Anyone having big drop in views?

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   Margie Lynnposted 21 months ago

   Last three days it seems my views are stuck! They do not move, the first time this has ever happened to me! Anyone else having this problem? Thanks!

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      K S Laneposted 21 months agoin reply to this

      I've noticed a downturn in mine over the past few days too! They're starting to pick up again now, though. I'm hoping it was just a coincidence?

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         Margie Lynnposted 21 months agoin reply to this

         Thanks K S Lane. Mine are not changing at all!

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      Shesabutterflyposted 21 months agoin reply to this

      I have a few articles that are maintaining or gaining traffic, but as a whole my views are dropping. They are still much higher than I've seen in previous years, but that's not saying much as the last 6 months or so have been my best of all the years I've been here. Despite that, views and cpm's are continuing to fall the last month and a half.

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         Margie Lynnposted 21 months agoin reply to this

         Shesabutterfly mine were doing so good and now hitting the bottom!

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            Shesabutterflyposted 21 months agoin reply to this

            I'm thinking mine are going to hit bottom too. I've lost another 100 views in the last day or two and now articles are starting to show blue arrows. Hoping for the best, but preparing for anything at this point.

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      robhamptonposted 21 months agoin reply to this

      Mine are increasing like crazy. That's expected though as my niche is seasonal.

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      liesl5858posted 21 months agoin reply to this

      My views are going down the last few days. I don't know why.

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         theraggededgeposted 21 months agoin reply to this

         You need to get your articles onto the network sites. You have one on Wanderwisdom, so if you can have one moved, you can get the rest moved also.

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            Gloriousconfusionposted 21 months agoin reply to this

            I have a few on niche sites.  How do I get the rest moved there?  I thought you could only request this twice a month.

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         Margie Lynnposted 21 months agoin reply to this

         lies15858 I hope things pick up for you!

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            liesl5858posted 21 months agoin reply to this

            Thank you, Margie Lynn, my views are still down but hope it picks up soon.

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      TessSchlesingerposted 21 months agoin reply to this

      I've had a substantial drop in views for the past few weeks.

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      Larry Fishposted 21 months agoin reply to this

      My problem, Margie, is getting many views in the first place. I wonder if it is that I write a lot of fiction. I can't have a drop in views the way things are going. I have a few regulars, but what do I need to start getting more views?

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         Natalie Frankposted 21 months agoin reply to this

         In general, fiction and creative writing do not get many views here as unless you already have a well known name.  Do you publicize your work on social media?  Basically, you have to do all the work to get followers as opposed to relying on search engines to send people your way.  You need to market and advertise to get the following you want.  Once people know your work and like it they are more likely to read it here and your views will go up.  You might want to consider supplementing your creative writing with articles on a topic you know well, that might show up in search results.  If people read other things you wrote they might also find their way to your creative writing.  Good luck.

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         Margie Lynnposted 21 months agoin reply to this

         Larry Fish Natalie gave great advise! I do not have a clue, maybe others can add some help to us all!

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      liesl5858posted 21 months agoin reply to this

      Mine went down a day or two ago but it started to go up again. It was a big drop though.

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   How to - Answersposted 21 months ago

   Yes my views seem to be 'stuck' this past week too.

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      Margie Lynnposted 21 months agoin reply to this

      This is the first time this has happened, but hopefully, things will pick up for all of us.

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   Natalie Frankposted 21 months ago

   Mine go up and down and often they go up when other people say theirs are going down and vice versa.  There's no rhyme or reason to it from what I can tell.

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      Margie Lynnposted 21 months agoin reply to this

      Natalie thanks for your comment, I will just keep trying!

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   Gregory DeVictorposted 21 months ago

   My traffic fluctuates from day to day. Yesterday it dipped a bit but is up again today. I never know what to expect. The only thing consistent is that is is lousy on Saturdays.

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      DrMark1961posted 21 months agoin reply to this

      Your readers must be out and about. My Saturdays are great since my readers are at home taking care of their fur babies.
      Funny place this internet.

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         Gregory DeVictorposted 21 months agoin reply to this

         That’s probably true. It’s no coincidence that the Target store where I shop as well as the supermarket are always mobbed on Saturdays.

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      Margie Lynnposted 21 months agoin reply to this

      Gregory, Saturdays everyone is out having fun!

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   Kenna McHughposted 21 months ago

   Mine is up and steady. No peaks and valleys.

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      Margie Lynnposted 21 months agoin reply to this

      Kenna that is awesome!

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   Sherry Hewinsposted 21 months ago

   The last couple of days I'm having a surge in traffic and income.

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      Margie Lynnposted 21 months agoin reply to this

      Sherry that is always a blessing, happy for you!

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   jansharesposted 21 months ago

   Anytime the weather is nice out, my views go down a bit. So yes, I've seen that. But they do eventually go back up.

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      Natalie Frankposted 21 months agoin reply to this

      Yes, I guess I'd love to think that people were so interested in my writing that they'll take it to the beach with them (ha!) but realistically if it comes down to reading an essay on psychology or enjoying the great outdoors when it's beautiful out, I know what will win!

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      Margie Lynnposted 21 months agoin reply to this

      janshares thanks for the encouraging comment they eventually go back up!

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   eugbugposted 21 months ago

   Traffic seems to be very slack today, down about 20% for some reason.

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      Margie Lynnposted 21 months agoin reply to this

      eugbug it is Mother's Day weekend so that could account for some of the slack!

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         eugbugposted 21 months agoin reply to this

         Ok, traffic dropped off Friday, so maybe that accounted for some of it.

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   daydreamsposted 21 months ago

   Mine are down in general, but I think it is because the weather is getting nicer. I get most views when it is bad weather, on holidays and at weekends.
   
   I think lots of different things can impact views, it depends what you write about.

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      Margie Lynnposted 21 months agoin reply to this

      daydreams it definitely depends on what we write about!

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    Margie Lynnposted 21 months ago

    Thanks, everyone for all your helpful comments. I appreciate you taking the time to help me!

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    Daniel Mollatposted 21 months ago

    My views down in the past two days by as much as 30%. Is this normal for weekends? I'm beginning to notice a consistent down traffic starting Fridays and all the way to Sunday. Starts to rebound around evening of Sunday.

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       Margie Lynnposted 21 months agoin reply to this

       Hi Daniel, Saturday is not a good day for me! Sunday afternoon things usually pick up! I was just thinking things were really starting to look good for me! Well life is uncertain! Thanks for your comment!

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          Jean Bakulaposted 21 months agoin reply to this

          Once the late spring/summer comes, traffic traditionally slows down, especially on weekends, or as Mother's Day it will be slow tomorrow. I've found my traffic has been slow for about two weeks.

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             Margie Lynnposted 21 months agoin reply to this

             Jean weekend everyone is out having fun! Hope everything picks up for you! Thanks for your comment!

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    eugbugposted 21 months ago

    I also have a drop on Friday. Possibly due to workers and students getting off a bit early, people travelling home for the weekend, going out socialising etc. I find traffic seems to peak mid-week. This Friday though, there was an anomaly and traffic dropped 30% on the previous Friday's traffic.

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       Margie Lynnposted 21 months agoin reply to this

       Eubug the weekdays are definitely better than weekends!

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          eugbugposted 21 months agoin reply to this

          Some of my hubs peak mid week, but those are the ones probably read by students. Others peak at the weekend, mostly gardening and DIY articles.

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    SANJAY LAKHANPALposted 21 months ago

    My views are also down. I don't know why it is so.

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    FatFreddysCatposted 21 months ago

    Traffic has been slipping slowly day by day for me, but I haven't had any time to put into pushing/pimping/promoting any of my stuff, so that's not unusual...

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    Margie Lynnposted 21 months ago

    SANJAY and FatFreddsCat mine went up a little then dropped down. I was doing so much better for weeks then, I was so disappointed in the big drop! Hope things get better for us all! Thanks for your comments!

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    Margie Lynnposted 21 months ago

    Gloriousconfusion, keep submitting, I think it is every 14 days.
    The editors will give you advice on how to get it on the niche site or they may say there are too many hubs on that subject or whatever. Good luck!

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       Gloriousconfusionposted 21 months agoin reply to this

       Thanks, I'll bear that in mind

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    Kenna McHughposted 21 months ago

    For more views, study and understand HP purpose and guidelines. Then, determine how you can best get more viewers. I agree. You can mix it up with fiction and non-fiction articles. I do that. With HP, I recommend doing more non-fiction, how-to, DIY articles than fiction.  As a side note: I have noticed there are platforms available for strictly fiction work. I don't have links to them, but they are out there and promoting themselves on job boards.

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    Gloriousconfusionposted 21 months ago

    How many views do you reckon you need in order to earn a reasonable amount of money?  My views have increased substantially in the last two weeks (almost doubled), but the amount earned weighed against time spent writing, fixing and renewing is peanuts.
    
    I quite enjoy doing it - it's a bit like playing solitaire or sudoku, but I would like a bit of real success too.
    
    Also please can someone tell me whether my rating of 90 will improve if I delete most of my  low scoring hubs which are not attracting much traffic, e.g. poetry, reviews and language.or are not up to standard.

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       DrMark1961posted 21 months agoin reply to this

       Diana, with your qualifications I am sure you could write a lot of articles that would get a lot of page views, but it would be work and not like playing soduku.
       Why not answer some of those questions people asked you when they came in to your office? If the most common question was "Why did I get another parking ticket?" discuss parking strategies in London, how to avoid tickets, what to do if you do get a ticket, etc.
       Check with Google suggest and find the most common things people type in releated to parking tickets. Each of your capsules can be related to another question.
       If you are interested, also download a free keyword program like ubersuggest. Type in "british law" and look at what people are searching for. I am sure there are many subjects that are searched for thousands of itmes a month.
       Every time you think of a new subject, do the same thing. If you answered a lot of questions all day, like I do, this will be easy. Some of my questions are related to dog bites, so I usually say "find a local lawyer". If you know the law in a local area your articles can be helpful, and if the person is not in your area you can tell them "find someone in your area".
       
       As far as your other question, yes, your score will go up if you delete those articles, but it has been pointed out to me that it does not matter. If you get a few views per month it is better than nothing.

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          Natalie Frankposted 21 months agoin reply to this

          Diana,
          
          DrMark gave good advice.  Remember your score doesn't really matter other than how it makes you feel.  It won't change how Google ranks you or how much you earn.  HP is not a site most people will quickly earn a lot of money from, even with regularly increasing views.  Over time if you add well written, interesting articles regularly, especially those that answer common questions, you can earn a decent amount.  But aside from a handful of people who have knowledge in an area that of common interest and have an idea of how to write well with some common SEO strategies, this takes time, effort and publishing a fairly large number of articles to accomplish.  Some people are able to do it with less articles, and for some it takes more but in general don't get caught up in thinking about the number of hours you spend writing vs. the amount you end up making or you will quickly lose your motivation and interest in continuing to do so.  You say you enjoy writing here so just focus on that and writing about what you are excited about and know well.  Then add some SEO strategies such as searchable titles and subtitles and including keywords and placing them strategically and update your articles regularly and you will start seeing your earnings climb.  Take part in the community for the support, connection, feedback and enjoyment to help maintain your motivation to continue writing regularly. The saying, "Slow and steady wins the race," is an apt one for the way things go here at HP.

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             Gloriousconfusionposted 21 months agoin reply to this

             Thanks, Natalie.
             I have taken on board what you say, and will try to act accordingly.  I am regularly updating articles rather than writing new articles at present.  Funnily enough, I find my time is limited since I retired, and I seem to do less and less, instead of more and more.  Pleasant, but not so productive.
             I've saved and printed your advice so that I can work on it .

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                Natalie Frankposted 21 months agoin reply to this

                I'm glad some of the things I said may have given you ideas to add to your already strong writing history such that it produces the results you are looking for.  Good luck to you and enjoy your retirement!  Best wishes.

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          Gloriousconfusionposted 21 months agoin reply to this

          Thanks for your advice DrMark1961. I will have to consider how best to do this,  bearing in mind that I retired 10 years ago and the law is not a static subject - English law is partly based on statute, but also on precedent, so even if the basic law has not changed in 10 years, there could be many decided cases which have moved the boundaries. Giving the basic legal advice without having kept up with the ground-changing precedents could lead to costly mistakes. I used to keep up with the current law in my specialism, attending expensive courses to update my knowledge, but that all stopped when I retired.  Life has moved on (and so has my memory!).
          
          Nonetheless, I will think carefully about your advice to see whether there are ways to use it. I've saved and printed it out

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             DrMark1961posted 21 months agoin reply to this

             Best of luck to you! Not an easy task to take on, but one that I find very interesting. Veterinary medicine has changed a lot too since the 70s when I started college so I never write an article without doing a lot of reading. Things have moved on, but we can too. (At least at this point.)

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    Daniel Mollatposted 21 months ago

    Mine continues to drop without let up. Is anyone experiencing a continued drop or are you guys seeing improvement in your views in the past two days? As of this morning my views is 62% down from a week ago.
    
    Is there something I need to do to get my views up?

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       Margie Lynnposted 21 months agoin reply to this

       Daniel posting a new hub and editing my current hubs helps me sometimes!

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       robhamptonposted 21 months agoin reply to this

       My articles are seasonal, but traffic is definitely up since last year. Last 7 days have brought 29,000 views (not impressions) Impressions were around 16,000. Traffic is still up over 100% from last year at this time. Happy!

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    Sherry Hewinsposted 21 months ago

    My views are way up, almost the best they've ever been in the six plus years I have been here. I hope I am not the anomaly.

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       Natalie Frankposted 21 months agoin reply to this

       Mine were up for a couple of days the very beginning of the month then down until today and seem to be creeping back up.  Good luck.

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          Margie Lynnposted 21 months agoin reply to this

          Natalie mine are creeping too! I mean creeping!  Thanks for your help!

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       Margie Lynnposted 21 months agoin reply to this

       Awesome Sherry!

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    Margie Lynnposted 21 months ago

    Thanks everyone for the great advice!

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    TessSchlesingerposted 21 months ago

    I am getting more concerned. My hubscore hasn't dropped. My viewings have. What's happening?

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       Polly Cposted 21 months agoin reply to this

       My views are pretty low this morning, I've noticed them dipping particularly at weekends. It's Bank Holiday weekend in the UK plus quite nice weather (for a change!) so people are doing other stuff; last weekend the Royal Wedding.  I put it down to people doing other stuff and enjoying the summer, as I'm sure they are elsewhere as well? Though I'm no expert!

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          TessSchlesingerposted 21 months agoin reply to this

          Nope. I don't mind a day or two's dip. Mine have dipped for the last three weeks and getting lower. I know I haven't been writing on hp and I wonder if that has anything to do with it.

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             Shesabutterflyposted 21 months agoin reply to this

             I have not wrote anything new in months and that has never been an issue in the past. My views were down a third yesterday from last week, and this morning it's down by over half!
             
             I don't know if it's because the data stats are not updating properly or if those are true numbers but it is definitely concerning to me.
             
             I know it's a holiday weekend, but my highest ranked article always does good this time of year and it has dropped almost all its traffic. My other top article has a blue arrow and doesn't even have a third of the views it had yesterday or even a few days ago. In my opinion this is more than simply being a holiday or the stats not updating properly. My views have been dropping for weeks with this week being the worst one yet.

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                DrMark1961posted 21 months agoin reply to this

                If your traffic has been from Google, try to find out your articles ranking. Has it fallen significantly? My articles are still getting traffic just fine so I do not think there is a problem with reporting.

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                   Shesabutterflyposted 21 months agoin reply to this

                   Most of my traffic is from Google. My inital thought was that I must have drastically fallen in rank, but that is not what I'm seeing when I search Google. I searched incognito as well as on startpage and both articles are still number one. Despite that, my article that was doing so well for many months now has less than 100 views and is falling every day. I was thinking about asking someone else to search to see if it showed up differently for them, but I thought incognito and startpage did not store memory and therefore would show results as most of the world would see them...I've searched several different keywords as different variations usually produce similar results and they all showed my articles as number one or on the first page where they were before this major drop in traffic.
                   
                   I do not know what to think anymore, but if my traffic keeps dropping I'm in trouble. I was already making less than the previous two months with the low cpm's that I cannot afford to lose any more traffic. I would need more than 4k in impressions to even come close to what I had last month. And last month was a drop in views/impressions/cpm's/pay than the previous month. At this rate I will stop making payout. It's all very frustrating.
                   
                   Edit: I just tried comparing my views to my traffic stats and there is data that does not add up. I do not know if the numbers have ever equalled the same as this is the first time I've actually talled everything up, but my total views for today do not match the traffic sources from today. They also do not match up with the last seven, last 30 days, or ever. Although I suppose if traffic data is on a running time line rather than a set one the numbers should be different?

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                      DrMark1961posted 21 months agoin reply to this

                      If it is not a Google issue it must be the stats. I cannot think why you would have such a drastic fall in income.
                      Are the page views you are seeing in your Google Analytics account even close to the HP numbers? (They are never the same, for various reasons, but mine are never that different.)

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                         Shesabutterflyposted 21 months agoin reply to this

                         How do I look for page views on Google Analytics? I was comparing the stats just from the data from HP. I was looking at my stats page and then going to the traffic sources page and comparing numbers that way. My total views for all my articles was significantly different than the number of total traffic sources that HP had listed. I'll admit I do not use Google Analytics much, because I have never figured out how to use it properly. However, I think I might have found what you are talking about. Let me know if it's not right please.
                         
                         On my Google Analytics home page it shows just under 200 visitors today with a 60.6% decrease from yesterday. Which is a larger drop from yesterday's percentage drop of just over 20. Although it's still early so I'm hoping that the visitor number will go up and the percentage will go down a bit.
                         
                         Analytic's number of total views is about 100 below what is showing for Google traffic on HP. If I add up all the different Google sites/domains (google.ca for example) HP shows over 200 more Google views than the analytics site. Not sure if I am suppose to include all the different sites or just google dot com. If I go to the 7 day view in analytics it shows 1500 more views than HP (just google.com), but if I add all the google domains HP shows 2200+ extra google views than the analytics page. Does any of that make sense?? I do not know which way to compare the numbers, but they are off by more than 100 and even more than a thousand in some cases. Not sure what you would consider close in this case.
                         
                         I found how to find views for specific pages I believe as well. Some pages are showing very similar views if I only go by google dot com (again I'm not sure what sources of traffic Google Analytics tracks). However, other pages have a difference of almost or over half with HP showing more views than Google Analytics in some cases and in others Google Analytics has more than HP. There is no rhyme or reason to any of these numbers in regards to differences as far as I can tell. But again I'm still trying to learn how to properly use the analytics site and have not taken as much time as I probably should to interpret the data.
                         
                         I use the HP program so I never really spent too much time on the analytics site except to watch the live overview which I'm watching right now. I'm interested to see if the views I'm seeing on analytics right now will update once the HP stats update. Right now mine are saying from 3hrs ago and earlier, so I'll wait until they update and compare.
                         
                         Edit: I found the pages page and the views from the 25th match up pretty close to what I am seeing today in HP for the 1 day data. The total views are lower, but I'm assuming that's because HP has a rolling time and the numbers are not from just the 25th like they are on the analytics page.

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                            DrMark1961posted 21 months agoin reply to this

                            I do not think they will ever correlate exactly, but it should give you a rough idea if HP stats are way off. I look at the Home page on GA and can see my page views (users) on there. (I think those user numbers include all of your other visitors, not just google.com but google.com.in, etc.)
                            If your HP numbers are still higher than your GA numbers that does not give any indication of why your views have dropped so much on that hub you mentioned. Is that hub no longer showing up on the bottom of the home page (under "What pages do your users visit?" chart)?

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                               Shesabutterflyposted 21 months agoin reply to this

                               Hmmm. I don't know then. GA is lower, especially if GA calculates all traffic sources but not by much for the individual pages. All the articles in questions show up on that chart too. Not sure why the total views on GA are a couple hundred lower. Oh well, it is what it is I guess.

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                TessSchlesingerposted 21 months agoin reply to this

                So we're on the same page.
                
                I wonder if Google has changed its algorithm or of Maven is doing some sifting...

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             Polly Cposted 21 months agoin reply to this

             I would guess it's probably not that, as I didn't write on Hubpages for a long time, maybe 3 years or so. I didn't even pay attention to comments properly or anything.  Then I did take a look and realised that my traffic and earnings had improved  in my absence, so I  decided to come back and write some more stuff.

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          Gloriousconfusionposted 21 months agoin reply to this

          I have been doing a lot of updating in the last 2 months.  My income roughly doubled during April/May 2018, and has roughly doubled again since early May.  I haven't written any new hubs during that period.  The gardening ones are the most popular at this time of year.
          
          My income is still appallingly low for the amount of hours I have put in - probably about $1-2  an hour, but my earnings have jumped from just over $40 for last month's income to what is likely to be  $60-65 this month.
          
          Now I'm getting the hang of what's required, I'm hoping to do a bit better..I'm also going to delete /unpublish some of my unpopular stuff which is never going to make the grade - I think they pull down my average, and make me appear worse than I really am.  I still feel much saddened that we can't use Amazon capsules to earn a bit more income, but I'm sure the powers-that-be know what they are doing, and they are offering plenty of advice, even if it's not what I want to hear!

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             DrMark1961posted 21 months agoin reply to this

             You can use Amazon capsules. Correct me if I am wrong, but I do not think you were making any sales from them when they were not related; they were affecting your page rank, so I do not think making them of use to the reader is going to hurt your income on this site.

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    Sherry Hewinsposted 21 months ago

    Slight drop today, about 10%. It is a 3-day weekend here in the US.

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