What is the average income of a new article writer on HubPages?

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  1. Aman Ullah Ghazi profile image61
    Aman Ullah Ghaziposted 6 years ago

    Need detailed and honest explaination.

    1. theraggededge profile image95
      theraggededgeposted 6 years agoin reply to this

      The average monthly earnings for a new writer on HubPages with fewer than 20 hubs is $0.00. It usually (not always) takes several months to write enough to get to payout ($50).

    2. Dean Traylor profile image93
      Dean Traylorposted 6 years agoin reply to this

      Something to add to the conversation: Payouts can vary. Sometimes it will take three or four months to reach $50. Other times you may make one or over $50 per month two or three times in a row.  It can a roller coaster ride in which one month you post $15 and then make $150. the next month. At best, you need a little persistence and patience. Keep writing and expand your portfolio, pay attention (but don't get obsessed) to trends on the internet, and edit and fine tune your articles as much as possible. You never know: somebody out there may discover an article and push it to new heights

    3. jackclee lm profile image80
      jackclee lmposted 6 years agoin reply to this

      Average monthly income from HP is about $8. A better way to make money is trading in MVEN stock.
      It is the company that bought HP recently. It is trading in the OTC market for about $2 a share. It fluctuates daily and you can make some serious money...buy and sell...

      1. profile image0
        promisemposted 6 years agoin reply to this

        MVEN lost $1.7 million in its last quarter, according to financial statements filed with the SEC.

        I suggest people stay away from such a stock unless they like gambling.

        1. jackclee lm profile image80
          jackclee lmposted 6 years agoin reply to this

          Yes, I agree. The stock market is a casino.
          The recent run of the DOW is due to the Trump effect...
          Sooner or later, the market will correct.
          My suggestion was made for those who have faith in HP and its positive effect on Maven.
          The hope is the synergy between the two companies will be a success.

          In the meantime, a 1000 shares of the stock cost about $2000.
          A 10% swing will bring in $200. That is more than I make in 2 years on HP.
          I donate all my earnings to charity.

          Of course there is no guarantees.
          Just a small gamble like you said...

    4. Lorelei Nettles profile image85
      Lorelei Nettlesposted 16 months agoin reply to this

      It all comes down to the quality of articles and the number of articles you have. I have 30 but only a handful are popular. I make about $50 a year. I need to write a lot more pieces to bring that number up.

  2. Marisa Wright profile image86
    Marisa Wrightposted 6 years ago

    Relache, one of our veteran Hubbers, used to run a poll every year asking how much people were earning. 

    Year after year, the result of the poll was that the vast majority of Hubbers make less than $10 a month.  Only those with an excellent command of English, good writing skills and a willingness to learn to write for an online audience did better than that. 

    At the other end of the scale, at one time (pre-2011) there were several Hubbers making over $2,000 a month.  There's still a small handful achieving that kind of figure now, but bear in mind they have a large portfolio of articles built up over many years. 

    There are many of us who make payout every month and a smaller number who make a few hundred dollars a month, but they are definitely a minority.   In fact if you look at the whole of HubPages.com, it used to be that 20% of the Hubs made 80% of the income.  I don't know how that figure is tracking now the vertical sites have been created.

    1. Shogun profile image40
      Shogunposted 6 years agoin reply to this

      Thanks for the valuable input, Marisa. I honestly didn't really even think about the possible earnings from writing Hubs, but any and all feedback is helpful.

      1. Marisa Wright profile image86
        Marisa Wrightposted 6 years agoin reply to this

        Shogun, can I suggest you edit your preferences so that your profile shows your unfeatured Hubs?  If you're here to be social, then you want other Hubbers to be able to see them, even if the general public can't.

        1. Shogun profile image40
          Shogunposted 6 years agoin reply to this

          Ha! I've only posted one or two stories, which I'm goin to edit and republish later this week. I will definitely tweak profile settings a bit, however.

          Thanks for the advice!

  3. Natalie Frank profile image91
    Natalie Frankposted 6 years ago

    I really started writing more regularly last Feb. with only a few hubs before.  I got my first payout ehen o hot $50 the montb before last.  I think I may make payout again this month.  I figure it could take anotber 6 months to a year before i have enough hibs wotb eniugh traffic to be making payment at $50 each month. Though this has been said numerous times, the people who get the most out of HP are those who take part in and enjoy the community and who want to share knowledge and grow as a writer.  No one, even the top earners, are going to get rich from HP.  Hope you are able to enjoy what HP had to offer.

  4. Aman Ullah Ghazi profile image61
    Aman Ullah Ghaziposted 6 years ago

    Thank you everyone. feedback was helpful.

  5. NateB11 profile image89
    NateB11posted 6 years ago

    From my experience: You can reach payout within 3 months, with about 30 articles, if you accidentally or intentionally get a lot of traffic. Without trying to get traffic at all, it can take a couple years. I've had both experiences. 

    At any rate, it is possible to start getting a payout within a few months and soon after maybe make around a few hundred a payout. That's with the initial 30 articles. Of course, you can keep building from there.

    Again, this is my experience, some writers are more successful, or some less, than what I described here.

    1. Aman Ullah Ghazi profile image61
      Aman Ullah Ghaziposted 6 years agoin reply to this

      So 30 articles is a minimum threshold for payout?
      or something else?

      1. TIMETRAVELER2 profile image86
        TIMETRAVELER2posted 6 years agoin reply to this

        Not really.  There have been some people here with only 12 articles that made good money and some with thousands that made very little.  It is not the number of articles that matter but rather how well you write and whether what you write is something people want to read!

        1. Aman Ullah Ghazi profile image61
          Aman Ullah Ghaziposted 6 years agoin reply to this

          What is the particular minimum condition for a payout then?

          1. Marisa Wright profile image86
            Marisa Wrightposted 6 years agoin reply to this

            You can expect to earn between $2 and $5 per thousand visitors to your account.  It's the same whether it's one Hub that gets thousands of visitors, or 1,000 Hubs that get only one or two visitors each. 

            There is no way to tell whether a particular Hub will get thousands of visitors or only one or two.  It depends entirely on whether people find it on Google.  People will rarely find it on Google unless it ranks on the front page, and it's up to Google to decide where to rank your Hub.  If you write a Hub that pleases Google, it will rank well and you'll make some money.  If it doesn't please Google, you'll make next to nothing.

            There is no guarantee and no predictability about it.   I have one Hub that was published in 2007, and in all that time it's had only 3,000 views.  I have another Hub that in the same period, has had almost half a million views.  When I wrote them, I expected the first one to get more traffic than the second one.

          2. NateB11 profile image89
            NateB11posted 6 years agoin reply to this

            I am only speaking from personal experience: About 30 in-depth articles, crafted for what people very specifically and actually search for on the Web.

            No doubt there are people who can do it with fewer articles and those who would need to write many more articles.

            1. NateB11 profile image89
              NateB11posted 6 years agoin reply to this

              If the articles are not crafted for what you can reasonably discern people are looking for on the Web, then I'd say you have to write somewhere in the neighborhood of 150-200 or so articles and not expect a payout for around a year or more. Very rough estimate there.

          3. theraggededge profile image95
            theraggededgeposted 6 years agoin reply to this

            $50 in your account, the month prior to payout.

  6. psycheskinner profile image84
    psycheskinnerposted 6 years ago
  7. cleoaddams profile image83
    cleoaddamsposted 6 years ago

    Aman, it depends on traffic from the HubPages community, Google and the rest of the web. If you write informative articles with good grammar, then the traffic will come naturally. But, this site is like anything in life - you have to work at it. Work hard and then you reap what you sow.

  8. daydreams profile image94
    daydreamsposted 6 years ago

    It all depends on how many views you can get for a hub, so I don't think you can judge by the number of hubs.

    I dip in and out of writing on this site, so only have around 20 hubs, but 3 of those get lots more hits than other and based largely on 3 hubs I manage to make a payout every few months- most of the other 17 hubs I have don't make much difference at all, even though some of them are better written.

    Easier said than done, but the best way is to find something you can write about well that hasn't been written about (or hasn't been written about well) that people are interested in.

    When I first joined I don't think I made anything for at least a year either, maybe longer- I can't remember!

  9. EricFarmer8x profile image94
    EricFarmer8xposted 6 years ago

    My account shows as being a year old but I really only started writing last November. I made just under $3 in December. That was with about 13 Hubs and most of the traffic coming from particular Hub.

    I guess at this rate I would make my first payout by the end of this year if not sooner depending on future Hubs I write.

  10. profile image0
    Jean Harrisposted 6 years ago

    In my experience, to put it simply, not all hubs are created equal.

    - Some subjects are more competitive than others, harder to rank for
    - Some subjects are searched for more than others impacting traffic potential
    - Some subjects have better payouts as advertiser competition is higher(or lower)

    All of these things and a hundred others will impact your bottom line. You can improve your odds by researching what Google or Bing think are the top existing pages about the hub you are creating, plug your proposed title into the search engine and see what the competition has ranked in the top 3 positions. Your goal - provide better value for your reader than exists already, now that you can control.

    Even then, it's not as simple as that.

    I typically will not try to compete when I see the results are 100% transactional(products for sale) featuring entries by Amazon or Walmart or other major stores. Why not? Because transactional results suggest Google thinks your querry is from a person wanting to buy something and those results tend to be fierce competitiors. Instead try to target the queries with results that are informational, ie: the top 3 are articles offering tips or answers or guides, not a store with products. That is where you can shine since you don't actually sell a product.

    Some do well in those areas but, if you write about iphones for example, you can expect Apple to outrank you all day long so you're not going to top rank. Even Google is competition when the querry is transactional as they will show products ahead of results. Also, don't ignore longtail searches. ie: more than one word, typically a sentence regarding a specific aspect of a broader subject.

    Once you see what you are competing against and feel that you have a chance at outperforming the top results your job, should you choose to accept it, is to create content with better value than is available. Good luck!

    1. Jean Bakula profile image92
      Jean Bakulaposted 6 years agoin reply to this

      Your articles that are on niches get more Google traffic, even if they didn't while still just on Hubpages. I've had ones that had little activity that got popular on niche sites.

  11. Lorelei Nettles profile image85
    Lorelei Nettlesposted 6 years ago

    5 articles have earned me .48 cents so far. I was excited to see anything frankly, but I like what was said about building up a viewership with lots of articles. Wish my brain worked that fast. wink

  12. Kenna McHugh profile image91
    Kenna McHughposted 6 years ago

    I come and go from HP due to work fluctuation because I freelance. I am one of the original writers when HP paid us to write articles. 

    I have had payouts after not writing anything for years. Now, I am serious about HP writing and having fun making a little bit of money in between my other serious writing gigs. wink

    I recommend reading HP articles on how to write for them and how to make money. Study the area and as best you can. Then, study it some more.

    Being a writer can be lonely sometimes. The HP writers are great and I have fun chatting with them, which is nice since I am a writer.

  13. Paul Kuehn profile image94
    Paul Kuehnposted 6 years ago

    I have been on Hubpages almost seven years and have a portfolio of 216 hubs.  That being said, I have been getting payouts once every two months over the past six months.  Prior to that, it took three or four months to get a payout.  Hubs which pay me the most are in Hubpages niche sites because they get more views that regular Hubpages articles.  My suggestion is to write informative articles from your heart and constantly update these hubs.

  14. Deb Vesco Roberts profile image95
    Deb Vesco Robertsposted 5 years ago

    I guess I'm off to a much better start here than I thought! My first few articles earned me 32 cents last September, 2018. I got my first payout of $56 in January; the end of the year I really started seeing some traffic and I put out more articles. I think I'm making most of my money off just 2 of my articles with great content and good Amazon links. I made $76 in January and $63 in February, however, in just the first 7 days in March, I'm up to almost $30. If that trend continues, this will be a good month I feel. I look at it this way...I made nothing on my personal blog for years, it was just "for fun". If I make enough to support having a few lunches with friends each month, then it's a win. I'd prefer to be able to make my car payment, but from what I've been reading, that isn't likely possible on HP unless you work it; like recruiting other writers and getting great articles like 2 of my 25 are. I also share my article links on niche FB sites that apply to the articles and Pinterest is where I'm starting to see some referrals as well. I would like to hear from folks who are making a little side income here, if anyone is willing to share that. Also, I keep reading about HP being affiliated with Ebay, but I see no way to connect to my account. Is that old news or something that is still possible?

    1. DrMark1961 profile image96
      DrMark1961posted 5 years agoin reply to this

      Sounds like you are doing great. Keep working on those articles that are doing well. It is hard to say what is going to do well until you have published it.
      As far as ebay, that cruise ship has sailed. HP no longer works with that site. (There are still plenty of hubs out there that will tell you how to earn with ebay, and how to post of Squidoo to get the maximum earnings!)

  15. Deb Vesco Roberts profile image95
    Deb Vesco Robertsposted 5 years ago

    I think so! I have already made in 8 days what I made last month! I just hope I can continue improving. I am surprised to see how little money people are really making here. I am not familiar with Squidoo, so I will go check that out now!

    1. theraggededge profile image95
      theraggededgeposted 5 years agoin reply to this

      Squidoo is dead. All their top articles were transferred to HubPages. Dr Mark just meant there are still sites out there that refer to it.

      1. DrMark1961 profile image96
        DrMark1961posted 5 years agoin reply to this

        Didnt they sail on the same cruise ship as ebay?

  16. profile image57
    MelaniTrystposted 16 months ago

    For new HubPages writers with fewer than 20 hubs, the typical monthly income is $0.00. A few months are typically (but not always) required to write enough to reach the payoff ($50).

    1. redsquare1 profile image61
      redsquare1posted 16 months agoin reply to this

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    2. Nell Rose profile image90
      Nell Roseposted 16 months ago

      I haven't written for a while now, but still get paid once a month. A few years ago it was well over 100 dollars a month, but now it's only around 70. But its good as it pays a few bills. To start with though it will take you around a year to hit the 50 dollar mark. All depending on what you write about.

      1. Isivwe Muobo profile image75
        Isivwe Muoboposted 16 months agoin reply to this

        I have been here a while and I'm yet to hit payout. Guess there must be something I'm doing wrong.

        Meeting payouts even when you haven't written for a while is quite impressive.

        1. greenmind profile image93
          greenmindposted 16 months agoin reply to this

          Hi Ms. Isivwe Muobo – I think you and everyone here would benefit from always pursuing the niche sites for their articles. It's time consuming and sometimes frustrating, but without niche site articles, pay-out can take forever!

          You are a strong writer and you have solid articles/ideas. It took me 2+ years to start making $ here but once it catches fire it builds almost on its own. Good luck!

          1. Isivwe Muobo profile image75
            Isivwe Muoboposted 16 months agoin reply to this

            I'll work towards this. It's just so discouraging because no matter what I do, most of my articles just don't make the cut.

    3. honghanhvt1182 profile image91
      honghanhvt1182posted 16 months ago

      I made around $10 - $20 per month. In some very lucky months, I earned around $30. The earnings are almost meaningless even for someone living in a developing country like me. Life is hard here if money is what you are after sad

      1. Isivwe Muobo profile image75
        Isivwe Muoboposted 16 months agoin reply to this

        $10 - $30 isn't much, but it's quite encouraging. If I made this I would be inspired to put in more effort to see it grow.

     
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