Should I check Kontera before I publish my hub?

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   tim-timposted 15 years ago

   I need to find out how to optimize and make the most out of my hubs. With Kontera, do I need to sign up as well?

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   Marisa Wrightposted 15 years ago

   Yes if you want to use Kontera you need to sign up - but don't do it until you have a lot of traffic. If you don't reach the minimum payout figure within a month, you lose the money.

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      tim-timposted 15 years agoin reply to this

      I thought they don't pay you till you get $100 but did not know you will lose it if you don't reach certain amount. So, would it benefit me if I sign up and how do I sign up? I am still learning. Thanks for your help.

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   sunforgedposted 15 years ago

   Relache estimated you would need a minimum of 10,000 monthly views to turn and keep a profit with Kontera (im pretty sure that is the figure)
   
   Personally, i think that form of advertisement is the lowest of the low and refuse to read pages that use it.
   
   I think there are others like me
   
   i also have trouble believing kontera doesnt detract from your higher paying adsense clicks

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      tim-timposted 15 years agoin reply to this

      So, would you recommend signing up or no? Would it hrt me if I sign up and don't get the traffic? Thanks for your help.

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   sunforgedposted 15 years ago

   It will not hurt you to sign up, and you have the option of turning Kontera on or off each hub.
   
   It may actually hurt your overall earnings if you choose to have those ads on your hubs...but that is debatable.
   
   Sign up for Kontera here:
   http://www.kontera.com/index.php/publishers/sign-up

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      tim-timposted 15 years agoin reply to this

      Great! Now that I signed up. It tells me to paste and copy a link in front of every page. What exactly do I paste and where? I feel stupid! Can you help again? Thanks.

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   sunforgedposted 15 years ago

   http://hubpages.com/my/affiliate
   
   
   read through that code you will see publisher id = xxxxxxxx   insert that number at the link i provided

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      tim-timposted 15 years agoin reply to this

      sunforged, thanks! You are the best!

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   Vibhavariposted 15 years ago

   Hi, thank you. This discussion has helped me too. I was wondering how to check for kontera ads and if they do show on your hubs. I have signed for kontera but I do not know how to check if their ads show, plus I don't seem to be earning anything much from there, just some cents!

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      sunforgedposted 15 years agoin reply to this

      You can see the ads only when you are NOT logged into Hubpages.
      
      You could check w/o looking at your pages simply be seeing if impressions are showing in your kontera dashboard
      
      You probably arent earning very much...before i pulled Kontera from my hubs and websites I would see 5 or 6 clicks showing no earnings whatsoever. i think teh highest click i ever got was .o6 cents
      
      I am not a fan or a supporter of the program.

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      tim-timposted 15 years agoin reply to this

      Good! I am glad that it helps you too!I am still not sure about a lot of things here. I am just not very computer savvy.

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   thisisoliposted 15 years ago

   I think there has been a huge misconcepton here, with Kontera you DO NOT lose the money in your account if you fail to meet the payment level.
   
   "If your account balance is less than US$100 at the end of the month, earnings (for all your sites combined) are rolled forward to the following month, until the payment threshold is reached."
   
   I am currently working towards my first paycheck with kontera and have lost no money through this, though I have sent an email to their customer services to confirm.
   
   I currently use Kontera on my Hubs, and while it does not earn a huge amount, I do not think it detracts from other earnings, so it is just another way of leveraging earnings from my content.

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      darksideposted 15 years agoin reply to this

      What's being said around here is if you earn under $5 in the month, that money is forfeit.
      
      So it's suggested you'd need to get at least 10k+ ad impressions to get that minimum amount.

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      Marisa Wrightposted 15 years agoin reply to this

      Thanks for the clarification, oli.  The trouble is, as Darkside said, is that if you don't reach $5 in a month, it's wiped. So if you never earn more than $5 a month, it will never build up to anything!

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      relacheposted 15 years agoin reply to this

      If you earn less than $5 in a month, their stated minimum earning level, Kontera does NOT roll over those funds, they keep them.  That's clearly stated in their Publisher TOS.
      
      That's why I have said that it's my belief that the average HubPages user would need 10,000 pageviews as a general traffic level in order to make any money with Kontera.  That's just what you are going to need to make sure you clear that $5 threshold.

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   thisisoliposted 15 years ago

   Weird, I will check back when I get a response from Kontera, I have had months at less than $5 which still appear in my reports, won't know for sure until I get an e-mail back from their tech support though.
   
   If they do forfeit earnings then that really is a $%@£$ move similar to click bank in %$£@%!*holeishness.

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      Marisa Wrightposted 15 years agoin reply to this

      This might be the answer?
      
      http://blog.kontera.com/2009/04/07/kontera-update/

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         darksideposted 15 years agoin reply to this

         So it's removed now?
         
         Good.
         
         Thanks for finding that Marisa.

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      Lynda Garyposted 15 years agoin reply to this

      Regarding clickbank ...
      
      Just read another thread that gave it praises, but here it's described in curse &#$*% language.
      
      Hmmm.

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         thisisoliposted 15 years agoin reply to this

         Click bank chip away at your earnings in a whole host of ways.  Despite earning with them on esveral occasions I now tend to not even consider it an option on sites which would otherwise be well suited.

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            Lynda Garyposted 15 years agoin reply to this

            What do you prefer?
            
            I signed up with clickbank yesterday and gave it a trial run with one product hub (my first, actually).
            
            I'm new, so I'm not earning much yet, but I'd like to make sure I'm heading in the right direction.  My topics of choice don't seem to be the kind that generate revenue (parenting, relationships, health, etc.)
            
            The product and how-to hubs are simple for me to write, and those seem to be where the money is, right?  But using WHICH form of income?

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               thisisoliposted 15 years agoin reply to this

               Heh thats a good question, it seems to be a personal thing. You might find more luck than me with a particular advertising system.
               
               I prefer Amazon, which has real products, to Clickbank, which is mostly digital producs.

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   relacheposted 15 years ago

   I'm looking for my copy of their publisher TOS, which they don't have prominently linked on their site.  They only have the site users TOS, which is different.
   
   I've never had a month where I earned less than $5, so that's part of why Kontera has worked for me.

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      darksideposted 15 years agoin reply to this

      I have seen it mentioned, but when I've gone back to quote it verbatim I couldn't find it again. So if you find it can you post an excerpt and a link to it?

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    relacheposted 15 years ago

    I would have thought they'd have wanted to make that more apparent to their publishers than just a blog post, considering the majority of their service users probably don't read it.
    
    But a nice change nonetheless....

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       Marisa Wrightposted 15 years agoin reply to this

       You'd think so, wouldn't you.  I only found it by Googling and their blog wasn't even high in the rankings.

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    sunforgedposted 15 years ago

    That was news to me too, I think the damage has already been done for Kontera, lots of high profile sites have been pointing out the negatives of the Kontera program for far to long.
    
    When looking for negatives about a program/brand you will find that angry people tend to post " whatever program SUCKS"
    
    So old info on Konteras drawbacks are easily found by searching  "Kontera Sucks"
    
    http://www.shoemoney.com/2008/03/26/holy-crap-kontera/

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       thisisoliposted 15 years agoin reply to this

       I am not sure I would trust a post which discounts Google Adsense in the same breath as Kontera, nor someone who doesn't proofread what they write on something which they obviously think is of great importance! (ie. sence instead of since, etc.)

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          sunforgedposted 15 years agoin reply to this

          lol, shoemoney doesnt have to spell right!
          
          He loves money and has been good at making it online for a long time, I dont think hes a good teacher or says much worth following...but if you can squeeze profit from it , he does.
          
          he discounts in a way many people with targetted websites would "Google Adsense ...limited editorial control"
          
          the link i posted at the time was merely a random selection from the "kontera sucks' search
          
          he used to do real well with ringtone sites and dating sites ..CPA stuff - dinky little pennies per click through adsense is hardly a draw when you are successful in CPA

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    shai77posted 15 years ago

    Hi everybody.
    Just wanted to ask if the per click for contera are smaller than the earning from adsense clicks.
    Someone said here that the earnings from contera clicks are very low,less than cent for a click, is that right?
    Also i understand that there is no problems adding both adsense and kontera in the same hub,right?

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    thisisoliposted 15 years ago

    Kontera Support to me
    show details 8:17 PM (2 hours ago)
    Thanks for contacting Accounting via Kontera Support.  Kontera DOES NOT remove earnings, if you do not reach the $100 payment minimum by a certain date.  If the Revenue Share for any given month is less than one hundred dollars
    ($100), Kontera will roll such amount over until the minimum for payment is met.
    
    For a complete overvivew of our payment terms/schedule, please visit our KnowledgeBase at:
    
    Payment Terms and Schedule
    
    http://kb.kontera.com/questions/69/
    
    Thanks for all your interest in Kontera.  Have a great day.
    
    Regards,
    Jack
    Accounting
    
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    thisisoliposted 15 years ago

    It seems like Kontera now operate a roll-over whatever the value, in the past it may have been different, now however it does seem like another viable earning stream for all hubbers, new and old!

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    skyfireposted 15 years ago

    Biggest negative point about kontera is that it is not keeping track of "money earned so far",that's really 1990ish ad network...err..

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    A. Royalposted 15 years ago

    I've always considered Kontera ads irritating as sometimes I mistake them for actual links like when the word walkthrough or something is highlighted. I tend to back away from those pages quicker than many others.

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       thisisoliposted 15 years agoin reply to this

       But it does pay for my Beer

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    cohenj88posted 15 years ago

    Hi guys,
    
    Jonathan from Kontera here. I just wanted to update everyone in this thread that the Kontera minimum payout is no longer $100, we lowered it to $50, across all payment methods.
    
    And just to reiterate what a number of people said, every cent you earn on Kontera rolls over into the next month until your payout. Here at Kontera we're very proud of our exclusive ad inventory of exclusive, high CPC ads from such brands as Blackberry, Volvo, Microsoft, Quaker, and L'Oreal.
    
    We're also very proud of our contextual algorithm which is able to understand a webpage as a whole, leading to more relevant ads with higher CTR; and we're not going to do anything that would jeopardize our relationship with our valued publishers.
    
    Thanks guys,
    
    - Jonathan Cohen
    Kontera Community Manager
    jonathanc@kontera.com

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