach to writing.
Even when you write a factual article and those facts have been obtained from the Internet, you need to add extra value for the reader in some way compared to the referenced articles. This could be an easier explanation of a technical topic, a description of how the topic has affected your personal life or someone that you know, or your concerns about the topic. By doing this, listing authoritative references would be supportive for your article instead of detrimental.
The authoritativeness and trust elements are crucial.
It's clear to me that zero effort is being made to follow the guidelines laid out by HP in the Learning Center. It's likely one reason among many why the vast majority of articles don't even make it to Discover, never mind the niches.
I interpret last year’s Helpful Content update this way. It, of course, still targets mindless and archaic SEO gimmicks like keyword stuffing and key phrase repeating. But it also deals with the qualitative issues. For example, the fact that too many sites are simply repeating what others have already said, albeit with re-writing.
I could be wholly wrong. But I suspect you might soon be confounded by the question of, “why aren’t people reading my stuff when I have the same to say?”
An article may say what another has said previously, but if it explains it better and has added photos and diagrams (in the case of say a STEM article), I think it should rank higher.
Yes, it's about building on and improving what has gone before. It means adding a new perspective, possibly drawing new conclusions, and giving additional benefits and insights to the reader.
Simply saying the same thing in the same words but in a different order isn't going to help anyone. Waste of pixels.
The response to a 12 years old thread by a relatively new writer is odd indeed.
I replied to this forum by mistake as I have been doing research on how to get more views on hubs using forum topics and other hubbers articles. I didn't know this is frowned upon. I think it's important for hubbers to remember we are on the same team. The more articles hubpages and discover has the better for everyone. We are all on the same boat so it does not matter which writer brings more viewers to the platform we all benefit somehow. When I started I noticed most of my article views come from hubpages and discover which means it's the related articles feature bringing in views. It's humanly possible to produce the articles I'm producing in a day. Some how tos have generic format because I'm using a template of intro, supporting points and conclusion this is just so I can move faster in content production. I'm seeing good results all together and yes I also have at least 3 articles on niche sites and most of my articles are featured on discover. Like I mentioned in a previous forum I realised that in the long run quantity wins the race over quality. I agree my articles need more work but I believe the quality is acceptable for now..since I'm going to keep editing.
The more we all write the more we all earn..prove me wrong.
A good way to look at it is to see ourselves as employees of hubpages. We need to write more articles per day for hubpages to survive and compete against competitors.
At most, I advise writing 1 article a day, maybe 5 a week. 2 a day is possible without eclipsing quality, but this isn't the norm--you have to be a really good writer to pull off 2 quality articles a day, and you have to have the time to do it.
If you're retired or don't have a full-time job or school, it's possible. But you also should really have a day job... if you're not retired. HP earnings don't cover all your expenses.
A lot of people here write a new article once a week, once a month, or with even longer breaks. You also have to frequently go back and edit your work to make sure it's still relevant.
Publishing 3 articles on HP in one day is too much. 5 is ludicrous and will come off spammy.
In order to get anywhere, you need to write original content. It should also be in the ballpark of about 1,250-2,000+ words. It takes time to write that many words and edit them and also add other content capsules to fit with your writing, such as appropriately licensed pictures, videos, charts, and polls.
Your goal right now should be to get on a niche site. Once you figure out how to do that, then start generating more content. Your pace right now is too much for this site.
This is an appropriate advise. In writing either as an hobby or profession, one should avoid stress and tension to prevent a mental breakdown.
You have explained it clearly. While for the most part of the last two years, I was working part-time, and had much time on my hands, I couldn't pull more than one article a week.
In my case, I can't write an article a day unless I write a shallow one. One article a week works best for me.
You need quantity and quality. You can't exclude one or the other.
Success = quality x quantity in terms of traffic
Of course you can write thousands of really bad articles and maybe they'll bring in the odd view per day and traffic may mount up, but you won't be giving your readers satisfaction and they won't necessarily get moved to network sites either.
Edit: Success = k x quality x quantity
where k is a constant of proportionality. Better get the math right
I do agree with you here, sir. Quality is as much as important as quantity.
If I had the ability the ability to write two articles, let alone 3-5, a day, I would be so proud of myself.
It takes me close to a week, some weeks, or even a month, to write an article. I have an article that has taken me the whole of December 2022 to write, and am wrapping it up.
I know it's possible to write 5 articles a day. But I prefer quality over quantity. I have more than 50 articles but only less than 7 articles receive good traffic, and earn me a monthly income. One gets 800 views per day.
I prefer working slow on an article because I ain't a journalist who has to write on a restricted or short time. I take my time to research even if I am very familiar or experienced with a subject.
Me too. I'm a slow coach also and I edit articles hundreds of times over the years.
@Ben716..How do you get an article to 800 views a day. Is it just SEO or are you promoting it?
'How' is what we're trying to tell you. Original, quality, well-formatted, properly referenced, useful articles is how.
Not boiler-plate, regurgitated material that has already been covered by other people.
Not sure why you aren't getting this?
Dylan, why are you now that curious? D' you now want to follow Ben with 'Baby steps'?
800 views on an article isn't the norm. It's the exception. A lot of articles don't draw in an audience like that, even if the information might be important. It's going to boil down to the topic and how frequently people are searching for it. Plus, that article needs to have little if any competition.
50-100 views a day on an article is pretty healthy. 1,000 views is exceptional, and it's unlikely that it will stay at that level. In some cases, any daily traffic is a good sign.
For over a year I had one hub pulling in 1-2 thousand a day. I was uneasy because I frankly think that hub wasn't that great.
But the shameless hypocrite I am, I did nothing about it.
It’s great when there is a hub pulling in a lot of traffic. It’s just not expected that all or even most will do that all at once.
I had a math article pulling in 1000 organic views per day for several months, a month after it was published, mostly due to a Google snippet. Now it's more like 80 per day. I'm not sure what happened. Maybe it was unique at the time, then everyone started replicating it and using the graphics.
That's not a unique story. I've had a number like that.
Usually, when they're getting 1000+, they're not just topping the ranking for the main keyword/phrase but also pulling as much if not more traffic from related keywords.
It leads to a dramatic drop if and when they fall from grace.
I think the rise and fall can be as much to do with the overall fortunes of the site, as much as the individual articles and their situations often.
Snippets do give a big boost though I think. I notice for my current region in Google searches, the BBC has the snippet for the search term "How to convert hex to binary" (this is similar to the title of the article that was pulling in views). My guide still seems to be in position one, but that may be because of recent searches and Google tailoring results that it thinks I might like. The BBC article has no infographics whatsoever like I have included and is just text, with a series of steps and some examples. I guess it ranks so high because of the authority of the organisation.
In theory, it's a level playing field, but it doesn't work like that in practice.
Product articles are the most frustrating in some ways. You can write experiences and details but still be beaten by a retail corporation that's just a list with generic descriptions.
I have never promoted my articles nor observed SEO when working on an article. I used to do that when publishing my articles on sites that were killed by Google Panda algorithm update.
I just write normally. I research on an article to get as much information as I can even if i'm familiar with a subject I'm working on. And then, write on the subject naturally.
I don't consider how many keywords I should put in an article depending on the length of an article. When you write naturally, the keywords will fall in the right places on your article. You won't write irrelevant keywords nor stuff your article with certain keywords.
The rest, I leave to Hubpages and Google search engine.
This has worked on many of my articles.
It's through my blog site I put SEO into practise. But still, I write naturally like you would when writing for a printed newspaper or magazine. Like SEO experts say, Content is the King.
Ben, thank you. I had that mindset. I'm still proof reading my last article before publishing.
I have 1,104,000+ views on 623 articles. So that's 1,772 views per article. All of mine have several hundred, some have views in 5 digits. There's no norm. My best advice is to write "evergreen".
I remember I used to join the "30-day Hub challenge" where you had to write an article a day for 30 days. It was exhausting, but that was about 10 years ago when articles didn't have to be long or super in depth to get views as there was less competition back then. Good old times.
Dylan published five articles in the space of three hours earlier today.
Edit: Oops... make that seven.
Honestly I don't think this goal will be possible maybe say in 3 - 5 years. I have tried doing more articles a day and the best day I did was 10 articles but they were really shallow to begin with and not more than 500 words. However I'm not seeing any results from this articles. My first article brings in most of the views now at 80 a day and the rest it's 0-5 views at the very best. But for my first article I did keyword research, it was low KD, plus I have continously edited (about 5 times in total) and promoted it constantly
I'm thinking of changing my strategy moving forward I'll do 2 detailed articles per day with at least 1500 words and take more time on the research phase.
I'm also taking a break and will just be reading other hubbers hubs for the next 3-4 days as I feel really burned out. I wouldn't advice this ambitious strategy for anyone probably best to focus on quality and consistency. There are days you get so psyched up but then the next day you are so exhausted you can't even write one article. Sorry for the amateur hour guys but I had to test it out for myself. Hoping to reach 10,000 articles one day still not giving up haha.
lesson learnt: Consistency is king.
I'm glad to see you are following the advice of experienced writers here. Quality is what pays off. As of this writing, you have three articles out of 157 on niche sites; two of these are on Letterpile, which doesn't score well.
You've been spinning your wheels.
An important element of writing is thinking, and you can't do that if you are racing to meet impossible output goals. Lack of thought shows up in the text, and readers notice this, as do editors who decide whether or not to promote our offerings to sites that earn money.
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