How to Improve a Math Hub?

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  1. eugbug profile image95
    eugbugposted 22 months ago

    Is there anything I can do to improve this to increase traffic? It gets on average 4 views per day, and about 10 a few years ago. Maybe there's just too much competition in this area. … Logarithms

    It used to have the title "An Introduction to Logarithms, Bases and Exponents", but that didn't improve traffic.

    1. tsmog profile image83
      tsmogposted 22 months agoin reply to this

      As far as a title change goes I'll toss in change it to 'Understanding what Logarithms, Bases, and Exponents are'. But, I would list them in the order they appear in your article. Maybe you already did that.

  2. Stephen Tomkinson profile image91
    Stephen Tomkinsonposted 22 months ago

    I'm hopeless at math and I assume that this article is aimed at people who are not as ignorant as I am. However, I wonder if you might start by telling us why logs are used and then what they are before going into more detail.
    Your title might then be "A Simple Guide to..."

  3. Misbah786 profile image84
    Misbah786posted 22 months ago

    I just googled for 'Logarithms, Bases, and Exponents.' Your article appeared on the 1st Page of google for me.

    Maybe change the title to something like: "How to solve..... ? (With Examples)"

    I am no math expert, but just a suggestion smile

    Stay blessed, and keep smiling!

  4. PaulGoodman67 profile image95
    PaulGoodman67posted 22 months ago

    Yes, there's too much competition, I think, and a lot of it looks to be of a decent quality.

    Plus it was only getting 10 views/day at its peak and it's chasing low value keyword/phrase(s).

    I would say focus on something with more promise.

  5. revmjm profile image86
    revmjmposted 22 months ago

    There might be a lot of competition, but there are several things you can do. First of all, update the article. A few minor changes will make a big difference. Either add a photo, change a photo, or remove a photo. Secondly, promote your own article instead of relying solely on search engines. Post links to your articles on your personal Facebook pages and post to groups just for hubbers. Third, feel free to post links to my website that I designed:

  6. EricDockett profile image95
    EricDockettposted 22 months ago

    I am terrible at math. What you have written is far beyond my skill level. Your article seems very well done, but when I looked at I felt like I was staring into the sun. So, any advice I have here may not make sense.

    Using autocomplete to understand how people ask about your topic, I come up with titles like

    "What Are Logarithms In Math?"

    "What Are Logarithms Used for In Math?"  (Does you article answer that question? I am the last person who would know.)

    "What Are Logarithms and How Are They Evaluated?" (Is this is the same topic?)

    It seems to me Logarithms is the main topic here. I don't understand if bases and exponents are attached specifically to logarithms or if they can be separated out. In other words, would someone ask about them without asking about Logarithms?

    If they are extraneous I would keep them out of the title. If not, maybe something like

    "What are Logarithms, Bases and Exponents Used for In Math?"

    There also seems to be a contingent of students who, like I was in high school, aren't convinced they are ever going to need to know that stuff ever again. They are asking questions like:

    "What Are Logarithms Used for in the Real World?"

    You can also use "People Also Ask" to fine-tine your headers if possible.

    And, if you don't already, try plugging your keywords into Answer the Public to get a better idea about how people ask about the topic.

    I don't know if any of that is helpful, but good luck. Like I said, you article is very well done. It would be great to find a way to get some eyeballs on it.

  7. eugbug profile image95
    eugbugposted 22 months ago

    OK, thanks all. I'll try and absorb all the suggestions and see what changes I can make.

  8. Glenn Stok profile image97
    Glenn Stokposted 22 months ago


    Did you check your view duration? Whenever I have a problem with an article, I examine the stats both in HubPages and Google Analytics.

    If I see three or fewer stars for view duration, I know I’m losing readers too soon. So I review the article to determine why readers and not staying.

    In some cases, I see that I need to remove unnecessary content near the beginning and get right to the guts the title suggests. Quickly delivering on the promise is what keeps readers engaged.

    In other cases, I discover my title is not attracting the correct audience that would find the content useful. An incorrect audience will click away, and a low view duration will show that.

    When that happens, Google's algorithm will respond as if the article is poor quality, when instead, it just didn’t deliver on the title quick enough or attracted the wrong audience.

    I do a lot of updating based on that research of my stats.

    Looking over your article, I see you did an excellent job providing detailed information with exercises to help readers check their understanding of the material.  That is something students search for online. But your title doesn’t suggest that. So I think changing your title will be beneficial.

    A suggestion is “Lesson Exercises on Logarithms, Bases, and Exponents.” That title might match more search queries from people that will read through your entire article. Hence, improving its stats and appearing more often in the SERPs for the audeince you want.

    1. eugbug profile image95
      eugbugposted 22 months agoin reply to this

      Thanks Glenn, I'll try that.

  9. PaulGoodman67 profile image95
    PaulGoodman67posted 22 months ago

    I realize that I'm a lone voice and some of the advice others have said for fixing is good, Glenn especially, however, I do think that it's always important to consider whether editing is going to be effective, in terms of views and earnings.

    I always remember what Paul E said on here about focusing on traffic for the hubs that are already doing well or reasonably. It's much easier to increase views and earnings from them.

    It was invaluable advice, in my experience.

    Psychologically, it's easy to think: this hub is doing badly and has always done badly, so I need to spend lots of time fixing it. But that is often a mistake, because it's a bad use of resources.

    The problem with keywords related to logarithms is really that you need 100+ daily views to earn anything much, and even then it will likely just be a few cents.

    You could potentially earn more by adding an extra twenty or thirty daily views on one of your DIY articles that's already doing reasonably well, where there isn't necessarily the same degree of competition and the keywords are more valuable.

    Anyway, up to you... smile

  10. AliciaC profile image90
    AliciaCposted 22 months ago

    Eugene has created an excellent article. I looked for the article using two Internet browsers and a variety of search terms. Sometimes Eugene’s article was on the first page, and sometimes it wasn’t. Even when it was, there were a lot of distractions related to math on the first part of the page to lure readers away before they read about his article. Another point that I noted was that one or both of two math specialist sites always appeared on the page (before Eugene’s article if it was present), no matter what search term I used.

    I agree with others that changing the title of the article (and sharing it on suitable sites if Eugene hasn’t already done so) could be helpful, but I’m not sure about the extent of this help. Good luck, whatever you decide to do, Eugene.

  11. eugbug profile image95
    eugbugposted 22 months ago

    I changed the title to Glenn's suggestion. As Paul says, the keywords are low value and there's too much competition, so it's probably not worth spending too much time improving it.
    I haven't spent much time looking at keyword value, I tend to just concentrate on writing "helpful content" as Google likes to call it.


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