I'd like to feedback to my article: Most Beautiful Fish

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  1. Eric Caunca profile image94
    Eric Cauncaposted 9 months ago

    I would like feedback to my article: 12 Fishes in the Philippines - Most Beautiful in the World

    https://hubpages.com/education/12-Most- … hilippines

    1. theraggededge profile image98
      theraggededgeposted 9 months agoin reply to this

      Have you permission to reproduce the photos? You may have found them on Instagram, but that doesn't mean that person had permission to post them either. You have to cite the original source and the license.

      More info on image use here:

      https://hubpageshelp.com/content/Learni … -image-use

      1. Eric Caunca profile image94
        Eric Cauncaposted 9 months agoin reply to this

        How did you get your photos? Do you buy them? Do you ask the owner to use them? How do you contact the owner? How do you convince the owner to use her/his photo? What is the best sentence or statement to convince them to use freely their photos? How do you talk and negotiate? How to know his/her real name if she/he using a screen name and the license type? Thank you.

        1. theraggededge profile image98
          theraggededgeposted 9 months agoin reply to this

          Have you read the article I linked to?

          HubPages is a commercial site and you, potentially, are going to earn from the use of those images. Therefore, if you take them without permission you could face a demand for payment for unauthorised use.

          I use images from Pixabay, Unsplash, Wikimedia, and my own photos.

          You can usually contact a website owner through their contact button, bearing in mind that they themselves may have posted the photos illegally. What you have to do is establish what license they carry.

          https://teacherchallenge.edublogs.org/s … e-commons/

          As a content creator it is your duty to know and understand the rules.

          1. Eric Caunca profile image94
            Eric Cauncaposted 9 months agoin reply to this

            Do Pixabay, Unsplash, and Wikimedia a hundred percent free to use? Can use legally them even there's no permission from the owner?

            1. AliciaC profile image99
              AliciaCposted 9 months agoin reply to this

              Generally, yes, because the photographer has placed the images on the site for the public to use. You need to be careful with Wikipedia, though. The site sometimes shows photos from Flickr and says that they have a Creative Commons commercial license, which is suitable for use on HubPages. When I check the images on Flickr, however, I quite often find that the photographer has changed the license to "All rights reserved."

            2. theraggededge profile image98
              theraggededgeposted 9 months agoin reply to this

              It's always a good idea to credit the person who has shared their work for free. You will see their details when you download from Pixabay or Unsplash.

              As Alicia says, you have to double check Wikimedia.

              The problem with articles like your fish one is that you have built it around resources (photos) that are not yours. From now on, always check that you have those resources in place before you go to all the trouble of writing the article.

    2. Miebakagh57 profile image50
      Miebakagh57posted 9 months agoin reply to this

      I agreed with all the others.                                              You can  capture pictures of the fish if you were able to catch them, and use the images in your article.

  2. AliciaC profile image99
    AliciaCposted 9 months ago

    I was going to say the same thing as theraggededge. In addition, the first banded pipefish photo is watermarked.

  3. Eric Caunca profile image94
    Eric Cauncaposted 9 months ago

    Okay. Thank you all for your feedback. I have learned from you. I will unpublished all of my works because all photos that I use to them have no permission. I hope I will be a great author like you and give also feedback and advice for the future new Hubpages authors. God bless and good night. Salamat!

  4. Eric Caunca profile image94
    Eric Cauncaposted 9 months ago

    1. What if I have already sent an article at the owlocation? One of my articles has been already moved to that site. I am unable to edit it, photos on that article also have no permission to use from the owner.

    2. How to know which photos are free at Wikimedia? How to determine if the photos are from flickers and other sites?

    3. How to identify the real owner of the photos at Wikimedia? I have seen photos with the same images at the sites, but they are uploaded by different people.

    1. theraggededge profile image98
      theraggededgeposted 9 months agoin reply to this

      Of course you can edit it.

      Images on Wikimedia have details of their license. Just click on them and you should see it. The accreditation will be there.

      On Flickr, you can choose to filter the search results by license. Or you can use Compfight. Just type in a subject you are looking for, then tick the filter box on the left. Be careful of the very top and bottom images - they are paid for.

    2. DrMark1961 profile image98
      DrMark1961posted 9 months agoin reply to this

      Are you saying that an article you wrote with images like this has already been moved to Owlcation? That is very surprising, as HP editors would not usually move an article like that. It can happen, as we are all human, but normally they would not even move it to a network site.

      1. Eric Caunca profile image94
        Eric Cauncaposted 9 months agoin reply to this

        Yes, in fact, I think the editor viewed the article thrice.
        1. When I submitted it to the owlocation, it has been moved to the site.
        2. When I tried to add a link, however, the editor rejected it but I think he has seen it because he inboxed me.
        3. When I edited something, the HP editors approved it, he inboxed me again.

        Don't worry it's just a single article and I will unpublished it. I want my articles to be legal and have no issues

        1. DrMark1961 profile image98
          DrMark1961posted 9 months agoin reply to this

          Yes,I just looked at it. I think the person that edited that was not on top of things.
          If you are getting traffic I would not recommend unpublishing yet. HP may ask you to chage the images down the road though

  5. Eric Caunca profile image94
    Eric Cauncaposted 9 months ago

    I have contacted a person who owns a Facebook page, the page is all about the mythical creatures from the Philippines. I have viewed all of the photos on the page, and it seems like he owns them, because the styles he used is the same. Then, I have contacted and asked the page's owner to sketch me a creature. He replied to me with what I've asked for. However, I saw the sketch on Google, he just added colors. In your opinion, does he really own the sketch?

    1. theraggededge profile image98
      theraggededgeposted 9 months agoin reply to this

      Eric, I have no idea.

      You have to write about topics that you can easily find legal photos for... or take the photos/draw images yourself.

      Unless you are a professional photographer or know one, it's best to stay away from photographic topics because you are going to keep having this problem. Have you thought about looking for a professional wildlife photographer in your locality? I did an article on my local area once and found some stunning photos on Flickr - I emailed the guy and he was very happy to let me use them for free.

  6. Beth Eaglescliffe profile image99
    Beth Eaglescliffeposted 9 months ago

    @Eric
    No, this article has not been moved to Owlcation. It is still on HubPages. (Or if it was moved to Owlcation, it is now back on HubPages.)

    Don't unpublish it. As DrMark says, if you are getting some traffic from search engines then it's worth hanging on. What did the HP editor inbox you about? Did he give you the reason why the article could not remain on (or be moved to) Owlcation?

    1. DrMark1961 profile image98
      DrMark1961posted 9 months agoin reply to this

      We were talking about his first article, which can be seen on his profile page. (It has a lot of nice images but no sources.) It is still on Owlcation.

      1. Beth Eaglescliffe profile image99
        Beth Eaglescliffeposted 9 months agoin reply to this

        Ah, I see. I though you were referring to the 12 Most Beautiful Fish in the Philippines article.

  7. Eric Caunca profile image94
    Eric Cauncaposted 9 months ago

    These are their emails to me, the 1st and 3rd email. I have already deleted thier 2nd email that tells rejection when I added a link to the article.

    https://hubstatic.com/15192158_f1024.jpg

    It is clear that the article is on owlocation

    https://hubstatic.com/15192160.jpg

    1. Beth Eaglescliffe profile image99
      Beth Eaglescliffeposted 9 months agoin reply to this

      Sorry Eric, I got confused. I thought the comments in this thread related to your fish article, but I can see now that they were talking about your insect article. Please ignore my earlier post.

      1. Eric Caunca profile image94
        Eric Cauncaposted 9 months agoin reply to this

        No problem.

    2. Miebakagh57 profile image50
      Miebakagh57posted 9 months agoin reply to this

      I recalled making comments on the '10  Most Beautiful Fishes.'  Not on insects.

      1. Eric Caunca profile image94
        Eric Cauncaposted 9 months agoin reply to this

        The Fish article is still on Hubpages, however, the insect's article has moved to the owlocation. The photos in the insect's art. are uncited and have no permission to use, that's my problem.

        1. theraggededge profile image98
          theraggededgeposted 9 months agoin reply to this

          Eric, you can edit it and change the photos. Look what it says in the third email you got, "We recommend that authors update and improve their articles..."

          1. Miebakagh57 profile image50
            Miebakagh57posted 9 months agoin reply to this

            Not just once. Until the article is featured. Or you unpublish it.

            1. theraggededge profile image98
              theraggededgeposted 9 months agoin reply to this

              Miebakagh - the article in question is on Owlcation. I don't understand what you mean.

              Articles on the network sites, or on HubPages, can be edited at any time. The only time you can't edit is after they have been submitted to a network site and are caught in the editorial process.

              1. Eric Caunca profile image94
                Eric Cauncaposted 9 months agoin reply to this

                I have an article entitled "Top 10 Most Beautiful Insects in the World", the article has been submitted and moved to the owlocation. The photos on that article are not cited and have no permission to use. I and Miebagkagh are not talking to the "12 Fishes..." article, we are referring to the "Top 10 Insects", and I'm unable to edit it.
                We are baffled and perplexed how does that happen.

                https://owlcation.com/stem/Most-Stunnin … ul-Insects

                1. theraggededge profile image98
                  theraggededgeposted 9 months agoin reply to this

                  Go to your account page: https://hubpages.com/my/hubs/stats

                  Look for the insect article. Next to it you will see 'view on HubPages'. Click that link. Click on Edit at the top of the page.

              2. Miebakagh57 profile image50
                Miebakagh57posted 9 months agoin reply to this

                Bev, eric said he still had the fish article on hubpages. I refer to that, not the insects story that is move to a niche site. Thanks.

                1. theraggededge profile image98
                  theraggededgeposted 9 months agoin reply to this

                  I know, but we are talking about editing the insect article.

                  This is what Eric said:

                  "The Fish article is still on Hubpages, however, the insect's article has moved to the owlocation. The photos in the insect's art. are uncited and have no permission to use, that's my problem."

                  Click on Chronological at the top of the page and you will be able to read the thread in order.

                  1. Miebakagh57 profile image50
                    Miebakagh57posted 9 months agoin reply to this

                    Bev, I'm not interested in the insect article nor the phote. I was a little confused as my post about 6 hours ago implies.

                  2. Miebakagh57 profile image50
                    Miebakagh57posted 9 months agoin reply to this

                    Bev, I'm not interested about the inseet article, nor the photo. My post 6 hours ago implies that. Thanks again.

  8. Eric Caunca profile image94
    Eric Cauncaposted 9 months ago

    I notice that you do not put the URL of your photo sources, just the domain or name of the websites. Can I do it? ....or I'm just unable to see them?

  9. Eric Caunca profile image94
    Eric Cauncaposted 9 months ago

    What is "2.0" at “CC BY-ND 2.0?” at license type?

  10. Eric Caunca profile image94
    Eric Cauncaposted 9 months ago

    Can I use sketches/ photos with descriptions or written words on it just like this?


    https://hubstatic.com/15192402.jpg

    1. theraggededge profile image98
      theraggededgeposted 9 months agoin reply to this

      Exactly the same rules apply, Eric.

      If it's yours - yes.
      If you have permission to use the whole image - yes.
      If it has a Creative Commons commercial use license - yes.
      If it is in the Public Domain - yes.

      If none of those apply - no.

      1. Eric Caunca profile image94
        Eric Cauncaposted 9 months agoin reply to this

        Thank you, he permitted me to use it.

  11. Eric Caunca profile image94
    Eric Cauncaposted 9 months ago

    Most of the owners of the photos that I used in the PH fish article permitted me to use their photos. All I need to do is citing.

    However, some of them don't want to mention their names in the article. They just want to put the name of their Instagram account instead of their real name. Can I substitute the owner's name to their account?

  12. Eric Caunca profile image94
    Eric Cauncaposted 9 months ago

    1. How to determine the license type of a photo without details?
    2. In which license type should photos from Instagram (with permission to use) belong, is it in Creative Commons? Thank you.

    1. AliciaC profile image99
      AliciaCposted 9 months agoin reply to this

      The creator of a photo is the person who must assign a license to the photograph. The person using the image can't do this.

      I sometimes use photos that my sister took. I write her name as the source and then write "used with permission" in brackets (but without the quotation marks) after her name. I don't mention a license because she hasn't chosen one. You could do the same with the Instagram photos after writing the name of the photographer or their account according to their wishes.

      The emails in which the Instagram users told you that they took the photos and in which they gave you permission to use the images are important. You should make sure that you keep them.

  13. Eric Caunca profile image94
    Eric Cauncaposted 9 months ago

    What to do if photos on Wikimedia have no owner's name? Those pictures are what I need on Fish article.

    1. theraggededge profile image98
      theraggededgeposted 9 months agoin reply to this

      Which photo is it? Just tell me the name of it.

      1. Eric Caunca profile image94
        Eric Cauncaposted 9 months agoin reply to this

        There are some photos from Wikimedia don't have the owner's name, just the license type, they have incomplete information. I would like to delete those unpermitted photos from my Fish article and change it to the photos from Wikimedia, however, they have no author's name.

        1. theraggededge profile image98
          theraggededgeposted 9 months agoin reply to this

          The license is all you need. As long as it is one of the permitted licenses, you'll be fine.

          Images have to have **one** of the following:

          The correct license.
          Permission from the owner.

          If it has a correct license and a URL you can link to (where the license is cited), you can use it.

  14. Eric Caunca profile image94
    Eric Cauncaposted 9 months ago

    https://hubstatic.com/15196928.jpg

    just like this

  15. theraggededge profile image98
    theraggededgeposted 9 months ago

    All you need to do is caption the photo, add the license, link back to the original wiki image.

    1. Eric Caunca profile image94
      Eric Cauncaposted 9 months agoin reply to this

      Thank you :-)

      1. AliciaC profile image99
        AliciaCposted 9 months agoin reply to this

        It looks like you're using a mobile device. The photographer's name shows up on my iPad and my Windows laptop. Rickard Zerpe took the photo. If you have access to a tablet or a computer, it might be helpful to use it when you want to find photo sources.

        1. Eric Caunca profile image94
          Eric Cauncaposted 9 months agoin reply to this

          Yes, I am using a mobile. I left my laptop in the apartment where I stay. As a teacher, it has lots of files and records of the school, I thought if I would bring it, children at my parent's house would delete or break it. And also, it is in another city and no one is allowed to go to another city, due to quarantine. I never thought that I will use it, and discover Hubpages because my parents have no internet connection at their house. I am only connecting to the wifi of their neighbor that's why I have access to the internet.

          1. AliciaC profile image99
            AliciaCposted 9 months agoin reply to this

            That must be difficult. It's good that you do have Internet access, though.`

            1. Miebakagh57 profile image50
              Miebakagh57posted 9 months agoin reply to this

              It is much welcomed to have free access to the internet.

              1. AliciaC profile image99
                AliciaCposted 9 months agoin reply to this

                Yes, it is. I always appreciate the free Internet access in my community.

                1. Eric Caunca profile image94
                  Eric Cauncaposted 9 months agoin reply to this

                  Yes, it's free, however, the internet speed is very slow, their house is 10 meters away. :-D:- D

                  Next month, I will go to install my own internet connection at my parent's house. I am unable to teach this year, due to the virus. There are more than 50,000 teachers in the Philippines, including me, who can't teach this year. We will wait until June next year, that's why we are looking for home-based jobs to earn.

                  1. AliciaC profile image99
                    AliciaCposted 9 months agoin reply to this

                    Good luck, Eric. This is a difficult time for many people.

  16. Eric Caunca profile image94
    Eric Cauncaposted 8 months ago

    I'd to feedback if my fish article is already Okay. Thank you.

    https://hubpages.com/education/12-Most- … hilippines

  17. theraggededge profile image98
    theraggededgeposted 8 months ago

    Hey Eric, it's looking great!

    Some slight edits:

    Remove the thumbnail image on the Elegant Firefish. There's only one image so the thumbnail is unnecessary.

    I'm starting at the bottom and working upwards.

    "It is known to its pure love." Should be 'for its pure love'.

    "This kind of pipefish reminds me of the beautiful African equines" should be 'equine' singular.

    Write numbers under ten in full. "It can change its color to 5 coloration to mimic other species" would be better as 'It is capable of five color changes to mimic other species.'

    "gymnasts ribbon" missing apostrophe, 'gymnast's ribbon'

    That's about all I can manage now. I think you could italicise the scientific names of the fish.

    You worked really hard on this one despite all the setbacks.

 
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