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   William F. Torpeyposted 5 years ago

   I had earning a long time ago but, somehow, they disappeared. I am a computer dummie so I gave up trying to figure out how to get it back. The first two times were very difficult and twice is quite enough -- so I have no account and I no longer make a dime (I did get two payments over the years, but i would never recommend Hubpages to anyone now. If they can't just pay you the way they promise then ... forget it !!!

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      Madeleine Claysposted 5 years agoin reply to this

      William, I too am challenged by learning new computer programs so don't worry, you're not alone. Psycheskinner and theraggededge appear to have offered you some good feedback. Take it one step at a time and you will get it. I speak from experience. There are some very kind and helpful people on these forums, but unfortunately there are others who are not so kind. It is always best to appreciate the former ones and ignore the latter ones, as I have learned to do. One step at a time...you will get it!

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      TIMETRAVELER2posted 5 years agoin reply to this

      You've been very vague about your situation.  Have you been writing consistently on this site or did you stop writing and then return years later?  Have you taken the time to read the guidelines in the learning center about how to earn money on HP?  How many articles have you posted?  Did you ever apply for Adsense and, if so, were you accepted.  There are rules in place that all of us must follow and it is your responsibility to learn about and follow them.  Money only disappears if an account lies dormant for more than 6 months, so this may explain where your money went.  Also, there are payout limits you must meet before you receive any money.  For example, on HP you won't get paid until you have earned atl east $50.  For Adsense it's $100.  The amounts you earn keep adding up until you meet those limits and then are sent either to Paypal or your checking account.  Have you provided the info for these accounts so that the money can be sent to you?  The bottom line is that you must have both an HP and Adsense account before you can earn money.  So, if for some reason you do not have Adsense, you would not be able to earn.  Answer these questions and do the research and you'll soon find out what the problem is, but I guarantee that it is NOT that HP doesn't pay as promised.  They are excellent at making sure people get properly paid for the work they do.

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         William F. Torpeyposted 5 years agoin reply to this

         TIMETRAVELER 2 -- i did sign up for Adsense and I did receive two payments but my account disappeared. Then I signed up again and had $80 in my account but my account disappeared again. That's when I gave up (a long time ago.) I have no intention of running around any more circles. If Hubpages can't make payments without making me run around in circles then I just say "forget it." I don't care that much about the few dollars involved, but I have lost a lot of respect for the Hubpages site. I intend to keep the 158 hubs I have (I haven't written any new hubs for a long time) but I do not intend to run around in circles to sign up for Adsense again (I have no idea why they cut me off TWICE. Twice is enough !!!

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      greenmindposted 5 years agoin reply to this

      Aside from questions of tracking down your past earnings, you can make a meaningful difference in future earnings if you start submitting your articles to the niche sites. These are specialty sites under the HP umbrella that get significantly more traffic. You can apply at the top of your article in the "Author Center" section. If your article is accepted, it will almost certainly start getting more visitors.

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         William F. Torpeyposted 5 years agoin reply to this

         I have no intention of signing up ...for the third time ... with Adsense, greenmind. That's one hoop to far. If Hubpages can't fulfill their promise that's their problem now, not mine. (But, thanks, I do appreciate your concern.

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      robhamptonposted 5 years agoin reply to this

      Sorry to hear of this. Sounds like an adsense issue, not sure. I've read the whole thread and understand your post as you were simply looking for some answers. I think it was absurd that Kenna Mchugh reported you. I think that people, including me, just don't understand why it's HP fault. I also think many others "jumped on the bandwagon" to try to make you look foolish for asking a question. Your articles seem pretty good, although not many are "featured". Most are on the HP site, not niche. Maybe because of the adsense issue. It must be frustrating. Keep trying to reinstate your adsense account and then get some of those articles featured on niche sites. Best of luck and keep us posted as to what happens!

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         lobobrandonposted 5 years agoin reply to this

         I only read through the 4 pages because I saw a reply from Rob on this thread. But this time I have to disagree, every single person on this thread tried to help A LOT. Not one person tried to make the OP look foolish, but he did try and make everyone who helped him look foolish.

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   DrMark1961posted 5 years ago

   Did you ever sign up for the HP earning program or are you still using Adsense? You have no account? Does that mean that Google deleted your Adsense account?

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      William F. Torpeyposted 5 years agoin reply to this

      My account disappeared once and I went through a lot of trouble to get it back -- then it disappeard AGAIN !!! I give up (and I blame huboages,)

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   psycheskinnerposted 5 years ago

   The fact is they do pay exactly what and when they promise, but some people struggle to keep track of it.  Just go here to see what was paid: https://hubpages.com/my/earnings/history
   
   If you didn't receive it, the odds are your bank details are entered incorrectly.

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      William F. Torpeyposted 5 years agoin reply to this

      No, psycheskinner, I know what was paid (I got two payments, but my Adsense account disappeared. The first time I spent a lot of time and trouble to get it back bu this time I am not jumping  through any more hoops. I blame hubpages, not Adsense.

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   William F. Torpeyposted 5 years ago

   No. I had an account and received two payments -- but they somehow stopped it. Then I went through a whole lot of trouble and got it back. The it disappeared again when I had something like $80 dollars in it. I guess it's called Adsense. But it is so much trouble trying to figure out how to get it back again (probably only to lose it again) that I gave up. I am a computer dummie so it's really insane to keep getting it and having it disappear only to spend lots of  time and energy trying to figure out how to get it back again. It's not worth all the trouble (especially when I can't rely on them not to make it disappear every few months. The least they should  do is give me the $80 dollars (but I'll never see that.)

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      DrMark1961posted 5 years agoin reply to this

      If you will take a few minutes of your precious time and learn a little bit this will be pretty easy. All you have to do is change from Adsense to the HP payment program. It is easy.

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         William F. Torpeyposted 5 years agoin reply to this

         Yes, DrMark1961, my time is precious. I signed up once for Adsense and it disappeared. Then I had to sign up again -- and it disappeared again. As fare as I'm concerned I blame hubpages. Why does everybody seem to think hubpages is blameless (Why doesn't hubpages pay (why do they shuffle the responsibility over to Adsense (whatever that is?)

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            TIMETRAVELER2posted 5 years agoin reply to this

            Don't you think it's a bit strange that you are the only person complaining about not being paid and are also blaming HP for all of your problems when you obviously are refusing to do what you're supposed to do to be able to earn here? Be reminded that HP is a business, not a parent.  If you want to work for them, you have to follow their rules.  If you don't, then stop complaining and just leave the site.  You can get help here if you want to take it, but if you think you're going to get sympathy from people who clearly understand that your thinking is totally wrong, good luck with that!

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   theraggededgeposted 5 years ago

   I'm not sure whether you are complaining about HubPages or Adsense. They are two separate entities.
   
   What 'account' are you referring to?
   
   Did you check your balance history via the link that psycheskinner gave you?
   
   1. You need to check if your Paypal account is active.
   2. You need to make sure it is linked to HP. Scroll to the bottom of this page: https://hubpages.com/my/earnings/affiliate/
   3. Enter the email address that you use for Paypal.
   
   Then you are good to go as far as HubPages earnings are concerned.
   
   Any problems, contact team@hubpages.com
   
   Okay...
   
   Adsense is separate from Hubpages, so where is the $80? In HubPages or Adsense?
   
   Adsense is notoriously difficult to deal with but if you can see the $80, then you can access your account. Adsense don't pay out until you have reached a balance of $100. Make sure your bank account is linked to Adsense and just wait until you reach payout.

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      William F. Torpeyposted 5 years agoin reply to this

      Thanks, theraggededge. I had adsense, I  believe, but I never had nor do I want Paypal. As I said, I received two payments, but I'm not going to spend hours trying to figure out how to sign up for all the nonsense. They can keep they're $80.00 If Hubpages can't make it simple then forget it. As I said I had it twice -- that's enough.

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         theraggededgeposted 5 years agoin reply to this

         It's a condition (and has been since the beginning) that you need a Paypal account in order to get paid.
         
         It's not nonsense, it's normal. I'm not sure why you have this hostility. Just because you don't understand it, doesn't mean there's anything wrong with it.
         
         How simple do you want it to be? All you do is open a PP account and add the same email address to HubPages. If you haven't the motivation to take the time to learn a little bit about how it works, then you'll have to forgo your own earnings
         
         Oh well... we've tried to help you.

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            TIMETRAVELER2posted 5 years agoin reply to this

            +1000000000000000000000000000

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            William F. Torpeyposted 5 years agoin reply to this

            I never  had a  PayPal account (but I did receive two payments from Adsense before they cut me off (twice.) Hubpages claims that if you sign up with them you can make money (Hubpages should be responsible for payments -- not some other entity.)

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   psycheskinnerposted 5 years ago

   If you look at the link I gave you and there is a payout there you didn't receive, email and ask why--Hubstaff will tell you.
   
   If they are stealing from you I will eat my hat, or cat, or a non-lewd hyperbolic object of your choice.

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      DrMark1961posted 5 years agoin reply to this

      I will also take a plate of that if he is being cheated.

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      William F. Torpeyposted 5 years agoin reply to this

      No, psyschskinner and DrMark1961, I never said there is a payment I didn't receive. I received two payments of $100 and I had $80 earned before my account disappeared (at no fault of my own.) I simply refuse to go through more hoops to sign up again. Enough is enough !!! But I blame hubpages for the problem. I signed up for hubpages years ago (and they claim you can make money on hubpages (but the trouble is that hubpages doesn't pay anybody -- you have to get your money from Adsense or through Pay Pal. I don't have a PayPal account (never did) I had Adsens (twice) but (somehow) they made it disappear when I had $80 in the account..) i'm not going to sign up for a third time just so they can make my account disappear for the third time !!!

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   quotationsposted 5 years ago

   If you go to this link it should show you if you have any earnings that have not been paid out: https://hubpages.com/my/profile/securit … %20History
   
   You may be pleasantly surprised. If you have a balance of over $50, you can get it paid out by associating a paypal email account with hubpages. As far as I know this is the only way you can get paid out.
   
   However if you don't have a paypal account there may be some work arounds. But the first thing is to determine if there is some money sitting there.

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      William F. Torpeyposted 5 years agoin reply to this

      I don't have a Paypal account (never did have one.) I have no intention of getting one -- and I also have no intention of signing up with Adsense for the THIRD TIME !!!  I signed up with Hubpages some 7 years ago. I have lost any confidence or respect for Hubpages.

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   DrMark1961posted 5 years ago

   It only takes about 10 minutes to open a Paypal account. If you do not like the bank then all you have to do is transfer all of your money out of there to your regular bank each month.
   Your articles are interesting enough that they could be earning you something here. I am not sure why you are being so negative about the potential earnings.

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      Jean Bakulaposted 5 years agoin reply to this

      I have to agree, everyone here gave you solid advice. You can have the Paypal account only to get the HP payments, and transfer whatever you make every month, every penny. I have been here for 8 yrs. and this site doesn't cheat people. Don't be so afraid of Paypal, just link it to an account so each month on the 28th you transfer your money from PP to yourself. It's easy.
      
      If you didn't write here in a long time, the standards are much higher, but so are the rewards. Why don't you try again?

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      William F. Torpeyposted 5 years agoin reply to this

      DrMark1961 -- I have lost all confidence and respect for Hubpages. They advertise you can earn money on Hubpages (not on Paypal or Adsense.) I am not jumping on any more hoops for the few dollars they offer (but don't pay,)

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         DrMark1961posted 5 years agoin reply to this

         Your comments are just amazing. Are you the kind of person that takes his car to the Ford dealership when your new Chevy needs a scheduled oil change? That is exactly what you are doing when you complain about Hubpages not paying money that is due you from Adsense.
         (I have an idea. If your bank account is at Bank of America I suggest you go down to Chase and tell them you want to withdraw some money from that accout. Be sure to let us know how that works out for you.)

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            quotationsposted 5 years agoin reply to this

            If I am understanding correctly, his adsense account somehow got cancelled and so he can't get paid by hubpages. Plus he objects to the fact that he would need a paypal account to get paid.
            
            There are at least two problems here. If I understand him correctly, he preferred the adsense program because you can get paid without a paypal account and he doesnt like hubpages policy of only paying with paypal.
            
            What he does not seem to understand is that without adsense he cannot earn on hubpages, and so hubpages policy for how it pays out the hubpage earnings is actually irrelevant. He is not in a position to earn anything right now.

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            Jean Bakulaposted 5 years agoin reply to this

            Dr. Mark,
            I read your post and it reminded me of a funny situation. I was a manager in an in store bank inside a supermarket. One day a crabby woman came to me and dumped a wilted cabbage on the counter of the teller line at the bank. She was angry and wanted a fresher, cheaper or free one. I kept explaining how the supermarket customer service desk was to the right of the bank counter, but she kept shoving this cabbage at me. Finally I didn't want to take anyone off the teller line, the bank was busy cashing paychecks for the workers of the store, so I walked her to the supermarket customer service desk.
            
            You can't reason with some people, especially when they are upset.

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   FatFreddysCatposted 5 years ago

   A self proclaimed "computer dummy" who doesn't have PayPal, and apparently, doesn't want to learn how to use it...yet somehow, it's still HubPages' fault that he's not getting paid. OK.
   
   

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      William F. Torpeyposted 5 years agoin reply to this

      Hubpages advertising you can write on Hubpages and make money (they don't say you have to go to some other  site to get paid (Adsense or Paypal.)  As I said, I signed up for Adsense TWICE --  and that account DISAPPEARED TWICE. Twice is my limit !!!

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         FatFreddysCatposted 5 years agoin reply to this

         ...then your problem is with AdSense (which is owned by Google), not with HubPages. Which is what the nice people in this thread have been trying to explain to you.
         
         ...but you've clearly made up your mind already that this is all some sort of vast criminal conspiracy, so just keep sticking your fingers in your ears and going "Lalalalala I CAN'T HEEEEAAARRR YOUUUUU," knock yourself out.

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    Dolores Monetposted 5 years ago

    It can be very frustrating to learn about rules and changes, William. I am sorry that you are upset but I recall starting here was a bit of a struggle. You just need some patience.
    
    If you are concerned about Paypal and don't like linking up your bank account to PP, you can open another account at your bank that it just for PP. That way you can feel safe about your other money.
    
    You can sign up for Hubpages ads. It pays better. But you still have to sign up for adsence.
    
    Then go over all your old hubs and refresh them. If you have not touched them for years, they get stale and fall off the search pages.
    
    My advise to anyone who is frustrated about anything is to walk away for a day or two and come back with a cleared mind.

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       gerimcclymposted 5 years agoin reply to this

       Thank you, Dolores, for your kind words and advice. It is helpful and encouraging for all of us.

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       William F. Torpeyposted 5 years agoin reply to this

       I appreciate your kind words Dolores Monet, but I have lost any respect I had for HubPages. I will keep the 158 hubs that are on my account but I no longer intend to deal with a site that I do not respect.

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    psycheskinnerposted 5 years ago

    I mean, sorry -- that's user error.  Suggesting Hubpages was dishonest in any way was incorrect. I get that these things are very frustrating but you can't go around blaming third parties for your problems with Adsense.
    
    That's like being dumped on the ground by a broken saddle-strap and blaming the horse.

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    theraggededgeposted 5 years ago

    Obviously no one here can help you because you have decided you won't help yourself.
    
    HubPages is not responsible for Adsense earnings. HubPages just provides the platform. You can choose to earn via Adsense (which you did) or you can choose to earn via Hubpages.
    
    Adsense only simply requires an Adsense account linked to HP and a bank account to receive payment.
    
    Hubpages also requires a linked Adsense account, plus Paypal to receive earnings.
    
    If you are unable to understand and apply those conditions then you won't get paid. It's as simple as that. HubPages is not going to change the conditions in order to accommodate your lack of motivation to sort it out.
    
    Respect is irrelevant here. HubPages is an entity, not a person. It doesn't care.

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    William F. Torpeyposted 5 years ago

    Hubpages doesn't care -- that's obvious. Hubpages  is very clever -- they say "you can earn" money, but they don't pay a dime  (they send you off to Adsense (who then cuts you off -- twice !!!) Don't bother responding. I won't be adding  any new hubs or signing up for a third time to Adsense only to get cut off again.

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    psycheskinnerposted 5 years ago

    We have led your horse to water.

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    EricFarmer8xposted 5 years ago

    You either need to resolve whatever AdSense issues you have by contacting Google or sign up with PayPal to get paid that way. Nothing else anybody can tell you. I don't know what issues you have with your AdSense account but you need to address something. You are trying to blame HubPages for a Google issue. This wont go anywhere.
    
    If your account is banned you can send an appeal to AdSense. This article shows how.

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       Titiaposted 5 years agoin reply to this

       Only signing up with Paypal won't help this guy. The only way to sort this out is to address Google about his Adsense account.

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          William F. Torpeyposted 5 years agoin reply to this

          Google is not the problem. Hubpages is the problem. You folks can't see the forest for the trees !!!

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             quotationsposted 5 years agoin reply to this

             Maybe if you explained better we would understand. You said you had an adsense but lost it. I assume you mean that your account was terminated.
             
             It is a term of use on hubpages, that in order to earn money from what you publish you need to have an adsense account. This has to do with how hubpages makes money and is also a quality control measure. Since adsnse vets who can have an account, weeding out those who don't have an account allows hubpages to prevent spammers and others. Not that you are one, but in general this kind of policy makes it easier for hubpages to keep bad guys from infiltrating the site and ruining it for everyone.
             
             It is also a term of service that you need a paypal account to get paid. This allows hubpages to cut costs by not issuing checks and not having to rely on a separate system to issue electronic transfers to thousands of different separate bank account. They just transfer the money to paypal and that's it.
             
             These are the terms you agreed to when you signed up. We all live with it and I have gotten consistent payments. I actually love hubpages.
             
             You say that adsense is not the problem, but if you don't have an adsense account then that surely is the fundamental problem. I am not sure why you feel hubpages is cheating you or treating you unfairly. What have they done that does not match the terms of service that you agreed to?

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    CYong74posted 5 years ago

    Those of you who write on such matters should submit a new hub to the up and coming, or down and sinking, YouMeMindBody.
    
    The hoopy syndrome of being furious for the sake of being furious.

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    Kenna McHughposted 5 years ago

    William,
    I can understand why you hate to waste time. Ignorance is a waste of time. Start with the word "ignorance," look it up in a good dictionary, make ten or more sentences until you got the meaning. Understanding the word will save you a lot of time because this thread, though hilarious, is a waste of time - all our time.

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    Kenna McHughposted 5 years ago

    Are you having fun yet, William?

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    FatFreddysCatposted 5 years ago

    This thread is rapidly approaching Unintentional Comedy Gold status.

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       EricFarmer8xposted 5 years agoin reply to this

       Well I tried to help. Anything else out of me requires too much patience. I don't know how some of you do it. *Claps

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    William F. Torpeyposted 5 years ago

    You folks are being led around by the tail by hubpages. I've made myself perfectly clear. You might try re-reading my posts. I had an Adsense account and received two payments of  $100. I then accumulated $80 but, as I said, my Adsense account disappeared -- twice !!!  If you guys can't understand English you might consult dictionary.com

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       theraggededgeposted 5 years agoin reply to this

       And that is HubPages' fault how? Do you think HubPages reached out to Google Adsense and told them to 'lose' your account? Don't be silly.
       
       I also love HP, I hit over four figures three months running over the winter.
       
       I also get paid via Adsense every three months. Once it's set up correctly, there's nothing else to do except write.

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          William F. Torpeyposted 5 years agoin reply to this

          Not true. As I said I originally signed up with Adsense -- but that disappeared -- twice !!! How many hoops would you like me to fly through? Typically corporate skulduggery.

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             theraggededgeposted 5 years agoin reply to this

             You do know that Adsense and HubPages are not the same company? So how is losing your Adsense account HubPages' fault?
             
             Did you forget your log-in details? Accounts don't just disappear. I've had mine for 11 years.
             
             Do you know, William, that you haven't answered one single question that we've asked in order to help you.
             
             If you chose to stick with Adsense, rather than the HubPages earnings, then your beef is with Google Adsense, not with HubPages.
             
             Have you contacted the team to ask for their help? team@hubpages.com

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    Kenna McHughposted 5 years ago

    I reported William because he is misleading us and stirring the pot. Just leave him alone. Best bet, he is a psychopath or just plain stupid.

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       quotationsposted 5 years agoin reply to this

       He was actually one of the first people I followed when I joined hubpages, and I have always found his hubs interesting. I am not sure why he is upset. But I don't think he is trying to be malicious.

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          Madeleine Claysposted 5 years agoin reply to this

          I agree, quotations.
          
          William is frustrated because he has tried several times to figure something out which he has acknowledged (by calling himself a computer dummie) is challenging for him. I know what that feels like and I'm sure others on here do, too.
          
          It is so disappointing to see long-time hubbers on here --people who others look up to--respond to William in such a hostile manner.

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             DrMark1961posted 5 years agoin reply to this

             Claiming that you are a computer dummy and then calling everyone stupid for trying to help is not normal. (This is one of his comments: "If you guys can't understand English you might consult dictionary.com") What is disappointing is people coming on here and telling the rest of us that actions and statements like his are perfectly excusable.

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    Kenna McHughposted 5 years ago

    He writes well. His attitude doesn't make sense unless he's been hacked.

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    CYong74posted 5 years ago

    I get the same feeling too. His responses are practically a SEO spam of the keyphrase, my AdSense account disappeared.
    
    Either that, or there is some bigger story behind everything. Gut feel is that "William" expects HubPages to intervene in his issues with AdSense, and is angry because HubPages refuses to.

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       lobobrandonposted 5 years agoin reply to this

       No benefit to anyone but HP if it's a SEO scam for the keyword my Adsense account disappeared because they will get the traffic and HP and only HP has their ads on the forums.

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    William F. Torpeyposted 5 years ago

    Anyone who thinks hubpages is blameless because it has shuffled off its responsibilities to Adsense is not thinking too clearly. It's corporate legerdemain . You need not respond; this is my last word.

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       theraggededgeposted 5 years agoin reply to this

       It's your responsibility to understand how to run your own accounts.

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       lobobrandonposted 5 years agoin reply to this

       First of all, HubPages says you can earn on their site. You got that right! But you need to find out how the rest of the process works because HubPages never said you will earn, they say you can earn.
       
       But, I get totally understand your problem, I read through every single post here. The other day I went to a local farm and my Porsche ran out of fuel... The old farmer asked me what was wrong. I said my tank is empty. He said not a problem, he'd get ol' Joe to fix it up. We had some fantastic roast pork and then I go to my car, it won't start! Ol' Joe filled my tank up with water because that's what tanks are for.
       
       I wrote letter after letter and called all the Porsche representatives I knew. I kept telling them it was their fault that their engine does not run on water. I even took them to court... and lost. But no, they didn't cover my lawyers expenses nor the damages.
       
       Hubpages is the Porsche car. What you fill it with is up to you. They say you need to put in gas if you want to drive. As long as you do that you drive fine and cover miles. In the same way, as long as you have a working Adsense account you earn fine. HubPages has no control of Adsense they are two different entities .HubPages provides the platform for your content which earns from Google Ads placed within it by Adsense.
       
       Forget the whole Paypal issue and the HubPages Ads Program which is amazing. If you cannot figure out Adsense, don't bother with this. First, sort out your Adsense issue. Begin by reading this as pointed out by Eric: http://tutorialfaq.com/appeal-get-banne … ount-back/ If your account was lost two times, it is your fault. It's a one time set up, even if you lost your login it should go on working fine, you somehow managed to fill your tank with water and broke it all up. Breaking it impossible unless you used that same Adsense account on another website that publishes material that is not safe for people of all ages. 
       
       Adsense has a policy where you cannot create a second account once your first account has been banned. So you definitely did not get a ban (unless you changed your home address to create the second account). But if you did not get a ban, then why did you disassociate your Adsense account from Hubpages? These are questions you and only you can answer.
       
       It's very unlikely that your account was banned again for the second time. So what do you really mean by lost your Adsense account? Did you lose it or did you go into your Earnings settings here on HP and delete your association?
       
       Either way, Hubpages does not owe you 80 USD, Adsense does. But, as per Adsense policy, you did agree that they withhold earnings until you reach 100 USD, so anything below that will be forfeited if your account is banned/lost. If you lose your bank account details and have no way to trace it, you don't expect to be able to withdraw any money from it.
       
       Saying Hubpages owes you 80 is the same as me saying Porsche owes me 1000's.

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    psycheskinnerposted 5 years ago

    We have determined his problem and explained how to fix it.  We can explain it to him, but we cannot understand it for him.
    
    And if he insists on repeatedly coming back to accuse our host here of theft and fraud when it is clearly not true, I don't see the point in continuing to lay out the welcome mat.

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    CYong74posted 5 years ago

    The thread starter is not looking for help. He is seeking agreement and support for the convoluted financial conspiracy he has dreamt of. Thus why his antagonistic attitude, his ludicrous accusations, and his overall evasiveness.
    
    At the moment, he probably thinks we are all in it too. Somehow we split the loot between us.
    
    The whole story about frustration with online systems, IT dummy and what have you, is also likely something else he cooked up to substantiate his wild theories.
    
    Personally, I don't see the point in staying cordial too.

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    Wesman Todd Shawposted 5 years ago

    I've been on this website, and now network of sites, for more than 9 years. Sometimes I publish lots of stuff, other times I've not logged in, even once, for nearly 2 years at a time. My income from my work here steadily increases.
    
    My earnings are not 'so called.' They are deposited into my PayPal account on the 28th day of every month, and I spend them.

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    Kenna McHughposted 5 years ago

    CYong, I agree.

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