I would like feedback on my article: Advantages of implementing ISO 90

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   Avik Chakravortyposted 11 months ago

   https://hubpages.com/hub/advantages-of- … on?hubview

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      Kenna McHughposted 11 months agoin reply to this

      You have some excellent advice here. Follow it. Work one paragraph at a time. Ask yourself, what am I trying to say. Then, write it.

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         Avik Chakravortyposted 11 months agoin reply to this

         Thank you for your kind advice. I agree with your suggestion. Do you think the article is 'featured article' quality?

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            Kenna McHughposted 11 months agoin reply to this

            Not yet.

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               Avik Chakravortyposted 11 months agoin reply to this

               Indeed, I noticed that even though traffic is rising indicated by the red up arrow with a score of 55, the article isn't featured. I wonder why as I don't know all the nuances of HB moderation review. Please throw some light as it were if you will.

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         Avik Chakravortyposted 11 months agoin reply to this

         As I am no expert on any of the article topics I have written thus far on hubpages, I have researched the topics before writing on them.

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         Avik Chakravortyposted 11 months agoin reply to this

         Pls have a look at the article now after I modified it a bit.

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            Kenna McHughposted 11 months agoin reply to this

            What are you trying to say here: "Broadly, ISO 9001 accredited QMS certification is an international regulatory benchmark that when adopted stipulates organizations globally to improve their quality handling overall continuously."

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               Gregory DeVictorposted 11 months agoin reply to this

               Kenna, you are absolutely correct here.
               
               Avik, I wish that you would give all of us a clear, complete, and concise definition of "ISO 9001 accredited QMS certification." In addition, this clarification should be done at the very beginning of the article so that potential readers know exactly what is being discussed.
               
               Further, this clarification must be presented in language that the average person will understand. Remember, not everyone who is reading your article is an MBA student.
               
               Personally, I do not understand what you are talking about.

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         Avik Chakravortyposted 11 months agoin reply to this

         How does it look now after several edits. Eagerly awaiting your invaluable feedback.

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            theraggededgeposted 11 months agoin reply to this

            Here's how I would cut out the wordiness in your introduction. Can you see how I got rid of unnecessary words?
            
            Original:
            
            Broadly, ISO 9001 accredited QMS certification is an international regulatory benchmark that when adopted stipulates organizations globally to continuously improve the execution of their streamlined and structured operational quality parameters benefiting customers and stakeholders alike.
            
            It leads to a competitive advantage by boosting efficiency with cost-cutting in productivity successfully and getting fresh customers in an ever-evolving marketplace.
            
            Streamlined version:
            
            ISO 9001 is an accredited quality management system (QMS) certification. It is a benchmark that encourages organizations to continually improve their service quality to benefit both customers and stakeholders.
            
            The ISO 9001 certification can lead to a competitive advantage by increasing efficiency and making strategic cost-cutting decisions. It may help to attract new customers in a changing marketplace.
            
            Never use a long word when a short one will do. And never use a phrase when a single word will convey the meaning more succinctly.
            
            By the way, mention the difference between ISO 9000 and 9001 (and any other iterations).

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               Avik Chakravortyposted 11 months agoin reply to this

               Thank you very much indeed for streamlining the intro even further. I will incorporate it in the article. I noticed my score has dropped from 54 to 53. Yesterday it went up to 57 or so and yet wasn't featured. Any idea what this means?

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                  theraggededgeposted 11 months agoin reply to this

                  You're welcome. Use it as a guide to streamline the rest of the article.
                  
                  I notice, often, when people study English as a second language, they are taught that using florid sentences is a good thing. It isn't
                  
                  One tip is to list out every fact that you want to convey in one or two words. Then create a single sentence for each fact. Don't try to weave them together or you'll end up with a convoluted mish-mash. That makes it difficult to read, understand, and edit. One fact = one sentence.
                  
                  There's a marvellous book called Several Short Sentences About Writing by Verlyn Klinkenborg. It's a revelation. Here's an excerpt from the first page:
                  
                  One by one each sentence takes the stage.
                  It says the very thing it comes into existence to say.
                  Then it leaves the stage.
                  It doesn't help the next one up or the previous one down.
                  It doesn't wave to its friends in the audience.
                  Or pause to be acknowledged or applauded.
                  It doesn't talk about what it is saying.
                  It simply says its piece and leaves the stage.
                  
                  The hubberscore is a bit of a mystery, but I have noticed that it often reflects the quality of writing together with the level of activity.

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                     Avik Chakravortyposted 11 months agoin reply to this

                     I guess I was talking about the hub score as in the article score actually.

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                        theraggededgeposted 11 months agoin reply to this

                        Almost the same thing. Quality and views. It will go up because people from the forum are looking at it. So it's getting internal views.
                        
                        Your aim is to make the article attract external readers by being the answer to their search queries. That's why I said that the link 'is your competition'. You would have to rank above or just below that one to make any kind of impact. Otherwise, your words will simply fall into a void. To be honest, that's what many of us feel about our work right now.

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                           Avik Chakravortyposted 11 months agoin reply to this

                           Fyi, the status of my article is 'needs edit'. Never seen this before. Does it mean it's not published?

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                              Gregory DeVictorposted 11 months agoin reply to this

                              It looks like you have manually unpublished your article.
                              
                              Were you logged into HubPages when you got that message?
                              
                              I am getting a "404 Page does not exist" when I click on your text link.

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                                 Avik Chakravortyposted 11 months agoin reply to this

                                 No I wasn't logged in  when I got that 'needs edit' status. That's weird that you're getting "404 page does not exist" isn't it? Any idea why though?

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                                    Gregory DeVictorposted 11 months agoin reply to this

                                    I am still getting that 404 message.
                                    
                                    When I try to edit an article and I am using my phone and NOT logged into HubPages, I also get a 404 message when I click on "Author View." Once I log into HP, I get the webpage and not the error message when I click on "Author View."
                                    
                                    I hope this makes sense to you.
                                    
                                    Why not restart your phone and see what happens.

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                                       Gregory DeVictorposted 11 months agoin reply to this

                                       Make absolute sure that your article is published.

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      WriterJanisposted 11 months agoin reply to this

      Hi Avik!
      In order to have your article featured you need at least 2 pictures that are licensed for usage and properly credited. You should also have titles to each of your text sections that are Google searchable. For example, some of your titles are good, but some are way too generic such as "Involve Employees"
      I also think you should edit to get rid of all of the white space in your article.
      Good luck on your article and I hope it gets featured!

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         Avik Chakravortyposted 11 months agoin reply to this

         If you skim my portfolio you'll see all my articles have one photo and one video and yet they are featured. Somewhere I read on another thread that in-line text on images aren't allowed on HP but you'll notice all my article images have in-line text and even so are featured.

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         Avik Chakravortyposted 11 months agoin reply to this

         Fyi, my article didn't make it to featured article status though traffic is rising with a score of 55. Can you help me nail it?

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            theraggededgeposted 11 months agoin reply to this

            Have you taken action regarding the advice I gave you earlier?
            
            If you have trouble shortening your sentences and making it less wordy, then try the free app, Hemingway.
            
            Also you must explain clearly what the certification is. Clarity is your goal in any business writing.
            
            This is your intro. It's one jumbled unintelligible sentence. Break it into three.
            
            Broadly, ISO 9001 accredited QMS certification is an international regulatory benchmark mandating organizations globally to continuously improve their quality handling overall with a streamlined structure and order fulfilling both customer and stakeholder requirements efficiently leading to a competitive advantage comprising of productivity boost, getting new customers and cost-cutting successfully in an ever-evolving marketplace.
            
            And is it really 'mandatory'?

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         Avik Chakravortyposted 11 months agoin reply to this

         Please have a look at the modified article and share your feedback/comments.

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   theraggededgeposted 11 months ago

   https://discover.hubpages.com/business/ … ganization
   
   It's a word salad. I have no idea what you're trying to say. Who is your intended readership? Will they be able to understand the article? There are so many over-long sentences that my poor brain gave up... and I still don't know what an ISO-9000 is.
   
   And did you use AI for parts of it?

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   Avik Chakravortyposted 11 months ago

   Nope, no AI. Ran it on zerogpt. 100% human written.

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   Avik Chakravortyposted 11 months ago

   Intended audience is for the uninitiated mainly.

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      theraggededgeposted 11 months agoin reply to this

      Well, it won't be helpful to the 'uninitiated' if they can't understand it.
      
      Begin by explaining what the certification is in clear and simple terms. Then what businesses would benefit from having it and why.
      
      Go through each long sentence and split them into shorter ones. Get rid of any repetitions and jargon.
      
      It's a good idea to always remember that fewer and shorter words are more impressive than long-winded and convoluted sentences.
      
      I skimmed a few of your other articles and they also suffer from a similar overload. It prevents your articles from being moved to a network site and keeps your hubberscore down.

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         Avik Chakravortyposted 11 months agoin reply to this

         This article has been under the scanner for the past couple of days as in I have been fine-tuning it to get it featured. I agree the article is a bit wordy but I tried streamlining my intro to capture the short attention span of my intended audience.

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         Avik Chakravortyposted 11 months agoin reply to this

         may be that explains my low hubber score.

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   Avik Chakravortyposted 11 months ago

   intended audience is the uninitiated mainly-correction. Inadvertently overlooked my sentence structure.

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   theraggededgeposted 11 months ago

   This is your competition:  https://www.investopedia.com/terms/i/iso-9000.asp
   
   Note the sentence lengths, the article structure, and the clear way that facts are delivered. Obviously you can't copy it but that is the standard you should aim for. The intro consists of three short sentences.
   
   Edit: Two of your subheadings have question marks but they aren't questions.
   
   Remove the title above the first image which also requires accreditation.
   
   Make sure your images are legal to use.
   
   Read the style guide in the Learning Center. 
   
   You have a lot of work to do to knock it into shape but you will learn a lot if you do it properly.  Good luck.

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      Avik Chakravortyposted 11 months agoin reply to this

      I thought when you start a sentence with why, how, when, where, is; there should be a ? mark?

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         theraggededgeposted 11 months agoin reply to this

         No, because you are not asking a question, you are offering an explanation...
         
         Why the Earth is a sphere.
         
         How I conquered diabetes.
         
         Where you can find the best ideas.
         
         What you will discover in this article.

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            Avik Chakravortyposted 11 months agoin reply to this

            okay, right, I get it now. Thanks much for pointing it out. how dumb of me.

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               theraggededgeposted 11 months agoin reply to this

               It's not dumb. If you don't know it, you don't know it. You can now fix it and you learned another thing

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            Avik Chakravortyposted 11 months agoin reply to this

            As you can see I have incorporated the changes based on your suggestions. In your view is the article 'featured article' quality in its present form?

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               theraggededgeposted 11 months agoin reply to this

               No, because you haven't edited the text to shorten sentences and add clarity.
               
               I don't understand why you don't get how important it is. It's not creative writing, it's the presentation of facts in a clear and straightforward way. There are no points for extra words and flowery language.
               
               Use Hemingway. It will help you fix the issues.
               
               And the use of the word 'mandating' is problematical. The certification is not mandatory.
               
               There is still a lot of work to do. Fixing a couple of subheadings isn't going to do it.
               
               By the way, you have omitted to detail the costs of this certification.

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   Avik Chakravortyposted 11 months ago

   Thanks for sharing the link to investopedia article. My comments: The article body does not do justice to the title and I say this because nothing much on benefits. Rather digress to
   comparisons. That's my take though may not get upvotes or likes.

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   Gregory DeVictorposted 11 months ago

   Just to clarify, I am getting a 404 when I click on the "Discover" text link as well as the "HubPages" text link. I noticed at the beginning of this thread that there are two different text links for your article.

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      Avik Chakravortyposted 11 months agoin reply to this

      At my end I can see the 'author view' link only on top of this thread. What does it all mean? Looking for answers.

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         Gregory DeVictorposted 11 months agoin reply to this

         Go to "My Account" on HubPages.
         
         You will then see the "Statistics" page which has a list of your articles.
         
         Underneath the title of an article, there is a "Page View" button.
         
         Click on that button.
         
         You will be taken to a screen that has your article.
         
         At the top left, you will see an "Edit" button.
         
         Click on that button.
         
         If your article is currently UNPUBLISHED, you will have the option at the top of the page to PUBLISH it.
         
         On the other hand, if your article is currently PUBLISHED, you will have the option at the top of the page to UNPUBLISH it.
         
         I hope this makes sense.
         
         As I suggested above, please make sure that your article is published.
         
         The 404 message is telling us that your article is not published right now.

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   Avik Chakravortyposted 11 months ago

   I think HP did something at their backend for reasons only they can tell. I did not unpublish as there was an ongoing QAP for 48 hours and then the status changed to 'needs edit' and I am scratching my head and clueless.

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      Gregory DeVictorposted 11 months agoin reply to this

      Well, I just checked on both of your text links, and I am still receiving that 404 error message on both.
      
      Perhaps you should contact HP directly and explain the issue.
      
      I am clueless at this point.
      
      Just so you know, QA can take much longer on a weekend. I have learned that lesson the hard way.

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         Avik Chakravortyposted 11 months agoin reply to this

         I wish I had someone from outside of the forum externally to check and see
         whether there are any issues at all. Just to be sure.

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            Gregory DeVictorposted 11 months agoin reply to this

            I checked the links on both my Chromebook and my phone, and get the same results. I live in western Pennsylvania (USA), and, who knows, my geographical location could be a factor.
            
            Let's see what happens when someone from another part of the world clicks on the links.
            
            You can contact HP at team@hubpages.com

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               Avik Chakravortyposted 11 months agoin reply to this

               I have a sis in the UK. I'll ask her to click on the link and let's see if she too gets the 404 error.

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               Avik Chakravortyposted 11 months agoin reply to this

               Fyi, just now I too got a 404 error on the article's discover page.

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                  theraggededgeposted 11 months agoin reply to this

                  I'm in the UK. I can see the article on Discover.

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                     Avik Chakravortyposted 11 months agoin reply to this

                     So what's the issue here as there seems no light at the end of the tunnel as in unraveling this mystery for Greg in the US and I in India as we are both getting 404 errors. Greg alluded to the possibility of the article getting unpublished somehow after QAP as the 404 error indicates.

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               Avik Chakravortyposted 11 months agoin reply to this

               Fyi, theraggededge can view the article from the UK on discover page.

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                  Avik Chakravortyposted 11 months agoin reply to this

                  "This article needs to be revised before it can be published." There you have it. Just noticed on top of author view. No wonder the status showed 'needs edit'.

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                     Avik Chakravortyposted 11 months agoin reply to this

                     Now its looking good with another QAP underway. Actually  I had overlooked the alert on top of author view that said "This article needs to be revised before it can be published." Now it all makes sense.

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                        theraggededgeposted 11 months agoin reply to this

                        Have you credited the source of that first image? The editors are very keen on the accreditation of images.
                        
                        Even if it is yours, write 'Image author's own' in the caption area.

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                           Avik Chakravortyposted 10 months agoin reply to this

                           Yes, i have

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                           Avik Chakravortyposted 10 months agoin reply to this

                           If hub traffic rises or falls during an ongoing QAP, does it have any effect at all on the hub being marked as either 'featured' or 'not featured-quality'?

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    Gregory DeVictorposted 11 months ago

    I can now see both versions of your article, Discover and HubPages, from the USA.

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       Avik Chakravortyposted 11 months agoin reply to this

       I know. Its fixed. It was an oversight on my part that led to the confusion. Sorry about that.

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          Avik Chakravortyposted 10 months agoin reply to this

          Is there any minimum word limit for articles on HP?

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             theraggededgeposted 10 months agoin reply to this

             You should be aiming for at least 1,000 words. There is no upper limit but the number of words should suit the depth of the article.

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                Avik Chakravortyposted 10 months agoin reply to this

                Why is my hubber score falling  gradually?

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                   theraggededgeposted 10 months agoin reply to this

                   You probably need to improve your writing. As per suggestions already given. Don't use bold text all over an article. Make sure your images carry an appropriate license and credit accordingly.
                   
                   Read ALL the information in the Learning Center.

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    Gregory DeVictorposted 10 months ago

    I know that Bev has been doing a terrific job of helping you with this article.
    
    However, I just noticed that your text capsule headings are not in proper APA format.
    
    In the "HubPages Writing Style Guide," there is a section entitled "Capitalization." I believe that you should read and reread the information there about capitalization, APA format, etc.
    
    Actually, it might be a good idea for you to read and reread the entire "HubPages Writing Style Guide." There is a lot of practical information there which can help you over the long-term.

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