Explanation for banning a hubber

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   Kathleen Cochranposted 3 weeks ago

   When a hubber is banned for disciplinary reasons, why won't HP tell the hubber what the violation is?
   
   How do you learn from a mistake if the mistake is not identified?
   
   I understand not revealing who cited the violation, but refusing to explain to the hubber is disingenuous at best.

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      theraggededgeposted 3 weeks agoin reply to this

      I think if someone is banned, they probably know why.
      
      They may have violated the Terms of Use... overly promotional, use of AI, copied from elsewhere, etc. And if they did any of that, then they know it

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         Kathleen Cochranposted 3 weeks agoin reply to this

         You make a good point. I also know why I've been banned a couple of times recently. A hubber who does not like to be disagreed with makes a complaint and HP doesn't question it.
         
         If they looked at this hubber's record of complaints against other hubbers, they would realize how badly she abuses the system.
         
         If they allowed the accused hubber to know what the complaint was, we could defend ourselves from the abuse.  Instead, she gets away with it.

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            theraggededgeposted 3 weeks agoin reply to this

            Ah, you mean forum bans, not banned from using the platform? In my experience, Matt doesn't suspend someone without good reason. He looks at both sides of any exchange.
            
            I didn't think there had been any 'forum spats' recently - there's not enough of us left
            
            You can email him at team@hubpages.com if you need to.
            
            Edit: I forgot about the 'other side'... the political forums do get a bit frisky.

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               Kathleen Cochranposted 3 weeks agoin reply to this

               "He looks at both sides of any exchange."
               
               There is no "both sides".

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                  DrMark1961posted 3 weeks agoin reply to this

                  There are always too sides.

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                     Kathleen Cochranposted 3 weeks agoin reply to this

                     Thank you. I wish HP would allow hubbers to address whatever issue brought on the ban. Currently, they do not.
                     
                     All they would have to do is send an email notifying you that a ban is in place and tell you the rule you broke.

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                        DrMark1961posted 3 weeks agoin reply to this

                        Totally agree. As Bev pointed out, though, we usually know what we did to cause it. I feel for those people that get banned permanently, especially those that I do not agree with but are able to bring up good points.

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      Kenna McHughposted 3 weeks agoin reply to this

      Of all the ones banned from HP that I am aware of, I have agreed with HP.

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         Kathleen Cochranposted 3 weeks agoin reply to this

         I'm not that familiar with many instances. All I'm asking for is the reason. I don't think that is too much to ask.

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            Kenna McHughposted 3 weeks agoin reply to this

            Sure, you can ask. It makes sense to me. However, HP tends to avoid giving information to writers. It's minimal and non-transparent. That is what is so frustrating with TAG. They leave a huge vacuum, empty. Writers get frustrated and end up speculating.

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               Kathleen Cochranposted 2 weeks agoin reply to this

               It is certainly not the site I joined almost exactly 15 years ago this month.

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                  Kenna McHughposted 2 weeks agoin reply to this

                  Kathleen, exactly. That is why the forums are so quiet, and quality writers are leaving or not writing for HP anymore.

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   Kathleen Cochranposted 2 weeks ago

   The forums are so quiet because a handful of bullies (full disclosure: I may qualify as one of them on a bad day) have run out too many other voices. Look at the small number of participants and the large number of words they use in almost every comment. It is not conducive to attracting other voices or promoting a healthy exchange of ideas.

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      Kenna McHughposted 2 weeks agoin reply to this

      I hear you, Kathleen. Those are the political forums that I have blocked. Ideologies are abstract and open to irrational behavior, based on meritless opinions. I never approach that arena without getting scathed.

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         Kathleen Cochranposted 2 weeks agoin reply to this

         I can't tell you how often I've sworn off. I even gave them up for Lent one year because I felt they had such a toxic effect on me.
         
         But the newspaper reporter in me gets drawn back again and again out of a basic decency impulse not to let falsehoods go unchallenged. But I don't make a dent.

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            Kenna McHughposted 2 weeks agoin reply to this

            Yes. It's frustrating. Being a PR, I see it all the time. People can put anything on the internet.

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