After much suffering with the new forums format, and observing and analyzing, I came to the conclusion that it is possible to have my cake and eat it, too - if HP developers will cooperate.
The problem: Replies made in threaded view look absolutely unconnected in chronological view, up to the point of the thread being unreadable.
Proposed solution: Change the coding, so when user replies to a particular post in threaded view, this reply is shown with the quote of the post they replied to, in chronological view. In other words, make a reply button in threaded view to work exactly like quote button when translated into chronological view - unless user replies to the original post, then no quote is needed.
This does not make any visible changes to the threaded view, and likely will make chronological view much more readable.
I agree that the new format makes it far harder to connect the replies in the threaded view, (to be honest I far preferred the old format). I think your idea for a change of format that shows the actual quote would be a winner Misha.
In the chronological view we're planning to add an "in reply to" link that will take you directly to the post that is being replied to, as well as a way to see the text of the replied to post quickly as a tool tip (without actually going to the post). I think that should help solve the problem you're having Misha.
As someone that reads a lot more than I post, I find the threaded view to be much easier to use. I can see how the chronological view might be preferable for people that are actively participating in a fast moving conversation, however.
I think we should only have one view and that view should be the threaded view. People are just slow at accepting change. Then if two hubbers want to go off on a tangent, they don't bother the rest of the thread. That's what I think.
Some of us (a lot of us, judging by the other comments) find the threaded view difficult to use. That doesn't necessarily mean we're "slow at accepting change".
It would take only a minor tweak by HP admin to ensure that posts made while in threaded view become reader-friendly to those of us who prefer the chronological view, thus ensuring that both preferences are accommodated.
Sorry Sue but I agree with Empress doesn't have a thing to do with being "slow at accepting change" it could be that the change ISN"T a good change especially if so many people are having so many issues dealing with the new thread
The value is that we're not lumbered with long, unnecessary quotes. It's quicker, clearer and easy to follow as long as you don't switch back and forth between the two views. I wish we could just have the new threaded view. It works fine for me. And get rid of the chrono-view.
I am in agreement with this suggestion as well. I remember Paul Deeds mentioned with the last update that this should reduce unnecessary quoting.
A newspaper site that I visit and comment on, though, simply adds reply to postername: when you hit the reply button. The text is a link back to the post that was replied to. This should be extremely simple to code into the site without messing anything up, and doesn't add any extra quoting.
I really don't see the problem with the threaded view as long as you don't use the chronological view to confuse you. We should have only one view, the threaded view. Once you get used to it it's really easy.
Looks like either I don't understand what you are saying though, or you did not understand what I was asking for. Just to make sure it is me who is misunderstanding, please follow the link to take a look at three consecutive posts that put our friend Glen into utter confusion, as well as myself.
There is nothing unclear to me as long as I stay in threaded vieeeewwwweeee!
Having two different views is like sending someone to one destination via circumventional multiple routes. We could regard this as an interim period, to give hubbers time to get used to the new, improved threaded view. But they don't work alongside eachother. We don't need 2 views.
The issue is much like Paul said, for "readers" thread view is easy to go through and just read. For posters who are active in many forums and get into some rather fast moving conversations chrono view is much easier. Maybe we need a hub chat room... let's go back to the 90's when everyone just went to room of their choosing and ranted and raved about whatever they wanted
If you go to threaded view you can find my reply immediately under your post without me needing to quote you at all. Really, it works, just pleeeeze, stay in threaded view for ten minutes and you'll see how easy it is. Sorry, didn't mean to sound like I was getting my panties in a bunch.
The problem with threaded view is that it makes it too hard to converse with multiple posts from different authors. If I want to reply to 2 people in threaded view I have to make 2 posts in order to have it make sense. In chrono view I can quote them both and respond and everyone knows what I am saying.
lol Sufi you really want me to leave 10 comments? I don't know id I could do that lol sorry but I could try to visit all of them at least 5 times, rate up and leave one comment though 82 is a lot to go through phew I got my work cut out for me....
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