Build Your Empire, money IS power......
- Ryan Kettposted 15 years ago
0You know some of us have jobs. Your strategy will have me become a stark raving maniac babbling endlessly about hubs and no one will know what I'm talking about.
Blimey
Ryan, I just read number 1 and I nearly stopped reading your post. I mean 120 hubs in 15 days????? Take a break once in a while and head to the forums. I don't blame you for trying to avoid the forums, it does get into hubbing and writing but it's also a great way to relax. Just avoid the religion and the political forums and you'll be fine.
Good luck in your endeavors. I would dearly love to join you and if I only don't have a day job, I'll join you in a heartbeat. Unfortunately, duty calls. Thanks for the open invitation.Lol, emievil..... I am not going to do 120 hubs in 15 days. I am going to reach 120 hubs in 15 days (I already have 106)
I wasn't asking people to copy me, I was just drunk..... and going on a preaching sesh.
- \Brenda Scullyposted 15 years ago0
Would it make me happy? Probably not..... but I am only talking about $10 a day Brenda
thats hardly going to give me a playbody lifestyle! Well when I get to the dizzy heights of $10, I wont forget the little people..... I will buy you a drink 
- Ryan Kettposted 15 years ago0
Viryabo, Voodoo, Dog...... hop aboard the adsense train. If its delayed by 3 days, its because I am currently in exile
- \Brenda Scullyposted 15 years ago0
Thats all good, you can buy me one back then
I've been staying off the forums & writing, reading, commenting! Remember, one of the things people encourage is you become active in the forums when you first become a hubber.
I can't stress enough, people, in general, judge from first impressions (& 2nd, 3rd & 4th). People come into the forums and READ - make sure the impression they get of you is one they will want to keep & continue reading what you write & referring others to read what you've writtenGood luck with the grand plan ryan, sounds like you have given it a lot of thought. Your going to be really busy, but I guess thats a good thing
Ryan, can I go with you?
Ryan, I thought twice about whether or not to hit "submit" after this reply turned as long as it did; but I find the forums entertaining, and I don't think anyone (not even the "iffy" people) deserve to be insulted en masse. So, although I don't really care one way or another what anyone on here does or doesn't do, I thought I'd go ahead and hit "submit", in defense of the forum and any "iffy" people participating on it. If any of them have personally attacked you then they deserve the 3-day ban too, because you don't deserve personal attacks either.
You have some good ideas for increasing earnings, and I can understand anyone's disenchantment with some of what goes on in the forums. On the other hand, I reached $10 last year, while still dabbling in the forums when I wanted to take a break from working (either on Hubs or other "real" work). In fact, I've seen lots of over-$20 days. So, people can participate on the forums for whatever their reasons may be and still earn that $10 a day (or, in other people's cases and sometimes my own, more). If people participate in the forums thinking that will increase their earnings, they're wrong. It can contribute to their HubScore but doesn't usually do much for earnings (which come when a Hub is the right kind of Hub and gets traffic).
It's completely possible (for anyone who finds it a little entertaining or a good break from more serious work) to participate in the forums without engaging (or at least engaging for more than a few seconds) in the small-minded arguments with people to whom one doesn't much relate. Some people like a little discussion that kind of challenges their debating skills. I know I've had a lot of times when things (not necessarily intended to be funny) on here have me laughing so hard I feel like I'll pass out from lack of oxygen. Sometimes it's light entertainment. Sometimes it's a way to get to know other Hubbers a little better.
Not everyone on the forums is "lowest of the low, down and outs, social recluses, worthless, pathetic, losers with very little in their lives." Are there some who may be what you have described? Probably. Anything public always has people who has "issues". Still, sometimes it is the most industrious, most well adjusted, people who do have full lives who can have a sense of humor or enjoy dabbling in a little debate. For anyone who is inclined to look for a little entertainment on the forums, earning and participating are not mutually exclusive. There's something to be said for "live and let live" and for not taking the forums personally or as something that will prevent anyone from having success with his Hubs.
Offering your good ideas about increasing traffic/earnings, and kind of challenging fellow Hubbers to aim for more success in earnings, are positive and generous-minded things to do in a community; but, respectfully, it's kind of unfortunate you decided to include ugly remarks that (again, respectfully) never do much for anyone's success in a business or "pseudo-business" environment.
I know your remarks imply that some people on the forums are "non-losers", but I don't see the need to fling out "if-the-shoe-fits" crude remarks at either people you've had problems with or else anyone in general. It's not my business or intent to "lecture" here, because what anyone does isn't my business. Still, there have been lots of people on here who have indicated respect for you, as a writer, and valuing your presence on the forums and HubPages. In one of your other "bannings" all kinds of "support" threads were started on your behalf. I'd think you would appreciate the people who have supported you and just ignore anyone you think has some problem. Just be glad you don't have whatever problem you think they do. If someone is so "bottom of the barrel", why the need to even try to insult them? Ignore them. You're right - engaging in all kinds of petty foolishness and extended fighting is childish, but you're the one who apparently keeps getting banned and then keeps posting threads with crude or demeaning remarks in them.
I have no doubt that you or any number of other Hubbers who have decent grammar skills can put in whatever effort is required to earn decent money. (By the way, my $10 or $20-plus a day has not resulted in a lot of increased power for me. ) In business, though, when one has an affiliation with one company that makes it possible for those earnings to be made, the way to sure success is not usually through appearing to attempt to discourage what that business, itself, encourages. In business, that kind of thing is seen as "divisive" or "disgruntled". In general, it's not the way to get or earn the respect and trust of any potential "followers". Most of the time people skills must accompany other skills and motivation in order for anyone to build an "empire". Good luck with aims to earn more. That makes sense, and I don't doubt you can achieve your aims. If you can form a group with shared aims and information, great. That's the whole idea behind having a community. At the same time, participating in the forums is one form of community and doesn't mean people won't/can't earn with their Hubs. Whether it's with admission to college, getting or keeping a job, or anything else; being well rounded and able to deal with graciously with aggravating people both usually work well for most people.- \Brenda Scullyposted 15 years ago0
- I'd like to clarify that I didn't use the word, "brat". I do think it's too bad, though, when someone has ability and is clearly well liked by so many that "ugliness" and negativity have to keep popping up. Nobody has to engage in the fights, or if they engage in them they don't need to take them personally. There's so much of a sense of community on HubPages. A few out-of-line remarks don't have to nullify that. Again, though, it's not my business; and I know that. At least for the last couple of hours, being too tired to write but too awake to sleep, I'm one of those people who doesn't, in fact, have much to do right now (that I feel like doing), so I had the time to write the long post. I guess that makes me one of those people with "not much going on", at least tonight.
Ryan who...?
O the guy everyone was talking about. Oh! So this is his comeback. Mmmmm!
Man, he's got it bad.
Somebody take him for a picnic or a walk in the park or something.
My impression: Like so many talented persons these days he just hasn't found his perfect niche (guess that describes most of us on HubPages) so he's just itching for a fight or something.
Ryan, the secret of happiness is to make others happy. But what do I know, I'm just one of the religious nuts
Thanks for the ideas.
EDIT: the new pic had me fooled. A bright one on the forum but too caustic at times. Ran into him already. Other avatar pic was better.Ryan congrats on your 30 in 30 goals.
I tried it twice. Did 20 in 30.
Then 23 in 30. Was trying to do 100 in 60.
Now I'm having a third go; 1 in 2 days. Think I'll do the 30 this time.Thanks, I have done 3 in a row..... going to stop at 120 hubs, which is 4 in a row. Need a break from it
Brenda, maybe the middle child in me has come out here. They say middle kids try to be "diplomats" and "peace-keepers".
Of course, I'm the first to refute any negative things "they" say about middle children. - \Brenda Scullyposted 15 years ago0
I kind of liked being in the middle, but there was the big-ish age difference between us. I got to play with my sister while she was young enough to play (or at least draw), but when she outgrew me I got to play with my brother. I have to say I think both may have felt more like "big cheeses" in the family than I did; but I think feeling like others saw me as the "chronic little cheese" worked to my advantage in a lot of ways.
(I'm strong and independent and not someone who looks to "the world" for validation or "big cheese-ery". )- \Brenda Scullyposted 15 years ago0
- Ryan Kettposted 15 years ago0
My last three hubs have been called:-
Louis Theroux
Famous Serial Killers: Dennis Nilsen
Sir Geoff Hurst
If you can find a $1 keyword in there, I will give you $1 - \Brenda Scullyposted 15 years ago0
- Hi, Ryan. As I mentioned, I knew it was way long and thought about not posting it because of the length. Then, though - why waste what one has already typed.... I think (besides the fact that I was too wide-eyed to sleep but too tired to do much of anything else) my post was the result of lots of things I've seen recently that complain about how "awful" (my word, not someone else's) the forums are these days. There seems to more of that talk recently than in the past, but sometimes I wonder if there's a Charlotte's Web type of thing that goes on (a self-fulfilling-prophecy type of thing).
As I mentioned to Brenda, maybe it's the middle child in me coming out; but sometimes when unpleasant words start getting "flung" (wherever they may be being flung - on here or not), it's my tendency to take it upon myself to try to put some perspective on things. I usually only go into the politics or religion forums occasionally (out of boredom), but enough religious remarks make their way to the other forums (with some of them implying some of us are ignorant or headed for hell) that I actually wrote a "retaliation" Hub and didn't include a comment box - just to vent and have my say. It isn't all posters of religious stuff, though - only a few who use the forums to preach, rather than "discuss as equals". Whatever - it's generally a nice community and only an online forum. I do think it's kind of too bad that a lot of people who would like to have "regular" discussions (even if about religion) leave/have left; because that has left the imbalance (in the direction of religious threads) that we see on here these days.
Oh well, if you devote all your HubPages time to your Hubs good luck. It's not a bad idea, but pop back once in a while and let people know if find a formula for major earnings increases.
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