Mutliple people using one Hub account
Um, I've announced this on the forum. Not sure if there's more than 1 person doing it for $75, but I said I've sodl 48 of them. Even Jenny's daughter creates Hubs for people! It's not against TOS.
My customers give me their niche topic and I create the Hub for them.
I don't see how it's a bad thing...
Tiff
I don't stay in their account
I just develop unique, quality content, add images, publish, and let them take over from there.
This is especially helpful for people who can't write well (or don't have time, but want to get their ideas shared).
Sun, I'm a big fan of yours. I'll let you know results when and if I hear about them, which I'm sure I will. lol
tiff
Now that'd be really bad business if I created spammy Hubs that my customers paid for, only to get them shut down so they lost their money
I write quality content. Some I've built are on raw foods, how to write a biography, skincare tips, fitness tips...nothing "make a million dollars overnight-ish"
I promise, I only develop good Hubs for my customers.
They get 1-2 links going to their domain, and Hub pages gets quality Hubs made along with a share of the revenue the people paid to have generated!
It's a win-win for all
Wishing you all success Tiffany. A fast buck without hurting anybody is fine!
All these make me want to sell my hubs. They make around 500$ in adsense alone per month. Any takers? If you are interested I will sell them to the highest bidder.
(Well, whats stopping me in thinking along those lines if ghost hubwriting is the norm of the day! )Now see, you could sell that if they'd let you transfer Hubs. lol!
Otherwise, you'd have to sell your entire account...and start fresh.
But if you ever do decide to sell your account, I'd post it in the Warrior Forum WSO (Warrior Special Offer) section. You have to join (free) and participate for awhile, but then you're allowed to post a WSO and I know lots of people would probably want that! lol
tiff
Did you ever get that email I sent you, Tiffany?
Did you ever get mine?
No, Sally I didn't. try again! I changed my email to a gmail and it's getting through now!
tiff
Most of these people outsource their content creation. I'm adding images. It's not for the Hub money - it's for the link. They get to be positioned as an authority figure in their niche, and they get a backlink from an authority site. They get traffic to their domains, and to affiliate money.
But $75 for 1-2 hours? I wouldn't even work for that It takes me 15 minutes to write my Hub content. 20 Max. I build Hubs in under 30 total, including tagging. And same goes for my Squidoo lenses. But I charge $249 for those. People pay
The articles I write would cost them $90 to hire me, so they're getting a good deal - content, images, and set-up for just $75
tiffRight, well if the word count went up, so would the price
I write 750 words, not 1,000 and they get images, tags, sometimes youtube videos, and their links and affiliate capsules
No offense taken! To each his/her own
I'm perfectly happy with what I'm charging and they're happy to pay.
tiff
Maybe so, Zsuzsy; I woudn't be surprised
Patty writes-her-ownHi Zsyzsy!
I'll try to explain. Let's say you are a stay at home mom who wants to make money online.
You find out about severl opportunities...affiliate marketing, information products (ebooks), drop shipping companies, ebay, etc.
So you pick a niche. You choose fitness for baby boomers. You write an eBook since you know a lot about it, or you like the topic but aren't a good writer, so you hire a ghostwriter. You launch a site, to sell your eBook.
Now you need traffic. You need backlinks to help your site get found in Google and ranked higher (the more quality backlinks, the better you rate, supposedly).
But you're so busy with everything, you don't have time to create social pages like Squidoo lenses and Hub Pages, So you see an offer - $75 for a Hub that has unique (not plagiairzed) content, with up to (but no more than) 2 backlinks to your domain.
It also gives you the opportunity to earn AdSense money and Amazon sales selling more fitness and baby boomer stuff. You sell your eBook for $47 a pop (yes, and that's on the low end of eBooks, too).
So in less than 2 sales, it's paid for itself.
Your Hub gets indexed in Google FAST, thanks to Hub Pages. You start seeing Google hits, the content is valuable, so guess what? Bianca Baby Boomer who Googled fitness over 50 decides to buy from your link because what she's seen already is quality.
You make a sale. You smile
Money well spent.
This is how they're using it
Hi Zsuzsy!
I think Lisse said it right. People are using it for a business, which is OK.
But if they can't write and don't have the expertise in a subject, its not good to me. Kinda reminds me of the medical students I knew that had the nursing students take their anatomy exams for them in bygone days! I would not want them to operate on me, for sure.That's nice Lissie. Congratulations!
Well, here's best wishes to the Continuing Adventure!
I think all it really means in the TOC is that HubPages AREN'T legally responsible, actually.
The liability allocation between you and the person who pays you to write a Hub SHOULD be spelled out in the written agreement you have them sign ...
***Standing Ovation***
You took the words right out of my fog-laden brain.
tiff
Just read this whole thread and can't resist a comment. When I worked in PR I was often paid to write material for others--speeches, newspaper articles,letters and the like. Often my work appeared under someone else's byline in print, and who hasn't written letters for somebody else's signature? No surprise that much internet content is also "ghostwritten"and that people are doing it on Hubpages. No big deal. Nice thing about Hubpges is that it accommodates all kinds of writers who are here for all kinds of reasons. There's room here for all of us which is one of the things I like most. You go Tiff. I hope you make a fortune
Aww, thanks, Robie! So far so good...everyone's amazed with their Hubs. Good, valuable content, within the rules, and nice images to boot.
TiffGood for you, Tiff. Keep it up. Some may fear that what you are doing will "cheapen" Hubpages. I think the opposite is true, as you are clearly a thoughtful professional with a clear business vision and not a spammer. You've gone out of your way to become part of this community and not to abuse it. You are clearly here for the long haul and not just to make a quick buck. That's prolly part of why your clients are so happy--doing well by doing good, dontchaknow
Oh! I getcha now. No, I don't build them under my own account. I tell my customers they have to set up a temporary password for me to let me log into their account. Then once I'm finished, they change their password back!
Reason for my bad reaction was different. I don't have a problem with marketing, I am a marketer myself. However, I don't like people who lie to me and then pretend this was normal. This may be normal for them, but those are people I prefer not to have around. Surprisingly, seemingly everybody else here has a different approach to this issue, so I just stay away
Not my only issue Misha.
My biggest issue is the way it is being sold:
"Fed up of having your accounts at hubpages deleted?
Can't work out how to get the maximum amount of linkjuice and traffic to your sites from an authority site because you can't work out how the TOS works?
Let me write a hub for you. I know how to work around the rules so you don't get banned."
This is different to selling your writing skills. What it amounts to is selling links and I am not so sure it's a good idea. We shall see.
Not my only, too
I just think all the other issues could have been worked out if not for this I deem the major one
How can you be sure that she does not do things her way even publicly agreeing to you here? Granted it never can be guaranteed, but in her case the odds heavily favor the worst case scenario...Not arguing with you
Not arguing with you either
I'm just surprised with the level of help she keeps receiving from the community... people seem to like to be lied to, and this observation kinda amazes me I guess it is another point in the learning curve for all of us.
Paul - I am sure you will.
robie - Yes. We shall see.
Learning curves, gotta love 'em- TiffanyDowposted 16 years ago
0(biting tongue for the good of the community)...
So anyhoo... I just built my 19th Hub. Not one link in it but a few Amazon and eBay capsule. And the one the day before that had no links, and the day before THAT...and so on. Do some of mine have self serving links? Sure! But I will be balancing it all out.
FYI, while the forum seems to be where tempers flare, I'd like to say that 99.999% of the Hub community who reached out to me via email were very welcoming and helpful - and still are! They saw what had happened and wanted to reassure me that "not everyone's like that," so I don't feel the need to respond to the attacks.
I'll just do my thing and you do yours Wanted to make sure that other newbies don't come here reading this, feeling like it's a hostile community, because of a very few people when most are like Robie, Jenny, and Sun - just positive, welcoming people with a good attitude.
Tiff
PS as an FYI to Paul - I am going to be encouraging my customers to build non-self serving Hubs, too. Things that balance out the system. It's good branding as a person. Part of what my existing customers like is my non-IM lenses on Squidoo where they get to know "me" a little more. It's an important part of being online. Just to allay any fears that I'm encouraging a flood of self promotional Hubs.Oh, Stacie I'm not disagreeing with that. But go back a page or two. What I meant by hostile is calling someone a liar and saying that everything she's doing is most likely a worst case scenario deal IS a tad hostile, is it not?
In my world, it is...
But if that's the way discussions go 'round here, I'll happily evolve my methods to adjust accordingly.
tiff
- TiffanyDowposted 16 years ago0
Some people here think this is bad - I am not among them. In fact I'm buying text for most of my hubs myself
OK, for those who missed the beginning, it is here:
http://hubpages.com/forum/topic/4080
http://hubpages.com/forum/topic/4168
Now Tiffany,
I am not a total newbie to bulletin boards, and I took a special care not to call you a liar. I said that you lied and you insisted on your right to lie, and therefore odds of you lying in future are higher than if you haven't.
I don't want to go any further. Those two threads seem to be self-explanatory, and I already told you there all what I could.
I only can add that discussions here are usually very relaxed and polite - but be assured they can become pretty harsh if this is called for.You know, the forums here generally aren't hostile and we do manage to have pleasant discussions - and even debates. A great example is that Misha and I rarely agree, yet I believe we have managed to be fairly civil to each other. Right, Misha? Will this be one of the rare occasions where we agree on something?
Hi Sally!
I will do what I do with my Squidoo eBook. Customers get free updates for life (my life, lol). I always update my eBook and if it's not enough time for a full update, then I send out emails to my list. Like for instance, Squidoo implemented a Twitter module, so I just sent out one giant email to explain it.
So this way, the information stays current. If I let my eBook become outdated, then I'd have a hefty number of refunds Plus, my Squidoo customers, bless their hearts, email me ALL the time with questions. I answer every email myself and add it to the next version or blast out an update if it's something that needs to be shared.
And I promise, I plan to do something very special for those who help me with learning this site. I can't count how many copies of my Squidoo eBook I've given away to people who helped me. I'm not gonna hand it out to anyone who just had a problem with me, for sure. But those who assisted me, of course I give back!
Tiff
Stacie, I just saw your comment. And you are so right. My questions don't belong here either. But I just HAD to ask them.
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